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ehrnst

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40. They run a whole lot more 'negative stories' on Trump. Does that also 'discredit' WaPo?
Wed Aug 14, 2019, 03:41 PM
Aug 2019

Trump seems to think so.

https://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/media/301285-media-and-trump-bias-not-even-trying-to-hide-it-anymore

About credibility... An author who runs an org that harvests emails (which are used to ask for donations to support the org) from petitions to various media outlets to "Stop the media bias against Bernie" has a financial stake in getting people to believe that the media has a bias against "progressives."



Commondreams is a lefty 50c(3), and as such is not constrained by journalistic standards.

"FAIR is the national progressive media watchdog group, challenging corporate media bias, spin and misinformation."

As if their mission statement would allow them to say anything positive about WaPo.... That would be like expecting FoxNews to say anything positive about FAIR, even though FoxNews has "Fair and Balanced" in it's tagline.

And the FAIR 'analyst" who is also a Commondreams contributor (not mentioned in the commondreams article) gets another click, with that cite doesn't he?

This exerpt from the article you reference is a shining example of nuetral, unbiased data driven research, isn't it?

Baron, Sullivan, Cillizza and countless other employees of corporate media are well-paid while publicly maintaining their denial in the service of corporate power. So, with the virtues of the Washington Post on parade, Emperor Bezos must be decked out in the journalistic finery of his new clothes, even when the self-interest and implications of billionaire leverage over media are stark naked.


Then again, your opinion of what is "unbiased" differs greatly from the journalistic community. If you were interested in unbiased media statistics and criticism, you'd be reading Poynter for your information.

Now as to the "negative stories" that FAIR (also not without bias) lists (from the height of primary season back in 2016, interestingly, it doesn't have any such stats on negative stories about HRC. An actual unbiased research org would have those stats. I guess negative stories about politicians they don't like isn't "bias" ) it seems they think that any story that doesn't fawn on Sanders, but simply reports what he said to be "negative."

I can't find a negative about Sanders in these stories (YOU referenced) they branded "NEGATIVE" - maybe, since you have thoroughly checked this out and confirmed that it's actually accurate, what they see here:

Why Obama says bank reform is a success but Bernie Sanders says it’s a failure
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/03/07/doddfrank0308/

OMG - a fact check of Bernie's numbers to the actual numbers of those in prison, and stating that some of this is decided at the state level, not the federal level. That's just disrespectful to fact check Bernie! It implies he might be mistaken!

Bernie Sanders pledges the U.S. won’t be No. 1 in incarceration. He’ll need to release lots of criminals.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/03/06/bernie-sanders-pledges-the-u-s-wont-be-no-1-in-incarceration-hell-need-to-release-lots-of-criminals/

More statement of fact - I assume that WaPo was supposed to quash any mention of the NRA tweeting praising a candidate, because it doesn't flatter a candidate? Perhaps they're also supposed to ignore it when David Duke praises Trump? Well, Trump would say so..

The NRA Just Praised Bernie Sanders — and Did Him No Favors in Doing So
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/03/07/the-nra-just-praised-bernie-sanders-and-did-him-no-favors-in-doing-so/


And the most partisan senator of 2015 is … Bernie Sanders!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/03/07/and-the-most-partisan-senator-of-2015-is-bernie-sanders/

Is saying that Bernie sided with Democrats most of all a negative? I guess if you didn't bother to read past the headline, or you hate Democrats, then calling this article a 'negative' would make sense - especially since "bi-partisan" is a dirty word for many Sanders supporters...

The index measured how many times a senator sponsored or co-sponsored a bill with the other side. The rankings mean Sanders almost exclusively signs onto bills with Democrats, and Cruz with Republicans. (Sanders is technically an independent, but for this purpose, he was categorized as a Democrat, the party with which he caucuses.) The other senator still in the race for president, Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), ranked 28th most bipartisan.


I guess pointing out what they considered to be negative in all the articles would have been too much work, and really, they know their audience isn't looking for facts - just confirmation of their bias.

And they think that other journalists confirming what Marty Baron said as some kind of 'proof' that Baron is lying...

Bernie's media problem is Bernie's words and Bernie's actions being subject to the same fact checking and the same followup questioning that other candidates get. He wants to be exempt from this reality of campaigning, as though he's above it. He's convinced people that by virtue of him saying something, it's fact. And his die hard fans oblige happily - and quash any dissent or any criticism, no matter how fact based reputable the source, as "attacks."

