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Hortensis

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4. Biden's fine, but there's a lot of delusion in these polls that's worrisome.
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 10:46 AM
Aug 2019

I've had the misfortune to live most of my life in conservative communities. Not planned, just happened. If I had it to do over again, we wouldn't have left West Hollywood until we moved to the PNW.

There's a great deal of distrust of Elizabeth Warren among moderate conservatives -- the ones we need to draw from. I believe she could overcome some of it with more exposure, but the right would be working to turn the distrust into a chasm and casting her as epitomizing everything they fear about the far left. I like a lot about her, but I do not expect to be able to vote for her and hope she will become an important part of our next government in a different powerful position.

As for Sanders, he IS what conservatives fear and despise in the far left. No misunderstanding. And what swiftboaters would do with the material in his background would make their scrabbling to create a scandal our of a home server look like a pathetic joke. In the real world, in the real existential election coming up, he'd drive the wobblies to the polls to vote against him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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Joe is definitely the most electable. Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #1
Yes Joe Biden is indeed the most well liked electable candidate Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #3
Actually the polls I've seen measuring candidate likeability do not support that thesis jcgoldie Aug 2019 #6
I call that wishful thinking...not polling. Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #12
Ahh jcgoldie Aug 2019 #14
WOAH! Warren looking strong! bluewater Aug 2019 #2
Biden's fine, but there's a lot of delusion in these polls that's worrisome. Hortensis Aug 2019 #4
I agree RhodeIslandOne Aug 2019 #19
Electability polls aren't worth much. Trump had a 60% unfavorable rating before 2016. yerop Aug 2019 #5
Polls that ask the public who THEY would vote for against Trump are valuable. But... thesquanderer Aug 2019 #7
Electability polls are important. No matter how much you might like a candidate who has highplainsdem Aug 2019 #11
I'm afraid you missed my point completely. thesquanderer Aug 2019 #15
I get your point, and noting just what they're measuring Hortensis Aug 2019 #20
I think people are more honest...some won't admit to say voting for Trump...studies have shown Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #13
People actually KNOW who they are likely to vote for. They have NO way of knowing... thesquanderer Aug 2019 #16
Great analysis! bluewater Aug 2019 #17
It is a way to get to what they really think...some are embarrassed to say who they are for. Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #21
let's go Joe ! stonecutter357 Aug 2019 #8
Slings and arrows of outrageous media falling flat. nt oasis Aug 2019 #9
But they're trying so hard! Cha Aug 2019 #18
K&R Scurrilous Aug 2019 #10
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