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sheshe2

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105. "Go easy on me, boy" is not?

Thu Aug 1, 2019, 11:50 PM

Aug 2019

pnwmom
24. I know he didn't.

But why is "Go easy on me, kid" to a black woman fine but "Go easy on me, boy" is not? The only difference is that the word "kid" is gender neutral.

Yet that was never said. You inserted it as a what if. "Boy"? Never said.

Let it go. Just Stop!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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So the consensus seems to be: It was fine for Biden to say "Go easy on me, kid" to Harris. [View all] pnwmom Aug 2019 OP

this isn't helping Harris. things like this just result in more support for Biden JI7 Aug 2019 #1

Huh ? left-of-center2012 Aug 2019 #2

+1 Gidney N Cloyd Aug 2019 #6

It was during their initial greeting before the debate began, and they exchanged this, too: George II Aug 2019 #3

Kid and boy are not the same treestar Aug 2019 #4

nailed it.n/t cynatnite Aug 2019 #8

The word "kid" wasn't in common usage in that era. It began when I was a "kid" pnwmom Aug 2019 #12

There were at least 14 pro baseball players born before 1900 nicknamed "Kid." nt Lucid Dreamer Aug 2019 #38

Perfect. It's baseball, and the moniker was a form of endearment. A young player... EarnestPutz Aug 2019 #71

How many 54 year olds were called "kid"? How many 54 year old male Senators pnwmom Aug 2019 #113

I'm on social security and my 90 year old neighbor calls me "kid". If you respond ... EarnestPutz Aug 2019 #184

This isn't in a professional context. It's one old guy joking to another old guy. pnwmom Aug 2019 #187

My 94-year-old neighbor calls the 60-something gay couple across the street "the boys," SMC22307 Aug 2019 #193

Nonsense jberryhill Aug 2019 #74

were you born before the movie Casablanca then? nt msongs Aug 2019 #87

It was commonly used a lot earlier than that Clash City Rocker Aug 2019 #153

I'm sorry kcr Aug 2019 #112

My mom had 4 kids, all Boomers. Our neighborhood was full of kids. We played in the street... Hekate Aug 2019 #175

He should have handled it with "kid" gloves! George II Aug 2019 #16

Love it!!!! MyOwnPeace Aug 2019 #39

When I was in my late 60s I worked with a woman several years older than me.... George II Aug 2019 #54

When I was in my 60s I worked with a lot of people younger than me. They called me "old timer". Midnight Writer Aug 2019 #73

... lapucelle Aug 2019 #72

No kidding. sheshe2 Aug 2019 #99

This is much a-doo doo abqtommy Aug 2019 #5

Seriously, I can't believe this is something that would upset anyone... cynatnite Aug 2019 #7

It's silly season 15 bleepin' months before the election. SMC22307 Aug 2019 #11

Agree completely.... cynatnite Aug 2019 #58

We're doing nothing but handing fodder to Drumpf to use against us in the GE. SMC22307 Aug 2019 #194

It doesn't. They are reaching. GulfCoast66 Aug 2019 #95

Yes, of course, there's a huge difference between calling Booker kid vs. boy. thesquanderer Aug 2019 #9

What's the difference? Both are terms for a young juvenile. pnwmom Aug 2019 #15

"Boy" Trenzalore Aug 2019 #20

"Kid" was a slang term not in use in the slave era. pnwmom Aug 2019 #28

I'm a white male in my 40s Trenzalore Aug 2019 #36

Is anyone calling you a kid NOW? Kamala is 54 years old, at the peak of her professional career. pnwmom Aug 2019 #43

Actually yes Trenzalore Aug 2019 #49

You are talking about a personal setting, not a professional setting. pnwmom Aug 2019 #53

If it is by a 70 year old who was Vice President of the United States Trenzalore Aug 2019 #56

That makes it LESS acceptable, not more. But gaffes like this aren't unusual for him. n/t pnwmom Aug 2019 #60

If you ask me if making this an issue makes me more or less likely to vote for Harris Trenzalore Aug 2019 #63

