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10. you're not expressing that opinion in a vacuum

Sat Aug 17, 2019, 02:26 PM

Aug 2019

...it's an open room, and only supporters here.

but, of course, I respect your right to hold and express your tactical view. Like I said, much easier course to advocate when your guy has been leading in the polls since he announced.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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The Odds Against a Current Candidate Who Is Polling under 5% Are Very High [View all] MineralMan Aug 2019 OP

I think calling for candidates to drop out on this forum is in bad taste, bad politics bigtree Aug 2019 #1

As always, it's my opinion. MineralMan Aug 2019 #7

you're not expressing that opinion in a vacuum bigtree Aug 2019 #10

Agreed. Some people have the opinion that drump and putin MarcA Aug 2019 #15

Rude! Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #30

Well, I have nothing to do with how Joe Biden is doing. MineralMan Aug 2019 #16

people are still advocating for the issues, interests and concerns they want candidates to represent bigtree Aug 2019 #21

Depends on view of politics DownriverDem Aug 2019 #20

Hickenlooper looks like a lock bigtree Aug 2019 #22

This also applies to Gabbard then. She is listed as a Democrat R B Garr Aug 2019 #66

she should continue her campaign bigtree Aug 2019 #71

Except I don't think Harris is running for VP, either. I've heard R B Garr Aug 2019 #74

Well, Harris would be foolish to say she was running for VP MineralMan Aug 2019 #84

+1 Joe941 Aug 2019 #8

Polls shouldn't decide elections. gtar100 Aug 2019 #56

What's the big hurry? Let them decide. Let the voters decide. dalton99a Aug 2019 #2

What you are suggesting will happen naturally, on its own calguy Aug 2019 #3

You may be right because there are just so many candidates this year. But I have to go back... EarnestPutz Aug 2019 #4

I remember that. I was in high school. yardwork Aug 2019 #69

It's summer! Lots of people are taking a break floppyboo Aug 2019 #5

Most voters, even primary voters, are still not paying that much attention--especially since it's tblue37 Aug 2019 #6

'under 5%' ? crazytown Aug 2019 #9

Yes, under 5%. I chose that number deliberately. MineralMan Aug 2019 #17

The current size of the field is precisely why you might be wrong. Garrett78 Aug 2019 #11

right, but who will get those candidates' supporters? bigtree Aug 2019 #12

The bottom dozen don't have enough supporters to make a difference, except in that... Garrett78 Aug 2019 #23

and will loosen funds bigtree Aug 2019 #26

Here's a peek at how that may play out Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #55

Gabbard's purpose is to cause trouble. yardwork Aug 2019 #70

You could sort of say this about a couple other R B Garr Aug 2019 #82

It is early enough for those currently high to stumble aand one or more who are low to rise karynnj Aug 2019 #13

The other candidates have a lot to offer to the conversation Merlot Aug 2019 #14

Good point! "In 2016 we had the candidate pretty much decided for us." Chemisse Aug 2019 #65

99% certain... under 5%... jcgoldie Aug 2019 #18

It's completely my opinion. MineralMan Aug 2019 #19

I 100% agree with your opinion - makes a lot of sense. Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #24

This message was self-deleted by its author bluewater Aug 2019 #32

Thank you mineral man.. if everyone would point out that what they are post is there opinion Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #57

Surely you jest mtnsnake Aug 2019 #25

No, I don't jest. MineralMan Aug 2019 #27

Thing is, none of our candidates are appearing to be THE magic bullet yet. mtnsnake Aug 2019 #31

Hardly kurtcagle Aug 2019 #64

There's some truth in what you're saying, but... Garrett78 Aug 2019 #28

"the size of the field prevents candidates from developing greater name recognition" mtnsnake Aug 2019 #33

That's contradictory. They simply aren't going to develop greater name recognition... Garrett78 Aug 2019 #35

The DNC has little to do with the primary races. MineralMan Aug 2019 #75

A quibble... spooky3 Aug 2019 #29

I disagree (with backup from 538). At this point in 1991 and 1975 both Clinton and Carter were Persondem Aug 2019 #34

It's early still qazplm135 Aug 2019 #36

More people might pay attention if the field was smaller. Garrett78 Aug 2019 #37

No they wouldn't qazplm135 Aug 2019 #39

Many won't pay attention until next year and I'm not saying we'd see huge shifts... Garrett78 Aug 2019 #42

if this were 1991 qazplm135 Aug 2019 #45

Apples and oranges. The field was considerably smaller. Garrett78 Aug 2019 #47

not really qazplm135 Aug 2019 #48

I didn't say it prohibits anything, but it does make it much less likely. Garrett78 Aug 2019 #51

Thank you for such a fact filled informative post. bluewater Aug 2019 #38

Well said and spot on. n/t mtnsnake Aug 2019 #40

So how did Bill Clinton win then? qazplm135 Aug 2019 #41

Is it January already? could have fooled me question everything Aug 2019 #43

"See you in January" bigtree Aug 2019 #49

That's not really an accurate description, though. nt R B Garr Aug 2019 #67

+10000 Celerity Aug 2019 #50

This is the danger for those who post frequently and attempt to be provocateurs True Dough Aug 2019 #61

which one is the provocateur? nt R B Garr Aug 2019 #77

History says this is wrong Bradshaw3 Aug 2019 #44

Thank You jcgoldie Aug 2019 #73

Rec. cwydro Aug 2019 #46

True. Many need to seek other Democratic political opportunities. democratisphere Aug 2019 #52

lots of data out there from experts says buttigieg still is a serious possibility. so no. Kurt V. Aug 2019 #53

I am eager for a smaller field... VarryOn Aug 2019 #54

This is an ugly fact, so read at your own risk-- dawg day Aug 2019 #58

Yeah thats what I was thinking about reading the OP jcgoldie Aug 2019 #72

There is no Trump in our field and even if there was Funtatlaguy Aug 2019 #76

Besides that, Trump didn't enter the race until June 16, 2015. Garrett78 Aug 2019 #78

Also his biggest challenge at the end near the R convention was ted Cruz ! lunasun Aug 2019 #81

Lesser candidate with a strong idea or focus can be helpful in shaping the discourse-- dawg day Aug 2019 #59

All of those issues would still be getting discussed if the field was cut to, say, 8 candidates. Garrett78 Aug 2019 #60

Exactly-- the candidates in the lead can't be single issue-- dawg day Aug 2019 #62

I love it, one day kacekwl Aug 2019 #63

Agreed, reduce some of the circular firing squad. The debates R B Garr Aug 2019 #68

I'm with Bernie. James48 Aug 2019 #79

OK. That's not what this thread is about, though. MineralMan Aug 2019 #80

Well, IMO, I don't think the party did itself any favors by having very limited presidential fields Midwestern Democrat Aug 2019 #83