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peggysue2

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15. It appears Kamala has opened Pandora's box with the . . .
Thu Aug 1, 2019, 10:05 PM
Aug 2019

'let's reach back into history routine,' rather than focusing on the present and future. I was rather surprised at Harris' weak defense of her own healthcare proposal. And yes, I agree she did sound unprepared for Gabbard's attack. I think most people were surprised at the brutal nature of that attack line. But now that it's out there, Harris will be required to address it.

I find a lot of this sad because I like a lot of these candidates, good solid Democrats who have worked their butts off for their constituencies. These primaries always turn into meat grinders and that's unfortunate because we need to have our eventual nominee sound enough to run in the General. I know the general argument is: better to be bruised and battered during the primary than waiting for the GE. But there's a limit. One of those limits is the critical comments about President Obama's Administration simply to score points against Joe Biden. That verges on suicidal. I kept hearing complaints about 'framing things like the Republicans.' The biggest 'frame' of all is painting the Obama Administration as the worst evah.

In any case, not being able to 'watch' the debates doesn't seem to have been all that bad.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
Enjoyable read, and a very good analysis -- thank you! I'm so sorry about your having to sit highplainsdem Aug 2019 #1
I think we created conversation for our neighbors peggysue2 Aug 2019 #2
Lol. Imagine the responses if you told them. Hortensis Aug 2019 #6
Yeah.. even though I "watched it" (heavy on the multi-tasking), your impressions are consistent hlthe2b Aug 2019 #3
The criticism of the Obama years surprised me as well peggysue2 Aug 2019 #7
"I was a bit startled the some DUer's were making reference to Joe Biden's appearance..." demmiblue Aug 2019 #4
Soooooo . . . peggysue2 Aug 2019 #10
Spot on. I thought Joe was measured, articulate & strong onetexan Aug 2019 #30
De nada. demmiblue Aug 2019 #39
Really? peggysue2 Aug 2019 #40
Exactly, PeggySue! Cha Aug 2019 #53
Agree. Slimy post that demmiblue reposted, creepy threat. Hortensis Aug 2019 #69
Whoever they are, they're an asshole. BannonsLiver Aug 2019 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author bigtree Aug 2019 #34
You Got That Absolutely, right! Cha Aug 2019 #46
Mr. Liver wins the day. lapucelle Aug 2019 #50
Love me some Cha Aug 2019 #56
Bazinga! George II Aug 2019 #55
This message was self-deleted by its author bigtree Aug 2019 #19
it's a disgusting opinion and should be posted all over DU ! stonecutter357 Aug 2019 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author bigtree Aug 2019 #33
Damn Straight! Cha Aug 2019 #47
Wow. Who could be so petty that he/she cared about how many face jobs one (might have) had.... George II Aug 2019 #54
Very good analysis leftieNanner Aug 2019 #5
Will she be the new Jill Stein? peggysue2 Aug 2019 #13
Could you let me know what it is about Gabbard that is so toxic onetexan Aug 2019 #31
I think her stance on Syria and . . . peggysue2 Aug 2019 #41
thanks. Agree, those positions play into RW hands onetexan Aug 2019 #48
Journalistic research in Tulsi's home state. From my bookmarks, this link... Hekate Aug 2019 #49
Mahalo, Hekate! Cha Aug 2019 #58
She also refused to debate any candidates running for her seat. sheshe2 Aug 2019 #51
Wow, and she managed to win onetexan Aug 2019 #52
She's my Rep, onetexan.. and Cha Aug 2019 #59
Whoa, seems she's pro-Russian onetexan Aug 2019 #62
So do I! Cha Aug 2019 #64
Mahalo, she.. for pointing that out.. here's some Cha Aug 2019 #60
Thanks for your add, Cha. sheshe2 Aug 2019 #61
Yours was an important one, Cha Aug 2019 #63
It's coming out. sheshe2 Aug 2019 #65
I have no idea.. don't Cha Aug 2019 #66
;) sheshe2 Aug 2019 #67
great.. Cha Aug 2019 #68
She would if she could... Hekate Aug 2019 #45
Beautifully summed up! Catamount Aug 2019 #8
Thanks, Catamount peggysue2 Aug 2019 #14
I completely agree and had a similar reaction to the debate last night Pachamama Aug 2019 #9
It appears Kamala has opened Pandora's box with the . . . peggysue2 Aug 2019 #15
When you attack True Blue American Aug 2019 #27
Exactly! peggysue2 Aug 2019 #42
Mahalo for your perspective, Pachamama! Cha Aug 2019 #57
Thanks. That is an interesting view that mostly expands on mine Hortensis Aug 2019 #11
Not suggesting he should offer her anything peggysue2 Aug 2019 #16
Exactly the same here. We're all odd ducks, Hortensis Aug 2019 #24
LOL!! peggysue2 Aug 2019 #43
Brilliant, PeggySue! Cha Aug 2019 #17
Thanks, girlfriend! peggysue2 Aug 2019 #18
Oh I see.. 36 hours.. that sounds Cha Aug 2019 #20
The criticism of the Obama years is just plain stupid peggysue2 Aug 2019 #21
I read that 97% approval, too.. Cha Aug 2019 #22
Interesting, insightful, and fun read. I really like a puppy who shares my take on things. emmaverybo Aug 2019 #23
I find little to disagree with here. But I'll say this... wyldwolf Aug 2019 #25
When debating Trump, Biden has so much material to use - the economy Trump inherited; Russia; Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #35
Biden stayed cool Lulu KC Aug 2019 #36
+1000 Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #38
lol.. Good post, Lulu KC Cha Aug 2019 #71
+1! Cha Aug 2019 #74
Thank you for that perspective. True Blue American Aug 2019 #26
Bennet's someone I could support also. I'd prefer farther Hortensis Aug 2019 #70
Nice analysis Beringia Aug 2019 #28
K&R stonecutter357 Aug 2019 #32
Something I haven't seen mentioned here: world wide wally Aug 2019 #37
Thank you! Very refreshing! Hekate Aug 2019 #44
KICK! Cha Aug 2019 #72
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