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107. Why? Do you believe Trump can make a better case for

Tue Aug 20, 2019, 06:17 PM

Aug 2019

Predatory capitalism in the debates than Warren can make for HEALTHY capitalism that benefits ALL Americans? You may know she taught this subject for years, which is how Obama heard of her and formed the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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No Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren. We need a moderate, South Florida Democrats tell their party. [View all] elleng Aug 2019 OP

Establishment says we need more establishment. Voltaire2 Aug 2019 #1

Or people who work elections knows what it takes to win purple or red states...have you looked at Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #4

From the first line. Voltaire2 Aug 2019 #8

And you doubt their experience? Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #16

They have a lot of experience running Voltaire2 Aug 2019 #162

I too would be skeptical if a pilot told me that MS Flight Simulator was not good experience LanternWaste Aug 2019 #53

But ... but... flying a drone is as good as flying an Airbus A380 NYMinute Aug 2019 #79

They know their electorate better than anyone on DU nt NYMinute Aug 2019 #73

Oh yeah? Like designing non-butterfly ballots? sharedvalues Aug 2019 #11

Ballots have nothing to do with maps...the electoral college, Senate map and state maps show Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #22

They let the Republican Party fake rioters delisen Aug 2019 #24

The Brooks Brothers riot. comradebillyboy Aug 2019 #40

That's the One! delisen Aug 2019 #57

Yup, Eko Aug 2019 #64

Bush stole the 2000 election and FL election Dems didn't do enough to stop it sharedvalues Aug 2019 #137

an a major reason we lost that blue wall DonCoquixote Aug 2019 #28

Wasnt the person fired? Eko Aug 2019 #65

because she who was fired DonCoquixote Aug 2019 #89

I call bullshit...it nice to blame her but not so...and we run the risk of losing it again with the Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #169

"Establishment Establishment Establishment". Cha Aug 2019 #27

They got us where we are now, didn't they? 2020Junker Aug 2019 #36

They sure sound nervous, too BeyondGeography Aug 2019 #41

They couldn't even deliver their own state in '16 2020Junker Aug 2019 #43

Just because the "establishment" couldn't win in '16 Eko Aug 2019 #66

No, it doesn't. 2020Junker Aug 2019 #78

Well, their argument fits the polls right now so they have a better argument accoring to the data. Eko Aug 2019 #86

Your own links undercut the argument 2020Junker Aug 2019 #93

Warren gained 8 points in one month? Eko Aug 2019 #96

Your links showed two polls 2020Junker Aug 2019 #99

Yes they were different polls. Eko Aug 2019 #100

Not really 2020Junker Aug 2019 #102

Not really what? Biden increased 9 points using your math. Eko Aug 2019 #106

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2019 #164

But Biden is in a better position nationwide now. Eko Aug 2019 #111

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2019 #165

What is really interesting, Eko Aug 2019 #119

If you have some newer polls Eko Aug 2019 #103

You are entitled to your opinion... everyone has one Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #97

It's not my OP 2020Junker Aug 2019 #101

No one is speaking of nonsensical twitter links. The posters here are giving merit to what they are Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #109

If we reject the lawn mower to mow our lawn... LanternWaste Aug 2019 #54

No, we hire different lawn mowers 2020Junker Aug 2019 #55

The sad part of all this and the reason I think we wont ultimately survive is that Eliot Rosewater Aug 2019 #135

"They" meaning the Dems? If so, how...the state of FL isn't run by the dems Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #58

The people in the article 2020Junker Aug 2019 #59

Please see post #63 with link Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #67

He's in trouble everywhere 2020Junker Aug 2019 #81

I never said Biden was the only one that could beat dotard, I said he was the one in the lead. Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #94

'Establishment' Democrats as Agents of Change sheshe2 Aug 2019 #129

Yes they are, she! The "Establishment" that Cha Aug 2019 #134

Reality is not optional. The Electoral College is a reality. treestar Aug 2019 #76

I was sick of the establishment chefs with a license from the health department NYMinute Aug 2019 #82

I love Beto. He is going nowhere this time around. Time to plugged into reality redstateblues Aug 2019 #158

I'm with you... no more moderates!! We need a revolution in this country!! InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2019 #152

+1 Go Vols Aug 2019 #159

Here's the full list.. honest.abe Aug 2019 #2

Too narrow? As in appeals with in-depth plans that help Indians, women, gun-threatened kids, ancianita Aug 2019 #12

She will be deemed a socialist and they won't vote for her. Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #17

All I'm saying is that she can address their problems in ways that aren't socialist. She's got a ancianita Aug 2019 #26