If Biden is going to be our nominee, I want him to have fewer gaffes. pnwmom Aug 2019 #65

The President of the United States is on tape talking about sexually assaulting women Trenzalore Aug 2019 #69

Historically he IS gaffe-prone FBaggins Aug 2019 #151

She is also a generation younger than Biden. "Kid" is a generational term, Blue_true Aug 2019 #62

Boy has an additional meaning when addressing a black man. (nt) thesquanderer Aug 2019 #32

Kid has an additional meaning when addressing a black woman. n/t pnwmom Aug 2019 #33

I've never heard that. thesquanderer Aug 2019 #44

Kid is just the gender-neutral term for child. Slave women were addressed as "girl" pnwmom Aug 2019 #51

I'm not a big Biden fan, but this strikes me as nonsense. thesquanderer Aug 2019 #59

So would it have been fine for him to say, "Go easy on me, kid" to Booker? pnwmom Aug 2019 #61

It would probably be fine. thesquanderer Aug 2019 #82

100% agree ... well said/thought through (nt) mr_lebowski Aug 2019 #180

No. It is generational. Blue_true Aug 2019 #57

So it would have been fine to say "Go easy on me, kid" to Booker? pnwmom Aug 2019 #67

The two have not been used the same way. Blue_true Aug 2019 #77

I rolled my eyes at this article. We all know what he meant. ecstatic Aug 2019 #10

Exactly. This mountain out of molehill stuff is lame. Move on. It's an old expression, is all. ancianita Aug 2019 #26

Unrec. Tiresome fake outrage from the Twitterverse. emulatorloo Aug 2019 #13

The 'sexist' is the author of the Newsweek piece left-of-center2012 Aug 2019 #14

Jesus Christ. OilemFirchen Aug 2019 #17

He didn't say "boy" to Booker Trenzalore Aug 2019 #18

I know he didn't. pnwmom Aug 2019 #24

Because there isn't a history of southern white men putting down African American women Trenzalore Aug 2019 #35

The word "kid" didn't become slang till much later. But slave women were called "girl" in the same pnwmom Aug 2019 #37

My friend who is 60 refers to me as young feller Trenzalore Aug 2019 #41

He's your friend, not your professional peer, deliberately calling you a kid pnwmom Aug 2019 #45

I think your timeline may be off. lapucelle Aug 2019 #90

A word applied to "skillful young thieves and pugilists" in the 1800's would have been an insult. nt pnwmom Aug 2019 #94

Yes, but this is not the 1800's, and your timeline is still off. lapucelle Aug 2019 #98

Are you arguing that it would have been okay for Biden pnwmom Aug 2019 #101

The expressions are very different. lapucelle Aug 2019 #111

"Go easy on me, boy" is not? sheshe2 Aug 2019 #105

I didn't say it was. I said the word "kid" and "boy" are both ways of calling an adult pnwmom Aug 2019 #106

You said it was a "racist" call out to Harris. sheshe2 Aug 2019 #108

I didn't say that. I said it was a gaffe. n/t pnwmom Aug 2019 #109

Alrighty then. sheshe2 Aug 2019 #110

Not even. Get real. tirebiter Aug 2019 #183

Here's looking at you, kid left-of-center2012 Aug 2019 #19

... George II Aug 2019 #22

When I heard it, I thought it was a stupid thing to say, but not disrespectful. Hoyt Aug 2019 #21

Certainly less disrespectful than her calling him "Senator" Biden. George II Aug 2019 #23

I didn't see that as disrespectful either. Not much on protocol. Hoyt Aug 2019 #25

True left-of-center2012 Aug 2019 #50

Excellent points, of course! I wouldn't Cha Aug 2019 #185

Why is this objectionable? Gothmog Aug 2019 #27

Why is "boy" objectionable? Because it was comparing grown adults to a child. pnwmom Aug 2019 #30

He didn't call her boy. Drunken Irishman Aug 2019 #80

This line of attack is really weak Gothmog Aug 2019 #122

Are you serious? Gothmog Aug 2019 #121

Yes, I am. Boy and kid mean the same thing except boy refers to a male, specifically, pnwmom Aug 2019 #133

