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pnwmom

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117. He called her "kid" with cameras rolling and mic on, while the public introductions were being made

Fri Aug 2, 2019, 03:20 AM

Aug 2019

immediately prior to the debate.

It was inappropriate in a professional setting, and all he succeeded in doing was emphasizing his age.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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So the consensus seems to be: It was fine for Biden to say "Go easy on me, kid" to Harris. [View all] pnwmom Aug 2019 OP

this isn't helping Harris. things like this just result in more support for Biden JI7 Aug 2019 #1

Huh ? left-of-center2012 Aug 2019 #2

+1 Gidney N Cloyd Aug 2019 #6

It was during their initial greeting before the debate began, and they exchanged this, too: George II Aug 2019 #3

Kid and boy are not the same treestar Aug 2019 #4

nailed it.n/t cynatnite Aug 2019 #8

The word "kid" wasn't in common usage in that era. It began when I was a "kid" pnwmom Aug 2019 #12

There were at least 14 pro baseball players born before 1900 nicknamed "Kid." nt Lucid Dreamer Aug 2019 #38

Perfect. It's baseball, and the moniker was a form of endearment. A young player... EarnestPutz Aug 2019 #71

How many 54 year olds were called "kid"? How many 54 year old male Senators pnwmom Aug 2019 #113

I'm on social security and my 90 year old neighbor calls me "kid". If you respond ... EarnestPutz Aug 2019 #184

This isn't in a professional context. It's one old guy joking to another old guy. pnwmom Aug 2019 #187

My 94-year-old neighbor calls the 60-something gay couple across the street "the boys," SMC22307 Aug 2019 #193

Nonsense jberryhill Aug 2019 #74

were you born before the movie Casablanca then? nt msongs Aug 2019 #87

It was commonly used a lot earlier than that Clash City Rocker Aug 2019 #153

I'm sorry kcr Aug 2019 #112

My mom had 4 kids, all Boomers. Our neighborhood was full of kids. We played in the street... Hekate Aug 2019 #175

He should have handled it with "kid" gloves! George II Aug 2019 #16

Love it!!!! MyOwnPeace Aug 2019 #39

When I was in my late 60s I worked with a woman several years older than me.... George II Aug 2019 #54

When I was in my 60s I worked with a lot of people younger than me. They called me "old timer". Midnight Writer Aug 2019 #73

... lapucelle Aug 2019 #72

No kidding. sheshe2 Aug 2019 #99

This is much a-doo doo abqtommy Aug 2019 #5

Seriously, I can't believe this is something that would upset anyone... cynatnite Aug 2019 #7

It's silly season 15 bleepin' months before the election. SMC22307 Aug 2019 #11

Agree completely.... cynatnite Aug 2019 #58

We're doing nothing but handing fodder to Drumpf to use against us in the GE. SMC22307 Aug 2019 #194

It doesn't. They are reaching. GulfCoast66 Aug 2019 #95

Yes, of course, there's a huge difference between calling Booker kid vs. boy. thesquanderer Aug 2019 #9

What's the difference? Both are terms for a young juvenile. pnwmom Aug 2019 #15

"Boy" Trenzalore Aug 2019 #20

"Kid" was a slang term not in use in the slave era. pnwmom Aug 2019 #28

I'm a white male in my 40s Trenzalore Aug 2019 #36

Is anyone calling you a kid NOW? Kamala is 54 years old, at the peak of her professional career. pnwmom Aug 2019 #43

Actually yes Trenzalore Aug 2019 #49

You are talking about a personal setting, not a professional setting. pnwmom Aug 2019 #53

If it is by a 70 year old who was Vice President of the United States Trenzalore Aug 2019 #56

That makes it LESS acceptable, not more. But gaffes like this aren't unusual for him. n/t pnwmom Aug 2019 #60

If you ask me if making this an issue makes me more or less likely to vote for Harris Trenzalore Aug 2019 #63

If Biden is going to be our nominee, I want him to have fewer gaffes. pnwmom Aug 2019 #65

The President of the United States is on tape talking about sexually assaulting women Trenzalore Aug 2019 #69

