Democratic Primaries

CentralMass

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91. That is not how I think about elections. I'm not a sycophant .

Thu Mar 14, 2019, 09:21 PM

Mar 2019

I"ve learned something about a candidates voting and understand that he is a Democrat in a red state.

Having said that i lived my first 54 years in New England and I now find myself in the Pacific Northwest. I have my preferences and biases. I am very familiar with Bernie Sanders and I voted for Senator Warren. I like them both. They both fight for the middle and poor classes, admittedly with different philosophies. They both are renegades and their policy ideas, focus. and passion speak to me. In light of the sabotage that tRump and company have done to this government Joe Biden is also in my upper tier of candidates. His experience would be a great asset and i think that he would be able to build a great administration

I have nothing against Beto O'Rourke but he has no great appeal to me. He is young and doesn't have a great deal of experience and his voting record doesn't score any points with me, but good luck to him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Beto O'Rourke frequently voted for Republican legislation, analysis reveals [View all] babylonsister Mar 2019 OP

It's no secret that he's more of a left-center politician than much of the field. bearsfootball516 Mar 2019 #1

Your analysis is right. Also keep in mind that Sirota is part of the Sanders campaign still_one Mar 2019 #4

That's pretty much all you need to know. R B Garr Mar 2019 #34

Yep. sheshe2 Mar 2019 #92

It's helpful to know this as well. lapucelle Mar 2019 #109

Riiiighht, THAT splains BO's voting record. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #36

This captapults Sirota's claim right out of the water.. Cha Mar 2019 #106

David Sirota is part of the Sanders campaign. He is NOT an unbiased source. No wonder some are still_one Mar 2019 #2

Whatever you think of Sirota, and I am no fan, he links the original material dsc Mar 2019 #11

It will be interesting how someone can win in Texas by trashing the fossil fuel industry still_one Mar 2019 #14

I don't recall anyone thinking that defense of Clinton was OK dsc Mar 2019 #27

Yup yup. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #37

This isn't about Hillary. This is about 2020, and who will be the best Democratic nominee in the still_one Mar 2019 #43

funny how when a good looking young male does something it is OK dsc Mar 2019 #46

Oh, Sirota was even worse with Hillary. Also, I am not a Beto supporter, still_one Mar 2019 #72

Oh I have no truck for Sirota but the difference in reception to Beto and to Hillary dsc Mar 2019 #75

no doubt still_one Mar 2019 #82

Excellent point. George II Mar 2019 #105

The 167 figure is misleading. TwilightZone Mar 2019 #33

The number is inflated dsc Mar 2019 #47

Harris doesn't live in Texas. TwilightZone Mar 2019 #54

Harris could be Senator from Mars and her supporters would fit in a phone booth if she had his dsc Mar 2019 #56

That's irrelevant to my overall point. TwilightZone Mar 2019 #65

He linked the original source material dsc Mar 2019 #67

I'm not questioning the facts. TwilightZone Mar 2019 #77

I am not saying he shouldn't be voted for because he is a good looking white male dsc Mar 2019 #81

This original source material? lapucelle Mar 2019 #94

I like Pro Publica too. lapucelle Mar 2019 #74

FYI.. Cha Mar 2019 #104

David Sirota, the Sanders supporter who falsely claimed that Beto took donations from oil/gas TwilightZone Mar 2019 #3

David Sirota is Bernie's Roger Stone nt forklift Mar 2019 #21

+1. Perfect description! dalton99a Mar 2019 #79

That 'performance' by Sirota was despicable. He's now a proven liar emulatorloo Mar 2019 #31

Sadly a guy pumping gas at the local service station... George II Mar 2019 #145

If he is the nominee Sherman A1 Mar 2019 #5

Seriously... I prefer Bernie, who votes consistently with his fellow Democrats. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #38

I do as well Sherman A1 Mar 2019 #44

The more I read about Yang, the more I like... wish him (and you) luck. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #48

Same here. CentralMass Mar 2019 #64

Another dedicated to BS. Amimnoch Mar 2019 #6

What's to fear about BO? He's certainly no threat to Bernie... InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #50

LOL. Okay. -nt. Amimnoch Mar 2019 #51

Yes. sheshe2 Mar 2019 #102

Hey, as long as they can BASH one of our DEMOCRATIC candidates, right! Eliot Rosewater Mar 2019 #83

I love the fact that both fox news and the sanders supporters are terrified of Beto Gothmog Mar 2019 #7

Terrified of BO? Hardly... Bernie has him on most issues the Democratic base cares about... InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #57

LOL Gothmog Mar 2019 #89

Keep dreaming. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #113

TBH sheshe2 Mar 2019 #108

Beto's initials are RFO'B Gothmog Mar 2019 #123

Ah, BO......brings back memories of Barack Obama! George II Mar 2019 #160

Yes it does, George. sheshe2 Mar 2019 #161

Beto reminds a lot of people of Obama. Charismatic with a positive message. N/T lapucelle Mar 2019 #168

