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lapucelle

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73. So you were both wrong about the facts on which the concern is based?

Reply to liskddksil (Reply #70)

Thu Aug 15, 2019, 01:37 PM

Aug 2019

Caveat lector.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Biden allies float scaling back events to limit gaffes [View all] left-of-center2012 Aug 2019 OP

and which so-called "allies" are those who would spew this to the media? still_one Aug 2019 #1

Exactly. These aren't "allies" of Biden's. They're anonymous critics trying to hurt him. highplainsdem Aug 2019 #4

Sounds more like those "great" Biden allies David Sirota and Briahna Joy Gray still_one Aug 2019 #14

winner ucrdem Aug 2019 #74

+1000 nt NYMinute Aug 2019 #83

They might also be staff trying to stop a policy they think is a mistake. brooklynite Aug 2019 #84

This message was self-deleted by its author still_one Aug 2019 #94

Exactly FBaggins Aug 2019 #5

If he's more gaffe prone later in the day, they could limit events to, say, 9 am to 2 pm. thesquanderer Aug 2019 #21

"The Hill floats that Biden's allie's float..." lapucelle Aug 2019 #39

My first reaction.. with so-called allies Cha Aug 2019 #50

We're still talking about "gaffes"??? Dennis Donovan Aug 2019 #2

That's the ticket to win. Don't campaign. Autumn Aug 2019 #3

How many other candidates is the front-runner? Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #6

He is currently the front runner, no denying that. But IMO he won't remain the front runner Autumn Aug 2019 #9

IMO he will remain the front-runner and so can afford to take time off if he chooses. Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #12

You go with that. That's the ticket to win, just campaign once in a while and take a week off when Autumn Aug 2019 #13

Can you please point out in the article where it states that he is tired? I hope that isn't a Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #18

I don't need to point out anything to you. Maybe you should read the article Autumn Aug 2019 #26

What made you form your own opinion about him being tired? George II Aug 2019 #106

BASHING Democrats is very popular with some, isnt it. Eliot Rosewater Aug 2019 #127

Just ask Hillary who basically took all of August 2016 off to go fundraise liskddksil Aug 2019 #24

well...yeah qazplm135 Aug 2019 #34

Yes. Don't want a repeat of that. liskddksil Aug 2019 #36

In what way is it "just like that"? It's currently August 2019 lapucelle Aug 2019 #38

seems pretty obvious qazplm135 Aug 2019 #40

Wait...what? That concern isn't "obvious" based on a timeline that's a year off. lapucelle Aug 2019 #48

the concern qazplm135 Aug 2019 #60

"Flawed candidate"? Wasn't that a right wing/Republican talking point during the 2016 GE? lapucelle Aug 2019 #68

oh good grief qazplm135 Aug 2019 #71

Every candidate has flaws. (n/t) thesquanderer Aug 2019 #93

That is indeed true. lapucelle Aug 2019 #97

There's nothing like that in the article, unless I missed it? George II Aug 2019 #108

this wasn't a response to the article qazplm135 Aug 2019 #109

That's all uninformed speculation on their part. George II Aug 2019 #111

Yes, and the deplorable gaffe was much earlier treestar Aug 2019 #61

Wouldn't that mean that those who are concerned are doubly wrong lapucelle Aug 2019 #66

It was actually September 9th 2016. I'll fix my original post nt liskddksil Aug 2019 #70

Could have sworn it was earlier in the campaign treestar Aug 2019 #72

So you were both wrong about the facts on which the concern is based? lapucelle Aug 2019 #73

Yes, I am surprised to find it was that late treestar Aug 2019 #75

No, my premise is that Hillary spent the whole month of August 2016 liskddksil Aug 2019 #77

How does that premise support the claim that what a candidate is doing 15 months before lapucelle Aug 2019 #81

If a candidate's team is having their candidate do less events because they are gaffe prone at this liskddksil Aug 2019 #82

