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Demsrule86

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112. The poll they site...she is losing by nine points...and that is Iowa only...she is losing in

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Mon Aug 12, 2019, 09:15 AM

Aug 2019

other states as well...I see no surge myself. Perhaps among Sanders voters or Harris voters...not seeing it...and good. She won't win a general...although she would have of course have my vote.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Elizabeth Warren circles in Iowa as Joe Biden stumbles [View all] BeyondGeography Aug 2019 OP

Bostonglobe or no polls don't back this opinion piece up Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #1

It's not an opinion piece BeyondGeography Aug 2019 #2

Okay.. the polls still don't support it Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #3

And the only poll that matters doesn't happen till February 2020. BlueWI Aug 2019 #9

Can't win what? Algernon Moncrieff Aug 2019 #10

It is not news...not one poll backs it up...it is what some want to happen...I can often even Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #11

The polls say she has surged most everywhere while Biden's numbers have been mostly static BeyondGeography Aug 2019 #17

Static? I frame it "Consistently" in the lead. LakeArenal Aug 2019 #44

Not according to this article: TexasTowelie Aug 2019 #79

Places where she hasn't campaigned BeyondGeography Aug 2019 #81

Considering that Warren will need to win in those states in order to win the election TexasTowelie Aug 2019 #82

She's got the sequencing right, everyone is circling the same targets right now BeyondGeography Aug 2019 #84

So, IOW, you are calling me stupid. TexasTowelie Aug 2019 #87

Warren is a MA liberal by way of Oklahoma BeyondGeography Aug 2019 #89

I have watched her town halls. TexasTowelie Aug 2019 #97

Just for the record BeyondGeography Aug 2019 #105

At this point we are in disagreement. TexasTowelie Aug 2019 #106

Thanks for your input, Cha Aug 2019 #100

What polls has she surged in? Last I saw she was still down even in New Hampshire... Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #111

Her support in Iowa has nearly tripled since April BeyondGeography Aug 2019 #114

I am not concerned about the ideological label for her multiple plans (although Republicans will emmaverybo Aug 2019 #83

Word. ucrdem Aug 2019 #96

We've come to an age where polls are more important than campaigns, have we? NNadir Aug 2019 #47

+1 True Dough Aug 2019 #77

Warren is only six years younger than him. Carter has been sharp as a tack into his 90s. George II Aug 2019 #4

That"s Carter, not Joe. And Warren appears like she's 15 or 20 years younger in my view. KPN Aug 2019 #34

Biden is no longer the sharp guy he may have been, is not laser focused like Warren or Harris and I monmouth4 Aug 2019 #5

That is what people have been saying since the start...I think the numbers will hold Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #13

You must not have read Biden's Op-Ed on Central America published recently, heard his speech on emmaverybo Aug 2019 #101

I agree with all of your points, I just think Elizabeth is a lot sharper. However, and I am not monmouth4 Aug 2019 #104

Very sharp on her own plans and about income inequality in America. More cerebral in style than emmaverybo Aug 2019 #108

I like Warren. I don't think she gets the rust belt back redstateblues Aug 2019 #102

I am not sure why it is BlueMTexpat Aug 2019 #6

Biden Bros? Merlot Aug 2019 #12

That I really would hate BlueMTexpat Aug 2019 #57

Yeah, it's such a "lovely" insult.. Thanks Cha Aug 2019 #74

"Lovingly" they don't stop at railing against Biden, but insult we who support him too. You made emmaverybo Aug 2019 #109

lol! "Bidenbros?" Cha Aug 2019 #110

Got to hand it to whomever thought up "Bidenbros." Well, we "bros" got each other. . emmaverybo Aug 2019 #119

We will see...right now I see little to no evidence of this. Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #14

This "point" has been disproven on here many times Bradshaw3 Aug 2019 #53

It doesn't have to work that way...I well remember when Kennedy died...so I maintain she should not Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #117

I certainly did not say anything negative....just facts. I would luv to see a Fe prez Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #16

OK, thanks! BlueMTexpat Aug 2019 #55

If this was just about Warren, you'd be right... Drunken Irishman Aug 2019 #37

I did read the article. BlueMTexpat Aug 2019 #58

Na'. I'm good. Thanks for your concern. Drunken Irishman Aug 2019 #60

I did have a concern that BlueMTexpat Aug 2019 #86

No. The first response is to discount this silly notion Biden is stumbling. Drunken Irishman Aug 2019 #88

This is the first response to this thread. BlueMTexpat Aug 2019 #90

That's the one! The polls don't back up the claim Biden has stumbled. Drunken Irishman Aug 2019 #91

Sheesh! BlueMTexpat Aug 2019 #93

Or what? Drunken Irishman Aug 2019 #94

Agree! If it were an honest on the ground report of all or many, it would have had good & bad for Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #85

Nice to see! InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2019 #61

I have never said anything negative about Cha Aug 2019 #76

It isn't the positive piece or poll from any candidate it is the urge by some to go out of their way still_one Aug 2019 #78

I mean, the article puts down Biden in its headline...It's not just a positive Warren piece. Drunken Irishman Aug 2019 #95

I agree, and my statement was meant to apply to both because they do, I should have still_one Aug 2019 #99