Here is our secret weapon against fox news Gothmog Mar 2019 #126

See post #49 for an accurate presentation of the two voting records. George II Mar 2019 #155

Beto's 92% in "votes with the majority of Democrats" is much better than BS's 79.6%. lapucelle Mar 2019 #163

And Beto is a DEMOCRAT Eliot Rosewater Mar 2019 #84

That is not how I think about elections. I'm not a sycophant . CentralMass Mar 2019 #91

Beto is electable which is why sanders supporters are terrified of Beto Gothmog Mar 2019 #93

Pardon my opinion but I don't think anyone is terrified of him. CentralMass Mar 2019 #107

Yes, I wish him luck. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #115

Really??? Gothmog Mar 2019 #129

I really don't care about your candidate and don't subsubcribe to going negative. CentralMass Mar 2019 #132

I am hardly terrified of Beto. But Kamala would be my second choice and Beto vsrazdem Mar 2019 #127

I don't care. I care about whether he can beat Trump. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #8

Excellent point. The stakes are too damned high this time. Actually they were too high in 2016, still_one Mar 2019 #30

+1 million happybird Mar 2019 #85

More attacks from the Sanders supporters. TexasTowelie Mar 2019 #9

I supported Bernie in the 2016 primaries but he, or at least some of his supporters, The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #10

It's certainly starting earlier RandySF Mar 2019 #13

I wasn't a member on DU during the contested primary of 2008. TexasTowelie Mar 2019 #20

It almost seems like it is coordinated off-DU forklift Mar 2019 #17

There was a learning curve. TexasTowelie Mar 2019 #25

You've been a member here since Feb 20th 2019 Kentonio Mar 2019 #138

Yes ... there was a thread here about JPR a couple of days ago forklift Mar 2019 #139

LOL vsrazdem Mar 2019 #128

This message was self-deleted by its author RandySF Mar 2019 #12

Meh ... weak sauce, Beto rocks!!!!! nt forklift Mar 2019 #15

Wow the vetting of Beto is getting interesting workinclasszero Mar 2019 #16

Vetting is one thing, but posting things like this is another: George II Mar 2019 #22

Bingo! sheshe2 Mar 2019 #112

It's been mighty quiet so far for more than 15 hours. A "drive by" attack on O'Rourke. George II Mar 2019 #124

15 hours? sheshe2 Mar 2019 #125

LOL. TexasTowelie Mar 2019 #23

It sure is!! Apparently, we're not allowed to look too closely at BO's voting record... InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #53

I don't have an issue with anyone examining Beto's voting record. TexasTowelie Mar 2019 #134

Neither do I, as long as it's examined objectively and not misrepresented or lied about. George II Mar 2019 #169

I don't know where it was, but this was debunked this afternoon here on DU. If I come across it.... George II Mar 2019 #18

This message was self-deleted by its author George II Mar 2019 #26

Red state Democrat..Why are people surprised? I bet he is nothing helpisontheway Mar 2019 #19

Anyone aiming at Dems rather than the fat, lying, treasonous rapist and racist, is not a Dem. Hassler Mar 2019 #24

Thank you! True Blue American Mar 2019 #153

Yeah, yeah. And Obama voted to protect telecoms from liability in warrant-less wiretap. McCamy Taylor Mar 2019 #28

Here's where I saw a clarification of O'Rourke's votes, demonstrating.... George II Mar 2019 #29

I would be uncomfortable using a foreign publication to bash an American candidate of our own party. RandySF Mar 2019 #32

Sirota is an American. TwilightZone Mar 2019 #35

Are you comfortable with using the candidate's voting record?? InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #39

For starters, I think it's a conflict of interest on the part of the author because RandySF Mar 2019 #42

What does any of that have to do with BO's voting record? InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #61

Russian Sanctions. sheshe2 Mar 2019 #116

BS voted against the party majority 18.6% of the time compared to Beto's 8.0%. lapucelle Mar 2019 #55

Not this crap from Sirota OBrien Mar 2019 #40

from the Sanders Central Committee... JCMach1 Mar 2019 #41

About author Dave Sirota RandySF Mar 2019 #45

For context, from Pro Publica... lapucelle Mar 2019 #49

How could have Sanders voted against the party so frequently TexasTowelie Mar 2019 #135

I had no idea that BS voted against the party so frequently. Looks like Beto has a BETTER record. NurseJackie Mar 2019 #141

Good post. MrsCoffee Mar 2019 #147

Ooops. A little dose of reality doesn't hurt, but can be embarrassing, eh? George II Mar 2019 #152

Oops! True Blue American Mar 2019 #154

Facts NastyRiffraff Mar 2019 #166

So Bernie who votes with the democrats 99% of time gets slammed as "not a democrat" workinclasszero Mar 2019 #52

