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Hortensis

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12. Sanders and Trump are both right then?

Wed Aug 14, 2019, 11:04 AM

Aug 2019

BOTH Sanders and Trump have been using this particular "conspiracy" story, and various others, to deceive and stoke anger and distrust in their bases for the past 5 years.

They did this even while corrupt and venal media created viable candidacies for both and while many among the MSM promoted them both for the purpose of putting Republicans in control of our nation.

And that's truth neither Sanders nor Trump will ever admit, maybe cannot even to themselves.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Why Bernie Sanders Is Absolutely Correct About the Washington Post--and Corporate Media Overall [View all] Uncle Joe Aug 2019 OP

He already walked back his comments. TwilightZone Aug 2019 #1

He didn't "walk back," Bernie clarified. Uncle Joe Aug 2019 #2

"corporate media conglomerate talking point" TwilightZone Aug 2019 #3

+1000. ehrnst Aug 2019 #31

+1 betsuni Aug 2019 #62

Bernie has a bone to pick with WaPo ehrnst Aug 2019 #36

"Clarified"? Here are the two statements: George II Aug 2019 #59

LOL millionaires and billionaires ! stonecutter357 Aug 2019 #4

Even Sanders disagrees with this article. SouthernProgressive Aug 2019 #5

Perhaps you have a link to Bernie disagreeing with this article? Uncle Joe Aug 2019 #6

The article and recent events speak for themselves. SouthernProgressive Aug 2019 #7

That's what I thought, you don't. Uncle Joe Aug 2019 #8

Trump calls it the Amazon Washington Post. TwilightZone Aug 2019 #10

Bernie hasn't backtracked from that point. Uncle Joe Aug 2019 #13

Trying to discredit WaPo didn't work for Nixon, and it won't work for Trump or Bernie. ehrnst Aug 2019 #28

Post removed Post removed Aug 2019 #33

They run a whole lot more 'negative stories' on Trump. Does that also 'discredit' WaPo? ehrnst Aug 2019 #40

Isn't that 16 in 16 thing an RT (Russia Today) talking point? George II Aug 2019 #58

It's a small group that feeds each other citations and talking points. ehrnst Aug 2019 #70

Unfortunately, it's become Bernie's talking point as well. ehrnst Aug 2019 #72

Link to Bernie walking back his hasty words: ehrnst Aug 2019 #23

Bernie "clarified" his position, he never said Bezos was on the phone Uncle Joe Aug 2019 #32

It seems that Bernie feels a need to do a lot of 'clarifying" of his statements after the fact. ehrnst Aug 2019 #35

So are you saying that Bernie made a gaffe? TexasTowelie Aug 2019 #49

I don't believe Bernie made a gaffe, he clarified his point of view because Uncle Joe Aug 2019 #53

If someone feels that it is necessary to clarify themselves, TexasTowelie Aug 2019 #55

By "corporate media" you mean any media that holds Sentor Sanders to account for his words? ehrnst Aug 2019 #73

Agreed. He did not rescind his statement so it is a clarification. MarcA Aug 2019 #57

"Knows which way the wind blows..."" ehrnst Aug 2019 #71

You are being naive. My statement was about the press. MarcA Aug 2019 #78

Marty Baron is the person that Bernie was targeting. I was being accurate. ehrnst Aug 2019 #79

Sounds walk-backy to me mcar Aug 2019 #34

I know - wouldn't he just repeat what he said if he wasn't backtracking? ehrnst Aug 2019 #43

Sanders voters apparently are the only ones who can see right through the media. Hoyt Aug 2019 #9

whining continues .... nt NYMinute Aug 2019 #11

Sanders and Trump are both right then? Hortensis Aug 2019 #12

It's "a long-standing strategy pioneered by conservatives" Me. Aug 2019 #14

+100. The various conspiracy theories Sanders Hortensis Aug 2019 #15

Too Bad For Them...I Have No Sympathy Me. Aug 2019 #17

:) Agree completely. Sanders has been an irritating gadfly Hortensis Aug 2019 #21

I Think That's The Kindest Post I've Ever Read Me. Aug 2019 #22

:) There but for the grace of god and genetic pairings... Hortensis Aug 2019 #30

+1 betsuni Aug 2019 #41

Going after Marty Baron's credibility because WaPo isn't fawning over you is really desperation.(nt) ehrnst Aug 2019 #27

Indeed! Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #52

Per Krystal Ball, The Bernie Bias Is Real corbettkroehler Aug 2019 #16

Thanks for the addition corbettkroehler. Uncle Joe Aug 2019 #18

My Pleasure - The Truth Will Set Bernie Free! corbettkroehler Aug 2019 #19

Goodness! That's a fool proof metric the media doesn't know about! ehrnst Aug 2019 #29

IOW, they ran out of stock because someone failed to keep their eyes on the ball. TexasTowelie Aug 2019 #51

Why Should We Believe 'The Hill' Pundit Krystal Ball Over Marty Baron? ehrnst Aug 2019 #26

Opinion: Bernie Sanders's real media problem Gothmog Aug 2019 #39

+10000. ehrnst Aug 2019 #44

Someone agrees with you: ehrnst Aug 2019 #74

One thing Murdoch editors agree on crazytown Aug 2019 #20

Precisely crazytown, Uncle Joe Aug 2019 #48

Certainly TYT knows who cuts their checks. ehrnst Aug 2019 #76

Bernie's walked back that statement since... Wisely so. ehrnst Aug 2019 #24

Marty Baron isn't a 'circus dog' and I'm thinking that the author of this article might be ehrnst Aug 2019 #25

Gratuitous link to last Friday's thread in LBN about this: mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2019 #77

Liberals defending the corporate media. Buzz cook Aug 2019 #37

I never thought I'd see liberals trash the free press when they fact checked a politician ehrnst Aug 2019 #45

The washington Post is not a respectable journalistic entity. Buzz cook Aug 2019 #60

"The washington Post is not a respectable journalistic entity." If not, then... TreasonousBastard Aug 2019 #63

common dreams, Jacobin , JI7 Aug 2019 #65

They are not news orgs, any more than FoxNews. They have a clear political bias/slant ehrnst Aug 2019 #69

Yeah, Pulitzer Prizes are given to bad journalists and news orgs ALL the time... ehrnst Aug 2019 #68

I couldn't agree more Buzz cook, well said. Uncle Joe Aug 2019 #47

Despite the inanity of your post, here's a friendly suggestion: OilemFirchen Aug 2019 #50

No. Buzz cook Aug 2019 #61

I've reported on Bernie Sanders for years. A free press won't give him what he wants. Gothmog Aug 2019 #38

For all of his Skidmore Aug 2019 #67

I hope BS will soon accept the consequences of his actions instead of blaming the media LanternWaste Aug 2019 #42

Sad - whether it be Trump or someone running as a Democrat.(nt) ehrnst Aug 2019 #46

Oh me too! Really tired 💤 of all the spin Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #54

commondreams...nt SidDithers Aug 2019 #56

Something something people spending their time looking for gaffs Lordquinton Aug 2019 #64

Stephen Colbert on Bernie: betsuni Aug 2019 #66

"Some people say that maybe if the system wasn't Hortensis Aug 2019 #75

Bernie himself stated that it wasn't "rigged," just "dumb." ehrnst Aug 2019 #80