Historically he IS gaffe-prone FBaggins Aug 2019 #151

She is also a generation younger than Biden. "Kid" is a generational term, Blue_true Aug 2019 #62

Boy has an additional meaning when addressing a black man. (nt) thesquanderer Aug 2019 #32

Kid has an additional meaning when addressing a black woman. n/t pnwmom Aug 2019 #33

I've never heard that. thesquanderer Aug 2019 #44

Kid is just the gender-neutral term for child. Slave women were addressed as "girl" pnwmom Aug 2019 #51

I'm not a big Biden fan, but this strikes me as nonsense. thesquanderer Aug 2019 #59

So would it have been fine for him to say, "Go easy on me, kid" to Booker? pnwmom Aug 2019 #61

It would probably be fine. thesquanderer Aug 2019 #82

100% agree ... well said/thought through (nt) mr_lebowski Aug 2019 #180

No. It is generational. Blue_true Aug 2019 #57

So it would have been fine to say "Go easy on me, kid" to Booker? pnwmom Aug 2019 #67

The two have not been used the same way. Blue_true Aug 2019 #77

I rolled my eyes at this article. We all know what he meant. ecstatic Aug 2019 #10

Exactly. This mountain out of molehill stuff is lame. Move on. It's an old expression, is all. ancianita Aug 2019 #26

Unrec. Tiresome fake outrage from the Twitterverse. emulatorloo Aug 2019 #13

The 'sexist' is the author of the Newsweek piece left-of-center2012 Aug 2019 #14

Jesus Christ. OilemFirchen Aug 2019 #17

He didn't say "boy" to Booker Trenzalore Aug 2019 #18

I know he didn't. pnwmom Aug 2019 #24

Because there isn't a history of southern white men putting down African American women Trenzalore Aug 2019 #35

The word "kid" didn't become slang till much later. But slave women were called "girl" in the same pnwmom Aug 2019 #37

My friend who is 60 refers to me as young feller Trenzalore Aug 2019 #41

He's your friend, not your professional peer, deliberately calling you a kid pnwmom Aug 2019 #45

I think your timeline may be off. lapucelle Aug 2019 #90

A word applied to "skillful young thieves and pugilists" in the 1800's would have been an insult. nt pnwmom Aug 2019 #94

Yes, but this is not the 1800's, and your timeline is still off. lapucelle Aug 2019 #98

Are you arguing that it would have been okay for Biden pnwmom Aug 2019 #101

The expressions are very different. lapucelle Aug 2019 #111

"Go easy on me, boy" is not? sheshe2 Aug 2019 #105

I didn't say it was. I said the word "kid" and "boy" are both ways of calling an adult pnwmom Aug 2019 #106

You said it was a "racist" call out to Harris. sheshe2 Aug 2019 #108

I didn't say that. I said it was a gaffe. n/t pnwmom Aug 2019 #109

Alrighty then. sheshe2 Aug 2019 #110

Not even. Get real. tirebiter Aug 2019 #183

Here's looking at you, kid left-of-center2012 Aug 2019 #19

... George II Aug 2019 #22

When I heard it, I thought it was a stupid thing to say, but not disrespectful. Hoyt Aug 2019 #21

Certainly less disrespectful than her calling him "Senator" Biden. George II Aug 2019 #23

I didn't see that as disrespectful either. Not much on protocol. Hoyt Aug 2019 #25

True left-of-center2012 Aug 2019 #50

Excellent points, of course! I wouldn't Cha Aug 2019 #185

Why is this objectionable? Gothmog Aug 2019 #27

Why is "boy" objectionable? Because it was comparing grown adults to a child. pnwmom Aug 2019 #30

He didn't call her boy. Drunken Irishman Aug 2019 #80

This line of attack is really weak Gothmog Aug 2019 #122

Are you serious? Gothmog Aug 2019 #121

Yes, I am. Boy and kid mean the same thing except boy refers to a male, specifically, pnwmom Aug 2019 #133

If you want to worry about this, go ahead. I like dealing with real world issues Gothmog Aug 2019 #142