Beto doesn't go around saying things like this about Cha Mar 2019 #58

Sanders has voted against party 18% of the time this term. TwilightZone Mar 2019 #59

BS voted against the party 20.4% of the time in the previous session of Congress. lapucelle Mar 2019 #117

I've noticed the people initiating these threads don't seem to respond to facts jcgoldie Mar 2019 #146

+1 sheshe2 Mar 2019 #164

BS voted with Democrats 81.4% of the time according to Pro Publica. lapucelle Mar 2019 #62

Absolutely Freaking Amazing, lapucelle! Cha Mar 2019 #66

I wonder if David Sirota knows... lapucelle Mar 2019 #69

Or cares? Cha Mar 2019 #71

That you so much for all the information, lapucelle! betsuni Mar 2019 #130

IKR! How strange is that? Apparently, when it comes to BO, we can't inspect his voting record. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #63

Yep workinclasszero Mar 2019 #70

No you don't have to "tiptoe" around that subject, just present his VOTING record, not.... George II Mar 2019 #100

No one objects to O'Rourke's voting record being inspected, all anyone asks for is.... George II Mar 2019 #99

Sorry, Sanders doesn't vote with the Democrats (CAPITAL D) 99% of the time. Nor did O'Rourke.... George II Mar 2019 #76

So the boast that "BS-Votes-With-Democrats-99%" IS A MYTH... I figured as much. NurseJackie Mar 2019 #142

As much of a myth as one candidate leading in the polls of all 50 States. George II Mar 2019 #143

I've bookmarked this thread and the source info. I'm sure someone will repeat the 99% MYTH again... NurseJackie Mar 2019 #144

See post #49. George II Mar 2019 #110

Right? babylonsister Mar 2019 #121

BS votes with the Democrats 81.4% of the time, Beto 92% according to Pro Publica. lapucelle Mar 2019 #167

Author Dave Sirota fired from campaign for involvement with racist attack against Latino candidate. RandySF Mar 2019 #60

Awkward. George II Mar 2019 #103

Meanwhile, 46% said Gillum was too liberal and 41% that Abrams was too liberal Awsi Dooger Mar 2019 #68

Abrams did better than anyone had for 20 years dsc Mar 2019 #78

If the BS'ers are that terrified of Beto and continue using his initials, shouldn't it be BO'R? SFnomad Mar 2019 #73

Qapla' !! TwilightZone Mar 2019 #80

BS is in big trouble in 2020 Renew Deal Mar 2019 #86

I just wish a certain NON Democrat and his supporters would stop Eliot Rosewater Mar 2019 #87

Beto's a charismatic guy, but once Biden gets in he will fade away I think. Autumn Mar 2019 #88

I think that it will be sanders who fades away Gothmog Mar 2019 #90

Who knows. nt Autumn Mar 2019 #95

I don't know about Biden, or Beto. babylonsister Mar 2019 #96

God, so do I. He is so amazing and such a brilliant man. Autumn Mar 2019 #97

He'll be a great candidate, one of the front runners once the polls include him. George II Mar 2019 #111

He was great campaigning in Texas. My niece there was a big supporter. nt Autumn Mar 2019 #114

I love Beto, considering switching from Harris to Beto AlexSFCA Mar 2019 #98

David Sirota's Attempt To Smear Beto O'Rourke Goes Horribly Wrong Cha Mar 2019 #101

Oh noes! "Extreme" vetting! nt shanny Mar 2019 #118

Oh Him Again Me. Mar 2019 #119

Like it or not he votes his district Jake Stern Mar 2019 #120

It's something that "real progressives" can't seem to understand SFnomad Mar 2019 #122

AOC's percentage in voting against the party is the same as Beto's. lapucelle Mar 2019 #136

Thank you! betsuni Mar 2019 #137

Thank you. lapucelle! sheshe2 Mar 2019 #165

Your premise was proven last summer when she and Sanders barnstormed the midwest.... George II Mar 2019 #156

Beto is making us have a meltdown thread #19 forklift Mar 2019 #131

#Seriously. Cha Mar 2019 #133

I wonder how this talking point is working out for "true progressives" like David Sirota. lapucelle Mar 2019 #140

Since Sirota is intellectually dishonest (aka a liar) he's probably aware of BS's percentage emulatorloo Mar 2019 #149

Another smear by a a guy who supports a certain candidate. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #148

And the obvious lies and smears reflect poorly on both... NurseJackie Mar 2019 #150

I agree. Those who do this hurt their candidate's credibility...and when I read such posts I Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #159

Classic Sirota. Full disclosure for thee but not for me. RelativelyJones Mar 2019 #151

This seems to be propaganda on DU - This is an anti Democrat approach lancelyons Mar 2019 #157

Trolls among us? True Blue American Mar 2019 #158

So, another battle breaks out. Another hit dog yelps. MineralMan Mar 2019 #162