What does that have to do with your August 2016 comparison? lapucelle Aug 2019 #90

Its a primary election right now and I am trying to prevent what happened last time from happening liskddksil Aug 2019 #99

"I am trying to prevent what happened last time from happening lapucelle Aug 2019 #100

Her deplorable comment wasn't considered a "gaffe" by Democrats, only republicans. We all.... George II Aug 2019 #112

I defninitely agreed and applauded hurl Aug 2019 #126

What's your problem with Hillary Clinton? She ran an almost flawless campaign, won... George II Aug 2019 #113

Yes many other factors were at play, Comey, Russia etc. liskddksil Aug 2019 #115

You said she spent the whole month of August attending fundraisers - that was entirely false..... George II Aug 2019 #118

Do you have data in support of your claim? lapucelle Aug 2019 #120

Followup regarding Pennsylvania. Here's a population map of the state: George II Aug 2019 #121

From "Identity Crisis, The 2016 Presidential Campaign and the Battle for the Meaning of America": betsuni Aug 2019 #129

Thank you so much for posting this, George. betsuni Aug 2019 #117

I'm just SO tired of people bashing Democrats for "not doing anything" when they did more.... George II Aug 2019 #119

Same old stuff. betsuni Aug 2019 #124

Her term deplorables was not what put the dotard back in the race. She won fair and Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #47

Plus Biden's words will be scrutinized even more treestar Aug 2019 #62

Yes, they will. IMHO Mr. Biden is being judged (as should be with all our candidates) by his high Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #69

Wrong, she went right on the campaign trail a few days after the end of the Convention on July 28. George II Aug 2019 #107

I seem to remember Romney tried that (took time off to vacay on his boat) when he ran against Obama. in2herbs Aug 2019 #91

Where did you read that the Democratic candidate took a "vacay" on a boat in August 2016? lapucelle Aug 2019 #123

Dukakis had a 17-point lead a few months before the election in 1988. NYC Liberal Aug 2019 #16

No where in the post does it say he was vacationing because he was tired Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #28

Bernie Sanders took a vacation to the Vatican during the 2016 primary. SouthernProgressive Aug 2019 #10

He attended a conference there and gave a speech, and his trip to Rome lasted 24 hours. Autumn Aug 2019 #15

I simply laugh at the "gaffe" people. SouthernProgressive Aug 2019 #17

yes indeed. .Whacking away at mr. Biden has not shown to be a + strategy Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #25

Post removed Post removed Aug 2019 #29

You seem to support him in a very stealthy manner. SouthernProgressive Aug 2019 #32

Thx for that southernprogressive! Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #52

and they aren't because he is tired treestar Aug 2019 #76

All this concern and hand wringing over some honest mis-speaks aka-chmeee Aug 2019 #101

Possibly the same candidates who were in first place prior to even announcing a candidacy. LanternWaste Aug 2019 #23

In other words Joe Biden. He will eventually have to be his self, that why the gaffes. Autumn Aug 2019 #31

Meh Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #54

Why can't they take a vacation this early? treestar Aug 2019 #55

Many do NYMinute Aug 2019 #85

He's not taking a week off, and it certainly isn't "during" the primaries, which don't even start... George II Aug 2019 #110

And those allies snowybirdie Aug 2019 #7

I was listening to Paul Begala on the HACKS ON TAP podcast... brooklynite Aug 2019 #8

That's an interesting take on it, worth thinking about. (n/t) thesquanderer Aug 2019 #20

And I thought nominating and electing W loyalsister Aug 2019 #136

Is Biden incapable of learning to control what comes out of his mouth? elocs Aug 2019 #11

What does one thing have to do with the other? thesquanderer Aug 2019 #19

As a health professional that once worked with those that stutter, the 2 are sometimes connected Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #33

In that case it should help to think twice, speak once, elocs Aug 2019 #43

It has nothing to do with how you are framing it... seriously Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #65

