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BeyondGeography

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26. You should worry more about the Joe Biden Enthusiasm Gap

Fri Aug 2, 2019, 08:03 AM

Aug 2019

We all should if he’s the nominee:

...there’s an enthusiasm gap for Biden among some primary voters, the poll found. A majority of those surveyed, 56%, said Warren would fight “a great deal” for people like them, and 54% said the same of Sanders. Only 38% described Biden that way.

When asked who has been the most “passionate” so far, Warren and Sanders each had 28%, while Biden had just 14%. Warren, who has touted her policy proposals, was seen as the most specific candidate, with 42%, while Harris was seen as the strongest with 32%.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-07-21/biden-leads-in-new-cbs-democratic-poll-but-faces-enthusiasm-gap

From last night, here’s what enthusiasm looks like:

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If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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WAPO: Why go to the trouble of running for president to promote ideas that can't work? [View all] wyldwolf Aug 2019 OP

I despise the stench of defeatism in the morning Cirque du So-What Aug 2019 #1

a good example of what the piece states. wyldwolf Aug 2019 #2

Well! I guess we should all just give up; resistance is futile, yunno Cirque du So-What Aug 2019 #3

yeah, when it comes to trying to score points at Obama's expense, you should give up wyldwolf Aug 2019 #4

That wasn't an attack on Obama when she said it. Obama's even saying blm Aug 2019 #41

Ding! Ding! Ding! True Dough Aug 2019 #52

Ding ding ding... That was always Obama's goal. LakeArenal Aug 2019 #57

Indeed. The public option was designed to get us to single payer. emulatorloo Aug 2019 #64

The ReThugs have thrown up every obstacle at their disposal True Dough Aug 2019 #65

+1 emulatorloo Aug 2019 #66

It is a mistake to attack President Obama's record Gothmog Aug 2019 #77

And Warren did not, yet some here are saying she did blm Aug 2019 #79

Yes she did-warren's plan repeals and replaces the Affordable Care Act Gothmog Aug 2019 #80

She did not frame it as an attack on Obama. And Obama, himself, sees single payer as blm Aug 2019 #81

It was an attack on the Affordable Care Act Gothmog Aug 2019 #82

Obama is on board with moving towards single-payer. Is he attacking himself? blm Aug 2019 #84

Resistance for the sake of resistance is not very smart NYMinute Aug 2019 #5

... and for the sake of "bragging rights" or demonstrations of "purity" is not very smart either. NurseJackie Aug 2019 #31

I prefer 'mendacity' and facts over the impossible dream as detailed by some candidates who will Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #50

How will any of these plans be adopted in the real world? Gothmog Aug 2019 #76

What defeatism? Loki Liesmith Aug 2019 #102

Well said... BUT... FBaggins Aug 2019 #6

the lines have become increasingly blurred in the age of 24 hour news and the internet wyldwolf Aug 2019 #7

Can we concentrate MFM008 Aug 2019 #8

Yes, please x 1000 peggysue2 Aug 2019 #60

Not a good slogan for Biden, watoos Aug 2019 #9

Actually, the Cold War with the USSR is what drove the Space Race ehrnst Aug 2019 #11

It still fits my definition of ideological gradiosity. watoos Aug 2019 #28

No, not really. Idealogical grandiosity was the tool to get the public behind the military push ehrnst Aug 2019 #32

Not a very good slogan! jcgoldie Aug 2019 #36

True - I like this better: "Joe Biden for President....because getting rid of Trump is paramount." Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #44

I feel ya jcgoldie Aug 2019 #47

x1000, Skya peggysue2 Aug 2019 #61

There is a difference between having aspirations and trying to find the best way to implement...what Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #51

You're Wrong! Biden has A Very Can DO Cha Aug 2019 #74

Joe Biden Is the Big Winner of the Democrats' Leftward Shift Gothmog Aug 2019 #78

Level of care? Really? SLClarke Aug 2019 #10

Well Put SLClarke Farmer-Rick Aug 2019 #18

I, too, agree with you SLClarke and Farmer-Rick. It's the dreams we've had that have created our in2herbs Aug 2019 #27

None of your dreams will happen unless we take over wasupaloopa Aug 2019 #105

+++++++++++ pangaia Aug 2019 #34

Delivery of care could be disrupted if a massive change in the system is implemented too quickly. ehrnst Aug 2019 #38

Exactly blm Aug 2019 #43

I will yield to the advice of Harry Truman Sherman A1 Aug 2019 #12

And Truman couldn't get the big plan passed wyldwolf Aug 2019 #17

True he couldn't get his plans passed but he tried and Sherman A1 Aug 2019 #24

If you'll recall, Obamacare was much more ambitious originally wyldwolf Aug 2019 #25

