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Gothmog

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31. Joe Biden Is the Big Winner of the Democrats' Leftward Shift
Fri Aug 2, 2019, 06:01 PM
Aug 2019

Harris, sanders and Warren can go after the extreme left of the party but Biden will be the nominee if he wins the middle of the party which comprises the bulk of the party




In the 2016 race, voters who identified as “very liberal” were the only ideological group in which Sanders ran evenly with Hillary Clinton. But they represented only about one-fourth of all primary voters, according to a cumulative analysis of 2016 exit polls by CNN. Voters who identified as “somewhat liberal” (just over one-third) or “moderate and conservative” (about two-fifths) cast a larger share of the vote. Likewise, voters over age 45 cast fully 60 percent of all primary votes in 2016, compared with about one-sixth for voters under 30.

On paper, Biden could face competition for moderate and older voters from the other centrists in the field. But none of them have yet consolidated much support. And while some of the moderate candidates performed well over the two nights—particularly Senator Michael Bennet of Colorado and Montana Governor Steve Bullock—none of them had a breakout moment likely to dramatically improve their position. Meanwhile, several of the relative moderates, including Senator Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota and former Colorado Governor John Hickenlooper, delivered low-wattage performances that may further hurt their standing in the polls.....

A recent NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist College poll underscores the challenge Democrats may face selling many of those ideas. In that survey, 54 percent of Americans opposed eliminating private insurance; 62 percent opposed covering the undocumented in any national health-care system; and 66 percent opposed decriminalizing unauthorized border crossings.

Even among Democrats who identified as moderate or conservative, nearly half opposed covering the undocumented, and a clear majority opposed decriminalizing border crossings, according to detailed results provided to The Atlantic by Marist. A solid majority of those more moderate Democrats also rejected ending the death penalty, which every major Democratic contender has now embraced. In the survey, a national health-care system that eliminates private insurance did register support from a clear majority of both liberal Democrats and moderates. But, for Democrats primarily concerned about electability, the overall public’s opposition to that idea may still make them hesitant about supporting a candidate who advocates for it.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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are you sure ? there is a thread about Sanders massive lead from coast to coast JI7 Aug 2019 #1
Wow.. I guess I missed that one! Cha Aug 2019 #6
I don't think Mr Anger will keep his lead. We need some niceness to counteract the hateful rhetoric katmondoo Aug 2019 #14
I saw that one... ROFL! NurseJackie Aug 2019 #24
Thats a lead in campaign donations, not the polls onetexan Aug 2019 #41
When someone encourages his follower to make many small contributions rather than one... George II Aug 2019 #54
That meant to read... SouthernProgressive Aug 2019 #42
That was with respect to "contributors", not polls. And much of it was speculative anyway. George II Aug 2019 #53
I like everyone in that list except for Senator BS. Can't understand why Mayor Pete Still In Wisconsin Aug 2019 #2
Many people think the same as you. NurseJackie Aug 2019 #25
like a lot of our good candidates.. busterbrown Aug 2019 #40
"As a representative online sample, it does not report a probability confidence interval." bluewater Aug 2019 #3
I don't have any more info on the poll than what's in that article, but it says they'll have more highplainsdem Aug 2019 #7
It doesn't fit that poster's narrative so it must be crap. BannonsLiver Aug 2019 #9
"is an online sample drawn from the Harris Panel and weighted to reflect known demographics." bluewater Aug 2019 #11
... OilemFirchen Aug 2019 #30
Excellent point. These pollsters "invite", "sample" and "weigh" bluewater Aug 2019 #32
"it does not report a probability confidence interval." bluewater Aug 2019 #13
The "Harris Panel" is "sampled" and "weighted" bluewater Aug 2019 #22
What is the "Harris Panel"? DeminPennswoods Aug 2019 #35
Thanks! So it IS a preselected group of people that they "survey" from over and over. bluewater Aug 2019 #36
Imho, the big problem with these polls that DeminPennswoods Aug 2019 #52
If polls don't matter... SouthernProgressive Aug 2019 #43
Its a good poll of the "Harris Panel" bluewater Aug 2019 #44
I'm not sure who they are. SouthernProgressive Aug 2019 #45
That the poll is a survey of the "Harris Panel"and not the general population is eye opening bluewater Aug 2019 #46
Why do you think it is "eye opening?" SouthernProgressive Aug 2019 #47
Re-read the post you just responded to, perhaps? bluewater Aug 2019 #49
Thanks, highplainsdem.. Cha Aug 2019 #4
So the progressive candidates, together, have a big lead over the moderate candidate in 1st place. InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2019 #5
??????????????????? highplainsdem Aug 2019 #10
That is one way of looking at it Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #15
And in this poll Sanders and Warren together have 25% compared to 34% for Biden. highplainsdem Aug 2019 #20
This sampled and weighted poll of the "Harris Panel" ? bluewater Aug 2019 #27
True to form. BannonsLiver Aug 2019 #17
Only if you ignore the 15% rule Gothmog Aug 2019 #33
SPEW!!! NBachers Aug 2019 #39
34 is greater than 17 plus 8. George II Aug 2019 #55
let's go Joe ! stonecutter357 Aug 2019 #8
Biden holds almost a four-to-one lead over Harris who has support in the single digits. Princetonian Aug 2019 #12
No it didn't work... Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #16
Good! It's increasingly clear that BS will not be our party's nominee! NurseJackie Aug 2019 #18
I think this demonstrates that Bernie ran a national campaign in 2016... LAS14 Aug 2019 #19
Yep! That small detail is conveniently omitted. NurseJackie Aug 2019 #26
None of the other presidential candidates gained any ground on Joe Biden Gothmog Aug 2019 #21
Oh, the mysteries of life, if that is true Perseus Aug 2019 #23
Biden's a damn strong candidate. LincolnRossiter Aug 2019 #28
Effectively almost all will vote for the candidate with the strongest Hortensis Aug 2019 #29
Joe Biden Is the Big Winner of the Democrats' Leftward Shift Gothmog Aug 2019 #31
Great post! Thx Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #34
Wow.. I love that tweet pic! Joe Biden Is the Big Winner of the Democrats' Leftward Shift Cha Aug 2019 #51
Sanders holds individual donor lead in virtually all of the continental US Tiggeroshii Aug 2019 #37
Right on the money Tigger... as usual!! InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2019 #56
K&R Scurrilous Aug 2019 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author Tiggeroshii Aug 2019 #48
If you believe Warren is polling 8 ... crazytown Aug 2019 #50
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