Ikr.. fretting Cha Aug 2019 #182

Yeah, it's a term of endearment with friends and family really. OhZone Aug 2019 #29

Among family it's fine. It's probably also fine if they call you, "old man," right? pnwmom Aug 2019 #31

IRL Biden and Harris are collegial, and Harris and Beau were close. See this article emulatorloo Aug 2019 #46

It really depends on context - OhZone Aug 2019 #66

The setting was professional and public, not in the living room with friends. pnwmom Aug 2019 #70

It's more like a couple of friends - OhZone Aug 2019 #83

It was on the stage before a formal debate, in front of a open mic. pnwmom Aug 2019 #96

yes... TrunKated Aug 2019 #163

He's a old kidder. ha OhZone Aug 2019 #172

What a load of utter nonsense. Scurrilous Aug 2019 #34

It's diminishing etc etc but in the way of pre-game trash talk MaryMagdaline Aug 2019 #40

I think it was a damn good way to break the ice. It was not pre game 'trash talk'. EYE ROLL. nt UniteFightBack Aug 2019 #47

That's right, that's the consensus. NEXT. nt UniteFightBack Aug 2019 #42

I think this is more about ''Bidenisms'' than anything else. YOHABLO Aug 2019 #48

Completely different. Blue_true Aug 2019 #52

It was the best line of the night 4now Aug 2019 #55

Oh the recycled faux outrage appears again... Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #64

This whole thing is just silly. Tipperary Aug 2019 #120

So Harris deliberately misrepresenting Biden's position on busing and implying he's a racist is okay Princetonian Aug 2019 #68

this flamingdem Aug 2019 #107

When I heard it, I laughed. It is an older person joke, not meant to offend. Chemisse Aug 2019 #75

I agree with your post. metroins Aug 2019 #114

Exactly. I don't know what era or how old kacekwl Aug 2019 #146

Mahalo, Chemisse.. well said! Cha Aug 2019 #181

Considering the tension between them after Harris attacked Biden earlier, what Biden said highplainsdem Aug 2019 #76

I called it an 'ice breaker. nt UniteFightBack Aug 2019 #85

Exactly. And as I pointed out in another thread, they've known each other for highplainsdem Aug 2019 #92

Are you Kidding me? sheshe2 Aug 2019 #78

From 3 Kamala supporters, she.. Cha Aug 2019 #186

Thanks, Cha! sheshe2 Aug 2019 #192

" it seemed Kamala Harris was upset-like someone said something to her." MadDAsHell Aug 2019 #79

Biden should step out of the competition for POTUS PufPuf23 Aug 2019 #81

That's your opinion.. Joe Biden Cha Aug 2019 #84

I understand this and that is their/your choice. PufPuf23 Aug 2019 #88

Yeah, We Want Biden. Cha Aug 2019 #93

He's polling at the top among Dem primary voters, so of course he should "drop out" emulatorloo Aug 2019 #103

Biden is leading current polls but we have yet to experience primary season. PufPuf23 Aug 2019 #170

Hummm.... polls don't seem to indicate what you are professing. Any links you want to share? Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #158

Never said anything about polls. PufPuf23 Aug 2019 #169

"Just trying to get all this straight." LOL. 58Sunliner Aug 2019 #86

"here's looking at you kid" brooklynite Aug 2019 #89

Your linked articles highlight nothing to me but flailing attempts to incite outrage Devil Child Aug 2019 #91

As if we need further proof Biden held his own! GulfCoast66 Aug 2019 #97

I just pulled a muscle. NT SouthernProgressive Aug 2019 #100

Made up issue Vegas Roller Aug 2019 #102

T H I S...I S...N O T...A...S T O R Y ! Thunderbeast Aug 2019 #104

So this isn't from the Onion ? OnDoutside Aug 2019 #115

I was wondering the same thing Gothmog Aug 2019 #124

Humphrey Bogart would never survive in this era ;) OnDoutside Aug 2019 #125

Nor want to. Sneederbunk Aug 2019 #159

My dad called every one kid, me, my mom, his friends. He said of my fifty year old date, a college emmaverybo Aug 2019 #116

