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not_the_one

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77. I had been thinking this may be the case...
Sat Aug 3, 2019, 01:55 PM
Aug 2019

It just goes to show that all segments of society can practice blatant, baseless discrimination, while at the same time bemoaning themselves as being persecuted...

Screw the bigoted black men. They will also be the same who see women as their "bitches". If the women and young can convinced, we would still come out way ahead.

If the black political leaders, and the black churches can be brought on board, we could still do this. They carry a huge influence in the black community.

I think there have been enough young blacks that have come out as gay to help convince the younger generation. Black women, who are more accepting of gay and lesbians, can help bring along most of the rest of the black men.

But above all, there needs to be counter programing to, and by, the black churches. At least until church opinion is relegated to the trash bin, where it belongs. If they start quoting the bible, tell them to read Ephesians 6:5, where slaves are admonished to obey their earthly masters, just like they would Christ.

If the black community can't get behind the core values of the party, they need to understand that there are consequences.

The Democratic party is more than the black community. Yet we are being perceived as, basically, allowing them to pick our leaders for us. We feel that the democratic ticket must include a woman and/or a black, preferably both. That is an admirable hope, but the right person must be selected for reasons in addition to gender and race.

It is always depressing when someone demands "my way, or I sit at home", and we win anyway... It makes they one making the demands almost irrelevant.

WE are counting on:

Democrats, women, young, LGBTQ, Hispanics, Blacks

They are counting on:

Bigots, fundies, racists

Overall, IF PEOPLE BOTHER TO VOTE, I think we will have the blue tsunami that we are hoping for.

And if you don't come to the party and do your part, it will be noticed.