It is not about a pony Sherman A1 Aug 2019 #29

It's definitely a pony wyldwolf Aug 2019 #30

I disagree with your assessment Sherman A1 Aug 2019 #40

Explain to us then... wyldwolf Aug 2019 #53

Frankly Sherman A1 Aug 2019 #58

Magic fairy dust it is then! wyldwolf Aug 2019 #59

Or old stodgy ideas Sherman A1 Aug 2019 #67

interestingly, 'old, stodgy ideas' is better applied to MFA plans wyldwolf Aug 2019 #68

....... Sherman A1 Aug 2019 #69

....... wyldwolf Aug 2019 #70

That's precisely why no one single plan will be perfect for everyone - George II Aug 2019 #33

It's hard to get big plans passed when you don't control the narrative. CrispyQ Aug 2019 #62

compelling argument. So I'll say... wyldwolf Aug 2019 #63

"sustainable policy in America would emerge only by means of principled compromise crazytown Aug 2019 #13

Devastating point. theaocp Aug 2019 #16

Absolutely true crazytown Farmer-Rick Aug 2019 #22

I'm sick of plausibility being measured by current measures. rainin Aug 2019 #14

Excellent point. EndGOPPropaganda Aug 2019 #20

So, Sanders and Warren ideas are "stupid shit"? theaocp Aug 2019 #15

Warren must be very stupid indeed crazytown Aug 2019 #21

I'm for Warren EndGOPPropaganda Aug 2019 #19

Warren wrote Joe Biden's health care plan. crazytown Aug 2019 #23

You should worry more about the Joe Biden Enthusiasm Gap BeyondGeography Aug 2019 #26

I am now firmly in Elizabeth Warren's BlueMTexpat Aug 2019 #35

Uckin-fay. n/t theaocp Aug 2019 #55

I Hear What They Are Saying DallasNE Aug 2019 #37

+1000. There have to be details, not just "I'm not going to speculate on that right now" ehrnst Aug 2019 #45

I know people liked her line, but I immediately felt it was counter productive. themaguffin Aug 2019 #39

why ? JI7 Aug 2019 #42

because themaguffin Aug 2019 #87

Great editorial Gothmog Aug 2019 #46

Fuck WaPo and their fear based, Status Quo defeatism nt Fiendish Thingy Aug 2019 #48

Realistically, for MFA, you'd need to win the WH, the House and the Senate by well in excess of 60, OnDoutside Aug 2019 #49

Grounded in mathematical & political reality usually means, "How are we going to pay for it?" CrispyQ Aug 2019 #54

Yea, but that takes effort. theaocp Aug 2019 #56

K&R highplainsdem Aug 2019 #71

"Ah, but a man's reach should exceed his grasp, Or what's a heaven for?" ― Robert Browning Princetonian Aug 2019 #72

that was always my dating philosophy wyldwolf Aug 2019 #73

This is well put EndGOPPropaganda Aug 2019 #89

The moderates' health-care message can prevail Gothmog Aug 2019 #75

I respect fighters who win. gulliver Aug 2019 #83

I tend to bookmark posts on DU that I think are prolific. Your reply reminded me of one wyldwolf Aug 2019 #86

Sanders already has moved the entire Democratic party to the left Quixote1818 Aug 2019 #85

Banning private insurance polls very badly Gothmog Aug 2019 #88

The problem with the premise quaker bill Aug 2019 #90

Oligarchic mouthpiece says what? aidbo Aug 2019 #91

What shitty advice from WAPO. aikoaiko Aug 2019 #92

Why? Gothmog Aug 2019 #100

apparently because WAPO is a "Oligarchic mouthpiece." wyldwolf Aug 2019 #101

I have a subscription to the Washington Post Gothmog Aug 2019 #108

Fighting over the details of their healthcare proposals won't help them beat Donald Trump Gothmog Aug 2019 #93

I'll agree with WaPo on this one. comradebillyboy Aug 2019 #94

K&R question everything Aug 2019 #95

American politics could use a healthy dose of pragmatism Gothmog Aug 2019 #96

Magic wands and fairy dust wyldwolf Aug 2019 #98

Evidently sanders needs some sort of revolution to pass his platform Gothmog Aug 2019 #99

This message was self-deleted by its author Gothmog Aug 2019 #97

Have a plan, know what it takes to implement it, control wasupaloopa Aug 2019 #103

Personally I can't wait for Sanders and Warren to drop out. wasupaloopa Aug 2019 #104

Warren almost pissed me off with that one. The ultimate irony is she who proposes in great... TreasonousBastard Aug 2019 #106

We all know the WP is a friend of the status quo. Aaron Pereira Aug 2019 #107

no, "we" all don't "know that." wyldwolf Aug 2019 #109

What's a "prooooogreeeesssiiiivvve" outlet? Aaron Pereira Aug 2019 #110

oh, you know. The sources that aren't "mouthpieces for the status quo" or "Oligarchic mouthpieces." wyldwolf Aug 2019 #111