If you want to worry about this, go ahead. I like dealing with real world issues Gothmog Aug 2019 #142

Ikr.. fretting Cha Aug 2019 #182

Yeah, it's a term of endearment with friends and family really. OhZone Aug 2019 #29

Among family it's fine. It's probably also fine if they call you, "old man," right? pnwmom Aug 2019 #31

IRL Biden and Harris are collegial, and Harris and Beau were close. See this article emulatorloo Aug 2019 #46

It really depends on context - OhZone Aug 2019 #66

The setting was professional and public, not in the living room with friends. pnwmom Aug 2019 #70

It's more like a couple of friends - OhZone Aug 2019 #83

It was on the stage before a formal debate, in front of a open mic. pnwmom Aug 2019 #96

yes... TrunKated Aug 2019 #163

He's a old kidder. ha OhZone Aug 2019 #172

What a load of utter nonsense. Scurrilous Aug 2019 #34

It's diminishing etc etc but in the way of pre-game trash talk MaryMagdaline Aug 2019 #40

I think it was a damn good way to break the ice. It was not pre game 'trash talk'. EYE ROLL. nt UniteFightBack Aug 2019 #47

That's right, that's the consensus. NEXT. nt UniteFightBack Aug 2019 #42

I think this is more about ''Bidenisms'' than anything else. YOHABLO Aug 2019 #48

Completely different. Blue_true Aug 2019 #52

It was the best line of the night 4now Aug 2019 #55

Oh the recycled faux outrage appears again... Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #64

This whole thing is just silly. Tipperary Aug 2019 #120

So Harris deliberately misrepresenting Biden's position on busing and implying he's a racist is okay Princetonian Aug 2019 #68

this flamingdem Aug 2019 #107

When I heard it, I laughed. It is an older person joke, not meant to offend. Chemisse Aug 2019 #75

I agree with your post. metroins Aug 2019 #114

Exactly. I don't know what era or how old kacekwl Aug 2019 #146

Mahalo, Chemisse.. well said! Cha Aug 2019 #181

Considering the tension between them after Harris attacked Biden earlier, what Biden said highplainsdem Aug 2019 #76

I called it an 'ice breaker. nt UniteFightBack Aug 2019 #85

Exactly. And as I pointed out in another thread, they've known each other for highplainsdem Aug 2019 #92

Are you Kidding me? sheshe2 Aug 2019 #78

From 3 Kamala supporters, she.. Cha Aug 2019 #186

Thanks, Cha! sheshe2 Aug 2019 #192

" it seemed Kamala Harris was upset-like someone said something to her." MadDAsHell Aug 2019 #79

Biden should step out of the competition for POTUS PufPuf23 Aug 2019 #81

That's your opinion.. Joe Biden Cha Aug 2019 #84

I understand this and that is their/your choice. PufPuf23 Aug 2019 #88

Yeah, We Want Biden. Cha Aug 2019 #93

He's polling at the top among Dem primary voters, so of course he should "drop out" emulatorloo Aug 2019 #103

Biden is leading current polls but we have yet to experience primary season. PufPuf23 Aug 2019 #170

Hummm.... polls don't seem to indicate what you are professing. Any links you want to share? Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #158

Never said anything about polls. PufPuf23 Aug 2019 #169

"Just trying to get all this straight." LOL. 58Sunliner Aug 2019 #86

"here's looking at you kid" brooklynite Aug 2019 #89

Your linked articles highlight nothing to me but flailing attempts to incite outrage Devil Child Aug 2019 #91

As if we need further proof Biden held his own! GulfCoast66 Aug 2019 #97

I just pulled a muscle. NT SouthernProgressive Aug 2019 #100

Made up issue Vegas Roller Aug 2019 #102

T H I S...I S...N O T...A...S T O R Y ! Thunderbeast Aug 2019 #104

So this isn't from the Onion ? OnDoutside Aug 2019 #115

I was wondering the same thing Gothmog Aug 2019 #124

Humphrey Bogart would never survive in this era ;) OnDoutside Aug 2019 #125

Nor want to. Sneederbunk Aug 2019 #159

My dad called every one kid, me, my mom, his friends. He said of my fifty year old date, a college emmaverybo Aug 2019 #116