Nobody likes feeling irrelevant.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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Sadly.. IMHO it would hurt 😞 Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #1
The *ONLY* people who will give a crap The Mouth Aug 2019 #2
Amen! True Dough Aug 2019 #6
good point.. may or may not be 100% true,, how would I know,, pangaia Aug 2019 #8
That's what I think... Same people who won't vote for a woman or anyone not white. hlthe2b Aug 2019 #12
i think this is correct rampartc Aug 2019 #13
+1 demmiblue Aug 2019 #14
I think it's a lot more complicated than that Indygram Aug 2019 #16
Its likely he will be offered a position in the next Democratic administration. IphengeniaBlumgarten Aug 2019 #18
Gotta wash socks. BBL. n/t rzemanfl Aug 2019 #67
Buttigieg would do fine as POTUS, much less VPOTUS. Garrett78 Aug 2019 #22
I disagree Indygram Aug 2019 #40
I'm not saying he's going to become POTUS. There's virtually no chance that he will. Garrett78 Aug 2019 #55
Wow. cwydro Aug 2019 #51
Really? What if black voters don't warm to him? They vote Democratic. dem4decades Aug 2019 #39
I heard this conversation with some black Dems at the liberal Funtatlaguy Aug 2019 #58
How ironic is that. kacekwl Aug 2019 #63
I had been thinking this may be the case... not_the_one Aug 2019 #77
I don't think that's either fair or true: marybourg Aug 2019 #79
When Hillary was running in 2016, zackymilly Aug 2019 #85
Homophobia is unacceptable, as is antisemitism. If they don't warm to him should he Autumn Aug 2019 #64
Let's beat Trump first with a candidate that all Democrats want to support then move on and dem4decades Aug 2019 #72
There are some who won't be enlightened and they aren't going to change. Autumn Aug 2019 #73
If we won't tolerate, and condemn racists then we shouldn't tolerate, and should The Mouth Aug 2019 #74
There are actually lots of bigoted Democrats, sadly. Oneironaut Aug 2019 #68
If we could win with an African American person The Mouth Aug 2019 #75
I hope it's neither Shrek Aug 2019 #3
Imagining him up against Pence, I'm feeling like it helps. gulliver Aug 2019 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author wyldwolf Aug 2019 #7
Ordering popcorn now. I'd pay to see that debate pairing. brush Aug 2019 #9
pence is emotionally distubed and shoul;d seem help pangaia Aug 2019 #10
That's unfair to the emotionally disturbed. The Mouth Aug 2019 #82
I underestand what you mean,, and I do not disagree. pangaia Aug 2019 #84
Be Honest Surrogate Aug 2019 #33
Very good points there. Nt BootinUp Aug 2019 #42
There are many closet homophobes out there. Funtatlaguy Aug 2019 #5
You are so right. cwydro Aug 2019 #56
He offers almost nothing as a V.P. SouthernProgressive Aug 2019 #11
im thinking it wont make any difference... samnsara Aug 2019 #15
mayor pete pamdb Aug 2019 #17
Gotta wash socks. BBL rzemanfl Aug 2019 #65
Hard to say. LiberalFighter Aug 2019 #19
Post removed Post removed Aug 2019 #20
Who was the last cabinet officer elected president later? jberryhill Aug 2019 #26
Not supporting Pete because he's gay only reinforces anti-lbtq mentalities. HerbChestnut Aug 2019 #21
Depends who heads the ticket. GulfCoast66 Aug 2019 #23
I think he's already taken, so the answer is "neither" jberryhill Aug 2019 #24
WTH? It's a legitimate question IMO. It has nothing to do with availability. brush Aug 2019 #29
Oh, well maybe you should be more specific jberryhill Aug 2019 #30
Re-read the OP. brush Aug 2019 #31
To which my reaction is "Hurt or help what?" jberryhill Aug 2019 #34
I'm surprised. You've never seemed to have a comprehension problem. brush Aug 2019 #35
The Constitutional role of the VP is to preside over the Senate jberryhill Aug 2019 #36
If it's not clear to you, let's drop it. brush Aug 2019 #37
JBH is just f'ing with you, man/ma'am ... is it really not obvious? mr_lebowski Aug 2019 #59
I hope that's it, a sense of humor and not a loss of sense. brush Aug 2019 #69
Lol, Thank you. cwydro Aug 2019 #52
You are most welcome jberryhill Aug 2019 #87
..... yardwork Aug 2019 #66
This question kind of pisses me off - I don't think its valid. FreeState Aug 2019 #25
Not coming from bias. brush Aug 2019 #28
Sad to read this here. cwydro Aug 2019 #54
Meaning? brush Aug 2019 #70
I think he'd be great. LakeArenal Aug 2019 #27
I really like a Warren/Pete ticket.... The empressof all Aug 2019 #32
We are in no danger of picking a mayor for VP bucolic_frolic Aug 2019 #38
I think the answer depends on the whole package. BootinUp Aug 2019 #41
The only people who would consider it customerserviceguy Aug 2019 #43
It's not just about who will or not vote for him because of it Indygram Aug 2019 #44
Trump's going to do that anyway customerserviceguy Aug 2019 #45
Not sure how familiar you are with evangelicals, but I used to go to one of those churches Indygram Aug 2019 #48
I've seen my share of fundies customerserviceguy Aug 2019 #57
well, imho, it is why he is raising so much money. mopinko Aug 2019 #46
interesting... myohmy2 Aug 2019 #47
Hurt...SADLY. Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #49
Ugh. cwydro Aug 2019 #50
Harris/Buttigieg is my #2 favorite ticket aeromanKC Aug 2019 #53
Getting out the vote in the swing states treestar Aug 2019 #60
I don't think it will hurt... Mike Nelson Aug 2019 #61
It's a shame in this day and age you kacekwl Aug 2019 #62
Come back to the real world. People ask questions like that. brush Aug 2019 #71
Yes they do. kacekwl Aug 2019 #81
You're welcome to start a thread on any of those however we here at left-leaning... brush Aug 2019 #83
It would be nice to get somebody Turbineguy Aug 2019 #76
It certainly won't help. comradebillyboy Aug 2019 #78
I would be cool with that Downtown Hound Aug 2019 #80
Mayor Pete will electrify the electorate. His voters will Politicub Aug 2019 #86
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