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VarryOn

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56. An analogy on BS and the Democratic Party...

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 12:52 AM

Feb 2019

I grew up in southern Arkansas. Every elected county official and area state legislator was a Democrat. My family was friends with a couple of them who had been politicians for years. They were some of the most conservative people you could ever meet. Anytime you heard many of the others speak, it was the same way. Most were pretty conservative. But, to win elections around there, you had to run as a Democrat.

My grandfather, a Baptist deacon who I once heard say that Huckabee was too liberal, was on the county Democratic committee. No way he'd ever be a Republican!

BS is no more a Democrat than the aforementioned politicians or my grandfather.while I dont think BS will win the nomination, he certainly has no chance without a "D" by his name. And I guess the powers that be are OK letting him have a shot.

It's the darndest thing...oh well.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Nina Turner, a 2020 Bernie campaign chair, refused to support Hillary days before the 2016 election. [View all] pnwmom Feb 2019 OP

She was seen palling around with Jill Stein at an event the same week as the 2016 Convention! George II Feb 2019 #1

Exactly. Jill Stein is a Russian asset. Her parents are Russian. Most people don't know that because okaawhatever Feb 2019 #105

Actually there is a lot of that going around. Russian assets, lots of it. Eliot Rosewater Feb 2019 #178

Follow up - I found the video but it's only contained in a tweet.... George II Feb 2019 #118

This speaks both to Sanders' bad judgment and his inability to find someone better. Bleacher Creature Feb 2019 #2

This isn't bad judgement. Adrahil Feb 2019 #206

I can't argue with that at all. Bleacher Creature Feb 2019 #209

I have a metaphor for what this choice is, but will refrain from posting it.(nt) ehrnst Apr 2019 #225

I think that he chose Turner for reasons that don't have to do with winning the nomination. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2019 #226

i think youre right... samnsara Apr 2019 #229

Nina became completely unhinged last cycle. ecstatic Feb 2019 #3

More proof BS is Too Divisive. Cha Feb 2019 #9

You said it. we can do it Feb 2019 #21

This is horrible Gothmog Feb 2019 #28

What does a campaign chairman do? lapucelle Feb 2019 #36

Broadly: fundraising, endorsement wrangling and public speaking brooklynite Feb 2019 #164

Fundraising? Interesting. lapucelle Feb 2019 #169

The stuff of nightmares.. Cha Feb 2019 #39

Never mind last cycle. Have you seen her when she's offered a donut? lapucelle Feb 2019 #34

"They tried to seduce us with donuts and water" betsuni Feb 2019 #38

Maybe it was fancy mineral water in a glass bottle and French crullers with icing. N/T lapucelle Feb 2019 #40

ELITISTS! betsuni Feb 2019 #41

No I haven't.. I wondered Cha Feb 2019 #61

A contemporaneous account of the shocking incident! lapucelle Feb 2019 #76

"They tried to seduce us with donuts and water" WeekiWater Feb 2019 #126

I mean... Docreed2003 Feb 2019 #151

omg.. see all the shite I miss! Cha Feb 2019 #172

love her jodymarie aimee Feb 2019 #4

Did you love it when she refused to support Hillary over Trump? n/t pnwmom Feb 2019 #5

Always means always. lapucelle Feb 2019 #12

Doesn't care.. "always"! Cha Feb 2019 #24

Support democrats Yosemito Feb 2019 #155

What did I do? I think you're confusing me with the Co-Chairperson Senator's fan lapucelle Feb 2019 #179

Yeah, Nina's support of Jill Stein's Fucking LIES are Cha Feb 2019 #8

Thank you for posting this, Cha. What a despicable woman. She's an enemy of lunamagica Feb 2019 #84

I already have said stated BS is Too Cha Feb 2019 #173

That's the video I referred to earlier. Thanks for posting it. Look at her hugging Jill Stein!! George II Feb 2019 #121

You're Welcome, George.. Cha Feb 2019 #174

This really makes me cry for what might have been vs where we are now. nt allgood33 Feb 2019 #144

I know.. we just have to make Cha Feb 2019 #175

That speaks volumes. N/T lapucelle Feb 2019 #11

Loud and Clear. Cha Feb 2019 #25

good to know Cane4Dems Feb 2019 #15

Anyone who didn't vote for Hillary leftynyc Feb 2019 #72

Absolutely. nt okaawhatever Feb 2019 #104

This message was self-deleted by its author lapucelle Feb 2019 #77

Me too! She's the best! nt m-lekktor Feb 2019 #162

Nina was the "best" at helping to get trump Rigged Cha Feb 2019 #213

He is gonna tank faster than I first thought. MrsCoffee Feb 2019 #6

one can only hope PupCamo Feb 2019 #171

he deserves it. Cha Feb 2019 #214

The Question Answers Itself Doesn't It? Me. Feb 2019 #7

It says BS doesn't really care.. Cha Feb 2019 #10

It shows he does care. The largest group of voters are indie floppyboo Feb 2019 #158