Would dearly love to see a fe prez. Supported Hillary in 08 and again in 16. If she can do what Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #98

True. At the same time she's aware that they might act up like last time, and so she's playing ancianita Aug 2019 #127

Somebody floated the idea of Deval Patrick as a top VP pick. Said he and Biden are close Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #132

I can't say I like him. He's a manager at Bain Capital, and too conservative for me. Not saying he ancianita Aug 2019 #138

I did not know that about mr. Patrick, thx for informing Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #145

I don't really know him, but the few times I've heard him speak he's seemed too calculating. ancianita Aug 2019 #149

Just wanted to say too I think Jay Inslee is great! I sure wish his campaign would catch fire!! Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #133

I think she may have issues with certain voter blocks in particular black voters. honest.abe Aug 2019 #39

We'll see before she's up for nominee, I'm sure. There's no winning without the black vote. ancianita Aug 2019 #50

Agree.. thx for the informative post Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #146

you forgot one, Bullock Celerity Aug 2019 #23

Thanks fixed n/t. honest.abe Aug 2019 #35

yw Celerity Aug 2019 #125

Surprised Yang made their approved list. UBI is about as leftist as you can get. (n/t) thesquanderer Aug 2019 #44

Yeah, I think he gets a pass on the leftist issue since he is also an entrepreneur. honest.abe Aug 2019 #47

not if it is used to justify cuts to rest of the welfare state and ends up increasing poverty Celerity Aug 2019 #131

Those 'officials' do not speak for me. nt RandiFan1290 Aug 2019 #3

Dont ya just love it when they tell US what we need. vsrazdem Aug 2019 #5

Seriously!! We need Bernie, plain and simple!! InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2019 #153

Advice from Florida? Cartoonist Aug 2019 #6

That has worked well in the past - not. Nanjeanne Aug 2019 #7

Will we EVER learn?! InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2019 #155

Lol...more lack of cowbell please! BeyondGeography Aug 2019 #9

They're prominent Democrats who speak for a lot of Democrats. Former FLA Senate Democratic leader. highplainsdem Aug 2019 #10

Maybe they can focus on telling GOP base about Rupert Murdoch sharedvalues Aug 2019 #14

What makes you think they haven't? What makes you think Democratic leaders in the state highplainsdem Aug 2019 #19

It's well known that dotard's base isn't going to be swayed. Why would they waste their time Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #25

It's well known that half of the trump base is reachable sharedvalues Aug 2019 #141

They are correct. This is not a national election but an electoral college election and it will be Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #18

Elizabeth Warren can explain and sell healthy capitalism better than anyone blm Aug 2019 #32

If they're so smart, why did they fail in 2016? 2020Junker Aug 2019 #38

It's a republican held state... how would you expect that to happen. Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #63

That's exactly the point 2020Junker Aug 2019 #74

You are entitled to your opinion Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #95

Their county went for Hillary 2-1 over Trump Jose Garcia Aug 2019 #113

I find it interesting... sacto95834 Aug 2019 #90

When was the last time Florida secured its elections? delisen Aug 2019 #13

complete garbage! Joe941 Aug 2019 #15

You said it!! InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2019 #156

Here's another look as to why this might play out with a moderate, not only Fl but nation wide Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #20

more of the same? not_the_one Aug 2019 #21

Biden would NEVER pardon Rump, zero chance, if he did it would destroy our Party nt Celerity Aug 2019 #30

Your points are well taken. If only the young voters would vote.. their track record is terrible! Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #33

I am right there with you! Your post is right on. Thanks! n/t CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2019 #34

if you're worried about young voters.. nini Aug 2019 #108

lol. we live in a time of hyper partisanship. the *prominent group* needs to catch up or sit down. Kurt V. Aug 2019 #29

I am a Broward County Democrat and this Real Solutions Caucus(?) does not speak for me! FM123 Aug 2019 #31

It will be interesting to see if Warren can sucessfully comradebillyboy Aug 2019 #37

This message was self-deleted by its author Gothmog Aug 2019 #42

GOP data elleng Aug 2019 #49

Whatever happened to the conservative wing of the Democratic Party? bluedigger Aug 2019 #45

Are they fighting against Florida's crooked elections first and foremost? 50 Shades Of Blue Aug 2019 #46

I sure hope so! elleng Aug 2019 #48

valid point evertonfc Aug 2019 #51

Socialism polls badly and would kill a far left candidate Gothmog Aug 2019 #52

AstroTurf organization crafting false narrative Fiendish Thingy Aug 2019 #56

Exactly. blm Aug 2019 #61

+1,000. E$tabli$hment can't put forth evidence so resorts to MarcA Aug 2019 #122

Same old story, same old song and dance, my friend... not falling for it THIS time!! InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2019 #157