He called her "kid" with cameras rolling and mic on, while the public introductions were being made pnwmom Aug 2019 #117

No problem with his age, which he can not hide. Why not then not act it? Yes, his use of kid shows emmaverybo Aug 2019 #139

This argument True Dough Aug 2019 #118

Fake outrage part 2! Hav Aug 2019 #119

Correct - the general consensus is that the icebreaker was fine. Look at the Twitter comments, Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #123

Wow awesomerwb1 Aug 2019 #126

Oh, FFS, give it a rest! Aren't there bigger fish to fry? The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2019 #127

Bigger fish? grumpyduck Aug 2019 #129

Exactly. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2019 #130

I think it's a symptom of the anger and frustration grumpyduck Aug 2019 #131

you are aware that 'fish' ... wyldwolf Aug 2019 #135

Oh, no, I had no idea! (Really!) The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2019 #136

I can't wait till this election is done and overwith. democratisphere Aug 2019 #128

It's NOT okay loyalsister Aug 2019 #132

See post #137 and 148 Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #157

and everyone outside of the "progressive" bubble continues to laugh at this. wyldwolf Aug 2019 #134

Did it bother you that most (perhaps all) of the male candidates... OilemFirchen Aug 2019 #137

Noisy fucking crickets. OilemFirchen Aug 2019 #148

Biden's condescension wasn't even remotely ok, and it is sad to see DU'ers here brush it off Tarc Aug 2019 #138

Nice try connecting it to the Trump excuse for sexual assault Hav Aug 2019 #140

The excuse-making continues... Tarc Aug 2019 #141

You really think you've got a point? Hav Aug 2019 #144

Mansplaining ftw... Tarc Aug 2019 #165

Yes, just like I thought. Hav Aug 2019 #171

Harris later said it was nothing. Your candidate is not outraged..why are you?!! Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #155

No sense in kicking a man who can't even recite a website while he's down Tarc Aug 2019 #166

Well isuppose being in fourth place and all,Harris needs all the help she can Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #173

Was the consensus fine when Biden was grandfatherly handsy and huggy with women? elocs Aug 2019 #143

Yes, it was fine. And because of determinedly hostile attitudes. Hortensis Aug 2019 #145

I can't imagine Sanders saying "Go easy on me kid" elocs Aug 2019 #147

That's a strange argument Hav Aug 2019 #149

I can't either...because none of the people are his friends! GulfCoast66 Aug 2019 #168

None of the other presidential candidates gained any ground on Joe Biden Gothmog Aug 2019 #150

If fact Today's Harris/hill poll shows Biden with a 2 to 1 lead over sanders Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #152

Joe is doing well Gothmog Aug 2019 #154

Can't imagine caring Loki Liesmith Aug 2019 #156

Yes it was perfectly OK. comradebillyboy Aug 2019 #160

Not if you are out Cha Aug 2019 #179

Some like to make mountains out of mole hills Cha. comradebillyboy Aug 2019 #191

We need to parse every word Joe says ya know.. No consideration for: LakeArenal Aug 2019 #161

I was hoping for Biden and Harris to be on the same ticket but he blew it. In light of this, it Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #162

lol.. Cha Aug 2019 #178

I took it as sort of "athletic" as in boxing or baseball. gulliver Aug 2019 #164

This is getting ridiculous & taken way too seriously onetexan Aug 2019 #167

1) Kamala was the one who took an unexpected jab at Joe. 2) You can just see the twinkle in his eye Hekate Aug 2019 #174

Some Biden detractors... Cha Aug 2019 #177

I said at the outset I'd have his back: he's still Uncle Joe. What shocks me is who is participating Hekate Aug 2019 #195

The problem for Harris was Tulsi Gabbard tirebiter Aug 2019 #176

Oh geesh Raine Aug 2019 #188

Yes, that is the consensus. But we no doubt need at least another 200 posts to deal with it. But... TreasonousBastard Aug 2019 #189

lol Cha Aug 2019 #190