Here's a chart of party affiliation trends. floppyboo Feb 2019 #160

Nina Does NOT know the Difference Between Cha Feb 2019 #184

on that bill she was referring to, it was a bi-partisan 'no'. floppyboo Feb 2019 #186

Nina pumped Jill Stein's Fucking LIES for potus Cha Feb 2019 #187

You should check out the documentary I just posted on Sanders and our revolution floppyboo Feb 2019 #188

NO! I'm ANGRY at them.. Nina and her Ilk Cha Feb 2019 #189

I don't like Justice Democrats (take money from Republicans not do I care for Demsrule86 Feb 2019 #199

Studies show that the vast majority of "independents" are strong partisans. Garrett78 Feb 2019 #195

interesting. Do you have a link? floppyboo Feb 2019 #202

I have more than 1. Garrett78 Feb 2019 #203

Yeah... no offense, but that's ridiculous. Adrahil Feb 2019 #211

Nina Turner: It Is Not Our Job to Fit Into the Democratic Establishment LongtimeAZDem Feb 2019 #13

Got to get that tired old buzzword in there.. Cha Feb 2019 #23

As I've said all along, BS has his own agenda. Honeycombe8 Feb 2019 #63

Love her! Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #14

Did you love her refusal to support the Democratic nominee against Donald Trump? n/t pnwmom Feb 2019 #18

*Crickets* I think the deafening silence answers your question. I bet that those lunamagica Feb 2019 #88

The company one keeps speaks volumes Zambero Feb 2019 #95

Well said, Zambero! Cha Feb 2019 #185

I love her too. She was not obligated to support Hillary. roody Feb 2019 #103

She WAS obligated to support Hillary against Trump. pnwmom Feb 2019 #135

Yes she was. As a Democrat she was obligated to vote for the Democratic candidate and not Demsrule86 Feb 2019 #200

Wow. NT Adrahil Feb 2019 #207

No, she evidently felt Obligated to help get Cha Feb 2019 #212

Yeah, Nina supported Jill Stein's Fucking Lies that Cha Feb 2019 #26

Did you love her choice of Jill Stein for POTUS? John Fante Feb 2019 #45

Did you love her when she made Baby Jesus cry? n/t QC Feb 2019 #57

Me too.. disillusioned73 Feb 2019 #87

Are you aware that she supported stain over Hillary? lunamagica Feb 2019 #91

Are you aware that this is a FREE country?? disillusioned73 Feb 2019 #93

Are you aware this site is called DEMOCRATIC underground? This is a site to support DEMOCRATS lunamagica Feb 2019 #97

Nina is a Democrat from Ohio.. disillusioned73 Feb 2019 #99

She is a DINO. But it doesn't matter. Today's move by Sanders killed any small posibility lunamagica Feb 2019 #100

lol.. disillusioned73 Feb 2019 #101

This message was self-deleted by its author disillusioned73 Feb 2019 #102

She is not a Democrat...and has said as much. Demsrule86 Feb 2019 #153

Ok sparky.. disillusioned73 Feb 2019 #156

According to the Cuyahoga County Board of Elections brooklynite Feb 2019 #166

I live in Ohio and have done much canvassing...there are plenty of Democrats who have Demsrule86 Feb 2019 #198

Nah, she voted for jill Fucking Stein's LIES Cha Mar 2019 #220

Stein's LIES helped rig trump in.. so NO Cha Mar 2019 #221

Strawman argument attempting to cast criticism as racist LongtimeAZDem Feb 2019 #108

When in rome.. disillusioned73 Feb 2019 #110

Like Kamala Harris, currently the highest rated here among those with a preference? LongtimeAZDem Feb 2019 #113

I see what is going on.. disillusioned73 Feb 2019 #115

"I see what is going on" LongtimeAZDem Feb 2019 #116

You're funny awesomerwb1 Feb 2019 #141

You don't know what a strawman argument is. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2019 #159

Perhaps I am in error; which fallacy would you say it is? LongtimeAZDem Feb 2019 #161

This has nothing to do with Turner's race. And was does Cortez have to with this, either? George II Feb 2019 #180

You know damn well this has NOTHING to Do Cha Feb 2019 #197

I was a BS fan in 2016. Supported HRC 100% after the primaries. This is beyond the pale. Pobeka Feb 2019 #16

Same here on all points MustLoveBeagles Feb 2019 #29

I don't think Hillary voters should give him our votes. nt backabby-blue Feb 2019 #17

Not too much risk of that happening. comradebillyboy Feb 2019 #19

lol.. yeah! Cha Feb 2019 #22

If she were, which she's not, I wouldn't and won't. democratisphere Feb 2019 #30

Clinton voters will not vote for sanders Gothmog Feb 2019 #31

And yet he somehow thinks he can win. n/t pnwmom Feb 2019 #35

No double standard there. progressoid Feb 2019 #44

There are a ton of real democrats with long memories who will not forgive or forget sanders conduct Gothmog Feb 2019 #52

Clinton voters are unlikely to vote for BS in the primaries. lapucelle Feb 2019 #89

Well, I'll be honest, progressoid Feb 2019 #148

The Co-Chairperson-Senator made it clear that she was not supporting the Democratic nominee. lapucelle Feb 2019 #150

