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In reply to the discussion: Unless the "public option" is free or inexpensive it's snake oil.. and dangerous snake oil at that. [View all]elocs
(22,550 posts)8. The elephant in the room: "M4A will not be enacted anytime soon."
The candidates who support M4A all know that it will never be enacted soon, or maybe ever, and none of them will even discuss how it realistically can become law.
Pretending that M4A would happen anytime soon is dishonest and holds out false hope for those who need affordable healthcare NOW.
So is it Medicare for All or nothing or is there a Plan B, imperfect as it may be, that has a real chance to be passed?
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Unless the "public option" is free or inexpensive it's snake oil.. and dangerous snake oil at that. [View all]
Goodheart
Aug 2019
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Medicare is affordable for every Canadian, every Australian, every Brit, every Swede, ....
Goodheart
Aug 2019
#6
funny isn't it that urbanists are called elite when they are by far far far the majority...
pangaia
Aug 2019
#32
Saying that is a cop out. We need to talk in realistic terms. We need all the facts and truthfully
wasupaloopa
Aug 2019
#54
Fixing the damage done to the ACA is going to be the way to get the most people healthcare
ehrnst
Aug 2019
#29
re: "And what you said in your first sentence already exists under the ACA"
thesquanderer
Aug 2019
#12
Biden's plan works exactly the way the ACA works, why is anyone confused/surprised?
thesquanderer
Aug 2019
#15
re: "He didn't speak to what the View profile premium will be whatsoever."
thesquanderer
Aug 2019
#36
That has some consequences. There have to be limits to who gets that public option,
ehrnst
Aug 2019
#37
re: "unless premiums are charged on a sliding scale, charging more for those who make more"
thesquanderer
Aug 2019
#44
First, no, the ACA subsidies aren't just a sliding scale - it involves more than income.
ehrnst
Aug 2019
#47
TheBrits and others enacted govt funded hlth care post WWII. We missed the boat
Thekaspervote
Aug 2019
#10
"If you want to cut your own personal health care costs, take better care of yourself"
Act_of_Reparation
Aug 2019
#17
There will be no private insurance option if the public option is open to "anyone who wants it"
ehrnst
Aug 2019
#38
+1, We already have a single payer system and a lot of VAs work pretty good from what I've heard...
uponit7771
Aug 2019
#64
Fighting over the details of their healthcare proposals won't help them beat Donald Trump
Gothmog
Aug 2019
#43
Nothing is free! Somebody has to pay. We need to make it vey clear that there will be no free
wasupaloopa
Aug 2019
#52
Despite the fact that I'm on Medicare, last year's out-of-pocket medical expenses totaled $9,000.
greatauntoftriplets
Aug 2019
#59