I have a subscription to the Globe Green Line Aug 2019 #7

WaPo wrote basically the same report BeyondGeography Aug 2019 #8

Biden does not get that kind of coverage...the media saves it for Warren and Harris... Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #15

There are a number of reporters who obviously can't stand Biden being the front-runner highplainsdem Aug 2019 #20

unskewing the news? bluewater Aug 2019 #27

Unscew this one from CNN then emulatorloo Aug 2019 #51

The news is what the news is bluewater Aug 2019 #54

Did I "unscew" the news? No, I posted a positive article. emulatorloo Aug 2019 #64

'No one is "unscewing" the news in the thread.' You missed a post then? Read this... bluewater Aug 2019 #69

Pointing out bias isn't "unscewing". Did you forget "But her emails!" In the NYT emulatorloo Aug 2019 #71

Claiming the Boston Globe and the Wahington Post are "biased" against Biden? bluewater Aug 2019 #73

This message was self-deleted by its author emulatorloo Aug 2019 #75

It isn't about this one article, it's about the Globe Green Line Aug 2019 #43

Yes they are...did you see who the authors are and the other stuff they wrote? Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #113

She is a very young 70; no one can deny that. cwydro Aug 2019 #18

Biden's a very young 76. I don't recall seeing any coverage of Warren jogging along a parade highplainsdem Aug 2019 #19

As of a month ago she had done 105 town halls BeyondGeography Aug 2019 #21

You're completely misrepresenting Biden's Marshalltown speech, which was on C-SPAN and was highplainsdem Aug 2019 #23

I guess this summary is all part of the anti-Biden media conspiracy BeyondGeography Aug 2019 #25

The WP never loved Joe Autumn Aug 2019 #26

Why don't you look at the video for yourself? And yes, that reviewer shows anti-Biden bias. highplainsdem Aug 2019 #28

There's a clip in the article which I saw BeyondGeography Aug 2019 #29

You should look at the entire speech. And btw, as far as that critic's bias highplainsdem Aug 2019 #40

Poor thing.. he sounds Jealous.. Biden Derangement Cha Aug 2019 #72

You're welcome, Cha! Yes, that critic does sound jealous. highplainsdem Aug 2019 #98

The video shows a very tired looking, flat sounding Joe. bluewater Aug 2019 #31

The C-SPAN video of the speech doesn't. highplainsdem Aug 2019 #41

He looks very very tired in that CSPAN video. bluewater Aug 2019 #45

He needs a couple Red Bulls and some 5-Hour Energy before he speaks. n/t zackymilly Aug 2019 #92

I understand it doesn't fit your narrative, but here's an interesting article from CNN emulatorloo Aug 2019 #52

My narrative? BeyondGeography Aug 2019 #56

Nonetheless the article is a positive one about Biden's connection w Iowa voters emulatorloo Aug 2019 #67

Lol, point to where anyone said that BeyondGeography Aug 2019 #68

Insinuations. Don't piss on my shoes and tell me it's raining. emulatorloo Aug 2019 #70

I recall the days when Republicans used to make fun of President Obama TexasTowelie Aug 2019 #107

Now that is an opinion post and shouldn't even be posted but...yeah this pretty much shows that Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #115

Thanks for the multiple kicks BeyondGeography Aug 2019 #116

Thx for the links!! Mr. Biden is doing a great job. More let's pile on the leader Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #35

I didn't say anything about Alzheimer's, did I? cwydro Aug 2019 #22

As I said in my message, others here promoting Warren instead of Biden have brought up highplainsdem Aug 2019 #24

Why the AGEIST comment? "are all in very good shape for their age" bluewater Aug 2019 #39

Please try reading more carefully -- it was cwydro who brought up age. highplainsdem Aug 2019 #42

"are all in very good shape for their age." bluewater Aug 2019 #46

Lol! cwydro Aug 2019 #49

Okay. The article in the OP brought up age. Your reply 18 also brought up age and I responded to highplainsdem Aug 2019 #50

I never said Biden is old, and Warren isn't. Just stop. cwydro Aug 2019 #59

RW media have double-downed on the ageist meme that originated from Trump's "full deck" tweet. Princetonian Aug 2019 #30

"I love Joe Biden, but ... Politicians have shelf lives, and he's expired." KPN Aug 2019 #32

Well if Biden isn't the nominee then Trump wins IMHO...no one else will beat him. Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #118

I am so impressed by her wit, her intelligence, her heart, and her theophilus Aug 2019 #33

i am sick of reading the "Joe Biden stumbles " How about the Trump stumbles and lies. katmondoo Aug 2019 #36

let's go Joe ! stonecutter357 Aug 2019 #38

He is every bit as capable as she is. Plus he has far more experience. nolabear Aug 2019 #48

Exactly. ucrdem Aug 2019 #63

Keep in mind that Warren also "stumbled" at the start of her campaign ucrdem Aug 2019 #62

Actually, if you google any candidate's name followed by the word "stumbles" you're likely to highplainsdem Aug 2019 #65

LOL. Yep. Stories that never grow old. ucrdem Aug 2019 #66

somebody is determined to take out the one polling most likely to beat Trump. nt Grasswire2 Aug 2019 #80

Yes. Makes one wonder...certainly does not help ensure we see the back of Trump. emmaverybo Aug 2019 #103

The poll they site...she is losing by nine points...and that is Iowa only...she is losing in Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #112