Democratic Primaries

Demsrule86

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58. Many progressives also let us down by voting for Stein or staying home.This is a center left country

Mon Aug 12, 2019, 09:07 AM

Aug 2019

a progressive will not win the general...the midterms clearly showed this...with 40 moderates winning election.You run Warren and we could lose the House as well...MFA will kill her chance as will reparations, free college etc...all worthy ideas but simply will not work in this electorate. And 16 was unlike any election in my lifetime...but in order to win, we need three states. Biden can win those states...and maybe Sanders. He made some connections last time. No one else will. We have a real shot at taking Ohio and other states with Biden...he would help with the Senate as well as we need purple and red state Democrats to win. Progressives have not made their case to country...this primarying Democrats and talking all the time in insulated blue states about policy that won't pass now maybe ever will not win hearts and minds in Ohio or Pennsylvania.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Is Elizabeth Warren Electable? [View all] applegrove Aug 2019 OP

My guess is that we are going to find out. Voltaire2 Aug 2019 #1

Polls show sanders supporters 2nd choice is Biden Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #7

I don't agree...and if that were to happen, we will lose the general if there is any contested Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #8

So if, just as a theoretical example, Voltaire2 Aug 2019 #10

It won't work out that way...I see three candidates when the dust settles and two are now below the Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #15

Harris who polls worse than Warren by the way is unlikely to be a contender at the Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #16

Sure if there is a candidate that has a majority that is fine. Voltaire2 Aug 2019 #24

It's my bet that the Sanders "Bernie Bros" BlueMTexpat Aug 2019 #28

probably. evertonfc Aug 2019 #2

Glad to see this True Dough Aug 2019 #3

Warren is very electable jimlup Aug 2019 #4

What the progressive wing does not understand is that without moderate voters, independent and some Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #9

I have faith that such voters will not put trump Ninga Aug 2019 #33

They will put Trump in office if they don't think our nominee is better...we hate Trump here... Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #34

You are wrong. The incumbent has an advantage...Trumps folks are very motivated...I don't see Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #59

Well we didn't in 2016 jimlup Aug 2019 #40

Many progressives also let us down by voting for Stein or staying home.This is a center left country Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #58

We have a different outlook on the electorate jimlup Aug 2019 #62

How do you explain 40 moderates giving us the house? I wish we were a progressive country...we Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #64

You seem really invested in the "Warren can't win key swing states idea". Blue_true Aug 2019 #53

Consider it a warning...I want to win...and I live in the Mid West...she won't win here...she will Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #60

As a consequence of winning the nomination, she will have to run on Blue_true Aug 2019 #65

Have you looked at the electoral college map? When we lost the blue wall MI, WI and PA we Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #67

Ummmm not so much. She has to do better with the AA vote. Right now she's at 4% Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #11

That poll seems focused on the primaries. JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 2019 #20

If she is not supported in the primaries...she won't be the nominee. Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #35

What good are big ideas if you're not in power? 5starlib Aug 2019 #13

Very true...welcome to DU. Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #36

True and very well stated. n/t MarcA Aug 2019 #27

She better do better with the African-American community OKNancy Aug 2019 #5

Although I like a lot of her ideas..... calguy Aug 2019 #6

I agree with you completely! As much as I would luv to see a FE prez the numbers aren't there Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #12

This is Such a Sexist Premise/Question dlk Aug 2019 #14

No. I am a Biden supporter. Why? He's a good guy and right now the most electable. applegrove Aug 2019 #19

So that question only be asked about men? nini Aug 2019 #80

There have been a number of polls showing Warren would beat Trump in the GE. highplainsdem Aug 2019 #17

I think she is and so may this never-Trumpster.... KY_EnviroGuy Aug 2019 #18

Kristol didn't opine if she could win DrToast Aug 2019 #31

but it implies a lot. many people who didn't think much of her have JI7 Aug 2019 #38

yes! myohmy2 Aug 2019 #21

YES! Lordquinton Aug 2019 #22

Doubtful. Too pedantic. Little warmth. Wordy plans. nt Persondem Aug 2019 #23

I wish she was but think she's flamingdem Aug 2019 #25

You think moderate Dems would vote for Trump over Warren? TexasBushwhacker Aug 2019 #45

I see your point. Moderates / Independents flamingdem Aug 2019 #47

lul YES ! stonecutter357 Aug 2019 #26

Yes, because whence she comes. NNadir Aug 2019 #29

I don't believe so DrToast Aug 2019 #30

The answer is obviously... Mike Nelson Aug 2019 #32

Yes. Dawson Leery Aug 2019 #37

Yes. nt Tipperary Aug 2019 #39

No one thought Trump was "electable" until DeminPennswoods Aug 2019 #41

Seems apropos nbsmom Aug 2019 #42

Seeing Elizabeth Warren speak today confirmed something I already thought Algernon Moncrieff Aug 2019 #43

+1 i think she does best when talking about economic fairness and applegrove Aug 2019 #44

Well stated. Great line "news-the-crowd-can-use." Yours? nt LAS14 Aug 2019 #46

I didn't coin the phrase, but I haven't heard anyone else use it in this context. Algernon Moncrieff Aug 2019 #49

Given the election of Trump, I'm not sure how anyone could ask that question. n/t elocs Aug 2019 #48

Yes TSIAS Aug 2019 #50

I don't know lordsummerisle Aug 2019 #51

If she gets the nomination customerserviceguy Aug 2019 #52

I wish she would make fun of herself more. applegrove Aug 2019 #54

i think our strongest ticket would be warren/biden questionseverything Aug 2019 #55

Or Biden/Warren. We have great choices. applegrove Aug 2019 #56

If Joe Biden customerserviceguy Aug 2019 #61

i think joe biden cares more about his country than that questionseverything Aug 2019 #66

There's a saying customerserviceguy Aug 2019 #68

i guess i just think more of him than you do questionseverything Aug 2019 #71

What he will do customerserviceguy Aug 2019 #72

Silly question-- of course she is. I usually try to ignore the automatic... TreasonousBastard Aug 2019 #57

Yes. Next question?...nt SidDithers Aug 2019 #63

IMO, should E.W. soften her position on M4A, she'll rise. nt oasis Aug 2019 #69

Medicare for all polls badly Gothmog Aug 2019 #70

NYT-Many Democrats Worried About Warren Gothmog Aug 2019 #73

Why Elizabeth Warren is Trump's Weakest Opponent Gothmog Aug 2019 #74

I thought RW sources weren't allowed here Bradshaw3 Aug 2019 #78

She's getting more electable day by day. She's comradebillyboy Aug 2019 #75

Here is some interesting polling Gothmog Aug 2019 #76

Yes. Iggo Aug 2019 #77

Whoever can inspire a significant increase in the youth vote is our best candidate Fiendish Thingy Aug 2019 #79