Pretty simple, it's about determination to overcome a personal problem. elocs Aug 2019 #35

IMHO that kind of personal determination is a quality to be envied Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #41

I believe it is extremely hard to stop yourself from doing something when... thesquanderer Aug 2019 #79

This message was self-deleted by its author pinkstarburst Aug 2019 #103

I see you are new here, so welcome, but you will find here at DU elocs Aug 2019 #104

How dare the left have opinions BlueWI Aug 2019 #125

Welcome to DU! Many of us, here, feel as you do and we appreciate your voice of reason... Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #105

And this is supposed to be the safe choice? smh nt liskddksil Aug 2019 #22

NEXT: Concerned Allies Urge Biden to Drop Out dalton99a Aug 2019 #27

We need to hammer Trump not our candidates. Joe Biden can handle the presidency, period. 33taw Aug 2019 #30

If Biden can't handle and address these problems now, Trump won't give him a pass. elocs Aug 2019 #37

Wrong. Trump has been on the war path towards Warren R B Garr Aug 2019 #44

Trump will hammer everyone about something. I won't follow his lead. 33taw Aug 2019 #46

Who's hiding? Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #49

He's handling them fine. He does not have to address what he's gaslighted for. Will just lead to emmaverybo Aug 2019 #58

Who is Trump to get to decide who gets a pass? treestar Aug 2019 #59

It is fake bullshit made up .... nothing to handle and folks get it based on polls...I am convinced Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #114

If Biden is the nominee we will see non-stop ads of his "gaffes" while the media will allow Trump to jalan48 Aug 2019 #42

EXACTLY Grasswire2 Aug 2019 #45

Without a doubt. dalton99a Aug 2019 #51

We will see that regardless of who the nominee is. 33taw Aug 2019 #53

I think the gaffe thing will be specific to Biden. No doubt there will be a different approach jalan48 Aug 2019 #63

Yup! Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #67

And that will happen no matter who is the nominee. Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #116

Not good at all treestar Aug 2019 #56

This is nothing new. We've known all along that he is gaffe prone. Either we're ok with that... thesquanderer Aug 2019 #98

Russia in action. Dream Girl Aug 2019 #57

It has been said before but The Hill is owned by a Chumpanzee. Princetonian Aug 2019 #64

Well, Krystal Ball of The Hill is certainly getting LOTS of play here on DU... ehrnst Aug 2019 #78

So you're saying the article is false? brooklynite Aug 2019 #86

"Some proof would be nice" that it is true. It's a hit piece with anonymous sources. Princetonian Aug 2019 #88

Would be disappointed if he cut back appearances for any reason. Hoyt Aug 2019 #80

The presidency won't wait loyalsister Aug 2019 #137

Biden's so called "gaffes" are endearing NYMinute Aug 2019 #87

Your candidate has a habit of making them too and he's relatively young. Princetonian Aug 2019 #89

It works like this NYMinute Aug 2019 #92

+1,000,000 Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #95

Nailed it! NT emmaverybo Aug 2019 #102

Not a good idea. Mike 03 Aug 2019 #96

This is disqualifying Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2019 #122

bwahahahahaha!!!! George II Aug 2019 #128

Some are saying... GulfCoast66 Aug 2019 #130

Which allies? The author never names a single person. MineralMan Aug 2019 #131

I was going to ask that too, but since you did first, I'll just say ditto. cwydro Aug 2019 #132

Well, here's a Wikipedia article about a book by that author: MineralMan Aug 2019 #134

Ah, interesting. cwydro Aug 2019 #135

Sounds like BS to me. LongtimeAZDem Aug 2019 #133

What does Bernie Sanders have to do with this? MineralMan Aug 2019 #138

Many livelihoods depend on Joe's gaffes. Please think of the children! ucrdem Aug 2019 #139

you see... myohmy2 Aug 2019 #140