Warren has more Wall Street acceptance delisen Aug 2019 #60

Washington Post-Democrats back off once-fervent embrace of Medicare-for-all Gothmog Aug 2019 #62

the people who don't want medicare 4 all are the people that already have good healthcare questionseverything Aug 2019 #77

Which is 85% of the people and they will come out to vote in droves NYMinute Aug 2019 #84

in the primaries you are prob right questionseverything Aug 2019 #87

MfA was not on the ballot in 2016 NYMinute Aug 2019 #112

wow talk about changing lanes questionseverything Aug 2019 #144

As a health care professional your statement isn't correct. Nurses doctors all health care Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #92

are u saying docs and nurses dont want nedicare for all? questionseverything Aug 2019 #143

No, I'm saying that you said those that have health care could care less if others don't and nothing Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #148

no i said those that dont support medicare 4 all already have theirs questionseverything Aug 2019 #150

love the nurses questionseverything Aug 2019 #151

The Florida Dems did a wonderful job in 2016... oh, never mind. Autumn Aug 2019 #68

I wish there was a way we could model a moderate centrist in an election against trump. Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2019 #69

I'm sure there is some way of Florida gauging how a moderate centrist would do against Trump. Autumn Aug 2019 #70

This message was self-deleted by its author Gothmog Aug 2019 #72

..... Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2019 #83

Well that was 2016 for sure. Don't see any data to back up what 1nonblond, a Biden fan Autumn Aug 2019 #88

Why? Do you think Trump can make a case for predatory capitalism better blm Aug 2019 #91

Democrats Back Off Medicare-for-All Gothmog Aug 2019 #71

MfA is political suicide nt NYMinute Aug 2019 #85

Indeed Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #104

Have to agree with them that we need to appeal to the swing voters in swing states treestar Aug 2019 #75

They are 100% right we are not going to win PA, Michigan or Wisconsin with doc03 Aug 2019 #80

Yup! Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #105

Why? Do you believe Trump can make a better case for blm Aug 2019 #107

Thanks. I don't get calling her far ANYTHING, elleng Aug 2019 #114

She has a big spending program for everything doc03 Aug 2019 #115

Warren has the economic facts to combat the fearmongering. blm Aug 2019 #117

He doesn't have to be will say only he doc03 Aug 2019 #118

Not in my language. elleng Aug 2019 #120

She is just to preachy like Al Gore doc03 Aug 2019 #123

NOT, of course, if people bother to LISTEN to what they say, elleng Aug 2019 #124

I agree with her but the Democrats that swicthed doc03 Aug 2019 #126

I defer comment on them generally, elleng Aug 2019 #128

The union plant I worked in closed in 2009. doc03 Aug 2019 #130

bernie had tons of support in wisconsin and michigan questionseverything Aug 2019 #147

Those were both open primary states where republicans could cross over and vote for.... George II Aug 2019 #173

in your opionion questionseverything Aug 2019 #174

"This election will be decided in a handful of swing states,..." myohmy2 Aug 2019 #110

Two words from 2016 "Blue Wall" Oh and she doc03 Aug 2019 #116

Yes, back to dem basics Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #139

blah, blah, blah... myohmy2 Aug 2019 #161

"think Bernie." BannonsLiver Aug 2019 #166

Calling Barack's brother Joe... you are needed in Florida. Princetonian Aug 2019 #121

As of right now the electorate map shows Fl leaning dem Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #140

Nice electoral map with Trump is underwater in TX and GA. Princetonian Aug 2019 #167

is hillary president? no. screw moderate. pansypoo53219 Aug 2019 #136

BINGO!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2019 #154

If the Democratic Party's platform was the most progressive in history, how was betsuni Aug 2019 #163

REAL PEOPLE DO NOT READ A PLATFORM! be sensible. she ran as a competent moderate pansypoo53219 Aug 2019 #175

Didn't we try that in 2016? Joe941 Aug 2019 #142

Don't act like you don't know how Cha Aug 2019 #160

No thanks -nt Bradical79 Aug 2019 #168

Ya know, we can't get most of DU to line up with the most leftish candidates, so how... TreasonousBastard Aug 2019 #170

I don't see Senator Warren as 'excessively radical,' in fact not radical AT ALL, elleng Aug 2019 #171

I don't either, but she is being portrayed as "very" left by some of her supporters and many... TreasonousBastard Aug 2019 #172

America is f'ed up if swing voters fear progressive goals more than the current fascist in the WH. LonePirate Aug 2019 #176