He called her "kid" with cameras rolling and mic on, while the public introductions were being made pnwmom Aug 2019 #117

No problem with his age, which he can not hide. Why not then not act it? Yes, his use of kid shows emmaverybo Aug 2019 #139

This argument True Dough Aug 2019 #118

Fake outrage part 2! Hav Aug 2019 #119

Correct - the general consensus is that the icebreaker was fine. Look at the Twitter comments, Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #123

Wow awesomerwb1 Aug 2019 #126

Oh, FFS, give it a rest! Aren't there bigger fish to fry? The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2019 #127

Bigger fish? grumpyduck Aug 2019 #129

Exactly. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2019 #130

I think it's a symptom of the anger and frustration grumpyduck Aug 2019 #131

you are aware that 'fish' ... wyldwolf Aug 2019 #135

Oh, no, I had no idea! (Really!) The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2019 #136

I can't wait till this election is done and overwith. democratisphere Aug 2019 #128

It's NOT okay loyalsister Aug 2019 #132

See post #137 and 148 Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #157

and everyone outside of the "progressive" bubble continues to laugh at this. wyldwolf Aug 2019 #134

Did it bother you that most (perhaps all) of the male candidates... OilemFirchen Aug 2019 #137

Noisy fucking crickets. OilemFirchen Aug 2019 #148

Biden's condescension wasn't even remotely ok, and it is sad to see DU'ers here brush it off Tarc Aug 2019 #138

Nice try connecting it to the Trump excuse for sexual assault Hav Aug 2019 #140

The excuse-making continues... Tarc Aug 2019 #141

You really think you've got a point? Hav Aug 2019 #144

Mansplaining ftw... Tarc Aug 2019 #165

Yes, just like I thought. Hav Aug 2019 #171

Harris later said it was nothing. Your candidate is not outraged..why are you?!! Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #155

No sense in kicking a man who can't even recite a website while he's down Tarc Aug 2019 #166

Well isuppose being in fourth place and all,Harris needs all the help she can Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #173

Was the consensus fine when Biden was grandfatherly handsy and huggy with women? elocs Aug 2019 #143

Yes, it was fine. And because of determinedly hostile attitudes. Hortensis Aug 2019 #145

I can't imagine Sanders saying "Go easy on me kid" elocs Aug 2019 #147

That's a strange argument Hav Aug 2019 #149

I can't either...because none of the people are his friends! GulfCoast66 Aug 2019 #168

None of the other presidential candidates gained any ground on Joe Biden Gothmog Aug 2019 #150

If fact Today's Harris/hill poll shows Biden with a 2 to 1 lead over sanders Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #152

Joe is doing well Gothmog Aug 2019 #154

Can't imagine caring Loki Liesmith Aug 2019 #156

Yes it was perfectly OK. comradebillyboy Aug 2019 #160

Not if you are out Cha Aug 2019 #179

Some like to make mountains out of mole hills Cha. comradebillyboy Aug 2019 #191

We need to parse every word Joe says ya know.. No consideration for: LakeArenal Aug 2019 #161

I was hoping for Biden and Harris to be on the same ticket but he blew it. In light of this, it Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #162

lol.. Cha Aug 2019 #178

I took it as sort of "athletic" as in boxing or baseball. gulliver Aug 2019 #164

This is getting ridiculous & taken way too seriously onetexan Aug 2019 #167

1) Kamala was the one who took an unexpected jab at Joe. 2) You can just see the twinkle in his eye Hekate Aug 2019 #174

Some Biden detractors... Cha Aug 2019 #177

I said at the outset I'd have his back: he's still Uncle Joe. What shocks me is who is participating Hekate Aug 2019 #195

The problem for Harris was Tulsi Gabbard tirebiter Aug 2019 #176

Oh geesh Raine Aug 2019 #188

Yes, that is the consensus. But we no doubt need at least another 200 posts to deal with it. But... TreasonousBastard Aug 2019 #189

lol Cha Aug 2019 #190