Trumps fans do the same for Trump.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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He already walked back his comments. TwilightZone Aug 2019 #1
He didn't "walk back," Bernie clarified. Uncle Joe Aug 2019 #2
"corporate media conglomerate talking point" TwilightZone Aug 2019 #3
+1000. ehrnst Aug 2019 #31
+1 betsuni Aug 2019 #62
Bernie has a bone to pick with WaPo ehrnst Aug 2019 #36
"Clarified"? Here are the two statements: George II Aug 2019 #59
LOL millionaires and billionaires ! stonecutter357 Aug 2019 #4
Even Sanders disagrees with this article. SouthernProgressive Aug 2019 #5
Perhaps you have a link to Bernie disagreeing with this article? Uncle Joe Aug 2019 #6
The article and recent events speak for themselves. SouthernProgressive Aug 2019 #7
That's what I thought, you don't. Uncle Joe Aug 2019 #8
Trump calls it the Amazon Washington Post. TwilightZone Aug 2019 #10
Bernie hasn't backtracked from that point. Uncle Joe Aug 2019 #13
Trying to discredit WaPo didn't work for Nixon, and it won't work for Trump or Bernie. ehrnst Aug 2019 #28
Post removed Post removed Aug 2019 #33
They run a whole lot more 'negative stories' on Trump. Does that also 'discredit' WaPo? ehrnst Aug 2019 #40
Isn't that 16 in 16 thing an RT (Russia Today) talking point? George II Aug 2019 #58
It's a small group that feeds each other citations and talking points. ehrnst Aug 2019 #70
Unfortunately, it's become Bernie's talking point as well. ehrnst Aug 2019 #72
Link to Bernie walking back his hasty words: ehrnst Aug 2019 #23
Bernie "clarified" his position, he never said Bezos was on the phone Uncle Joe Aug 2019 #32
It seems that Bernie feels a need to do a lot of 'clarifying" of his statements after the fact. ehrnst Aug 2019 #35
So are you saying that Bernie made a gaffe? TexasTowelie Aug 2019 #49
I don't believe Bernie made a gaffe, he clarified his point of view because Uncle Joe Aug 2019 #53
If someone feels that it is necessary to clarify themselves, TexasTowelie Aug 2019 #55
By "corporate media" you mean any media that holds Sentor Sanders to account for his words? ehrnst Aug 2019 #73
Agreed. He did not rescind his statement so it is a clarification. MarcA Aug 2019 #57
"Knows which way the wind blows..."" ehrnst Aug 2019 #71
You are being naive. My statement was about the press. MarcA Aug 2019 #78
Marty Baron is the person that Bernie was targeting. I was being accurate. ehrnst Aug 2019 #79
Sounds walk-backy to me mcar Aug 2019 #34
I know - wouldn't he just repeat what he said if he wasn't backtracking? ehrnst Aug 2019 #43
Sanders voters apparently are the only ones who can see right through the media. Hoyt Aug 2019 #9
whining continues .... nt NYMinute Aug 2019 #11
Sanders and Trump are both right then? Hortensis Aug 2019 #12
It's "a long-standing strategy pioneered by conservatives" Me. Aug 2019 #14
+100. The various conspiracy theories Sanders Hortensis Aug 2019 #15
Too Bad For Them...I Have No Sympathy Me. Aug 2019 #17
:) Agree completely. Sanders has been an irritating gadfly Hortensis Aug 2019 #21
I Think That's The Kindest Post I've Ever Read Me. Aug 2019 #22
:) There but for the grace of god and genetic pairings... Hortensis Aug 2019 #30
+1 betsuni Aug 2019 #41
Going after Marty Baron's credibility because WaPo isn't fawning over you is really desperation.(nt) ehrnst Aug 2019 #27
Indeed! Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #52
Per Krystal Ball, The Bernie Bias Is Real corbettkroehler Aug 2019 #16
Thanks for the addition corbettkroehler. Uncle Joe Aug 2019 #18
My Pleasure - The Truth Will Set Bernie Free! corbettkroehler Aug 2019 #19
Goodness! That's a fool proof metric the media doesn't know about! ehrnst Aug 2019 #29
IOW, they ran out of stock because someone failed to keep their eyes on the ball. TexasTowelie Aug 2019 #51
Why Should We Believe 'The Hill' Pundit Krystal Ball Over Marty Baron? ehrnst Aug 2019 #26
Opinion: Bernie Sanders's real media problem Gothmog Aug 2019 #39
+10000. ehrnst Aug 2019 #44
Someone agrees with you: ehrnst Aug 2019 #74
One thing Murdoch editors agree on crazytown Aug 2019 #20
Precisely crazytown, Uncle Joe Aug 2019 #48
Certainly TYT knows who cuts their checks. ehrnst Aug 2019 #76
Bernie's walked back that statement since... Wisely so. ehrnst Aug 2019 #24
Marty Baron isn't a 'circus dog' and I'm thinking that the author of this article might be ehrnst Aug 2019 #25
Gratuitous link to last Friday's thread in LBN about this: mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2019 #77
Liberals defending the corporate media. Buzz cook Aug 2019 #37
I never thought I'd see liberals trash the free press when they fact checked a politician ehrnst Aug 2019 #45
The washington Post is not a respectable journalistic entity. Buzz cook Aug 2019 #60
"The washington Post is not a respectable journalistic entity." If not, then... TreasonousBastard Aug 2019 #63
common dreams, Jacobin , JI7 Aug 2019 #65
They are not news orgs, any more than FoxNews. They have a clear political bias/slant ehrnst Aug 2019 #69
Yeah, Pulitzer Prizes are given to bad journalists and news orgs ALL the time... ehrnst Aug 2019 #68
I couldn't agree more Buzz cook, well said. Uncle Joe Aug 2019 #47
Despite the inanity of your post, here's a friendly suggestion: OilemFirchen Aug 2019 #50
No. Buzz cook Aug 2019 #61
I've reported on Bernie Sanders for years. A free press won't give him what he wants. Gothmog Aug 2019 #38
For all of his Skidmore Aug 2019 #67
I hope BS will soon accept the consequences of his actions instead of blaming the media LanternWaste Aug 2019 #42
Sad - whether it be Trump or someone running as a Democrat.(nt) ehrnst Aug 2019 #46
Oh me too! Really tired 💤 of all the spin Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #54
commondreams...nt SidDithers Aug 2019 #56
Something something people spending their time looking for gaffs Lordquinton Aug 2019 #64
Stephen Colbert on Bernie: betsuni Aug 2019 #66
"Some people say that maybe if the system wasn't Hortensis Aug 2019 #75
Bernie himself stated that it wasn't "rigged," just "dumb." ehrnst Aug 2019 #80
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