Well given that there are Democratic choices as opposed to R or Green, MrsCoffee Feb 2019 #120

sanders success was due to NeverHillary voters Gothmog Feb 2019 #210

Not in the primaries, no. LongtimeAZDem Feb 2019 #50

I will support the nominee but I will be working hard to make sure that sanders is not the nominee Gothmog Feb 2019 #53

Right there with you LongtimeAZDem Feb 2019 #55

Well.. it's not like there isn't a precedent for that.. disillusioned73 Feb 2019 #90

BS proves once again he is too divisive. we can do it Feb 2019 #20

Just one more reason we ended up with drumpf. democratisphere Feb 2019 #27

Nina "If there is a Republican or a Libertarian or a Green Party person that believes in betsuni Feb 2019 #32

What exactly does a "campaign chair" do, lapucelle Feb 2019 #33

Sanders himself didn't really support Clinton. WeekiWater Feb 2019 #37

Turner is what's really wrong with politics. WeekiWater Feb 2019 #42

Your post bears repeating Docreed2003 Feb 2019 #152

No one controls another person's vote. hedda_foil Feb 2019 #43

He gave a high profile to someone who went public against Hillary. So that's on him. pnwmom Feb 2019 #46

Oh for heaven's sake. Find another hill to die on. (Metaphorically). This is just silly. hedda_foil Feb 2019 #47

No it isn't "silly".. and don't you worry Cha Feb 2019 #66

We gave argued, repeatedly, that Sanders did nothing to stop his followera from supporting Stein LongtimeAZDem Feb 2019 #48

Knowing what Nina had done, he nevertheless elevated her to a position of prominence namahage Feb 2019 #51

Ok. I finally found the announcement that he made her a 2020 co-chair. Bonehead move. hedda_foil Feb 2019 #54

+1 Power 2 the People Feb 2019 #58

Yes, it does. Since he specifically chose her to head his 2020 campaign. Tho she helped Trump win. Honeycombe8 Feb 2019 #64

It goes to Judgment. Cha Feb 2019 #67

Correct, he's not her puppet master, but he hires her as his co-chair AFTER that? George II Feb 2019 #122

She's awful. NurseJackie Feb 2019 #49

She is that and more.. Cha Feb 2019 #69

An analogy on BS and the Democratic Party... VarryOn Feb 2019 #56

My grandmother reminds me of the conservative Democrats you mention The Genealogist Feb 2019 #81

Even though he was so politically repug at times... VarryOn Feb 2019 #132

BS was the biggest beneficiary of trump'a win AlexSFCA Feb 2019 #59

Oh yeah.. and BS was out there Cha Feb 2019 #65

What slim chance he had to win this thing... honest.abe Feb 2019 #60

Ouch. That's not good. And she wasn't nice about it. Ouch. nt Honeycombe8 Feb 2019 #62

Here's Nina in 2017 disingenouly saying there's no difference Cha Feb 2019 #68

Wait. She doesn't know wolves can kill humans, foxes run away? betsuni Feb 2019 #70

I guess Not! Cha Feb 2019 #71

She will bring her own style of Stein-loving and Stein-voting toxicity to the campaign. NurseJackie Feb 2019 #74

Yes, BS made sure of that. Cha Feb 2019 #170

So what if Bernie loses, which is very likely, and Nina gets pissed off again? honest.abe Feb 2019 #73

That's a good prediction. I cannot think of anything else as likely. She's a horrible choice... NurseJackie Feb 2019 #75

Yeah, it makes me ill just thinking it could happen again. honest.abe Feb 2019 #82

It won't happen, but the DNC should reject him. Yes, it would be bad, but it will only get worse LongtimeAZDem Feb 2019 #86

Exactly. This decision by Sanders to bring her into his campaign is puzzling, unless lunamagica Feb 2019 #96

Post removed Post removed Feb 2019 #109

I think he's in it only to spoil.. just like last time. Amimnoch Feb 2019 #78

Many people share those feelings. You're not alone. NurseJackie Feb 2019 #92

I agree with you. This move SCREAMS spoiler lunamagica Feb 2019 #98

Has she resigned from Our Revolution? Haven't seen any news about that. n/t seaglass Feb 2019 #79

Will Madame Co-Chairperson Senator Nina Turner have access to any DNC data? N/T lapucelle Feb 2019 #80

The campaigns have access to their own data on the DNC server. Let's hope by now they've... George II Feb 2019 #123

Remember this guy? lapucelle Feb 2019 #124

They pooh poohed the breach, saying they were just in the database for "a few minutes".... George II Feb 2019 #125

Does Wikileaks have the data? Did Wikileaks steal it from the breachers lapucelle Feb 2019 #128

Based on links already posted, Turner would not be allowed to post on DU LongtimeAZDem Feb 2019 #83

Very well spotted! Should be its own post. Amimnoch Feb 2019 #94

See my post #133. George II Feb 2019 #140

Which thread? LongtimeAZDem Feb 2019 #145

Sorry, I meant #133. Corrected. George II Feb 2019 #146

Yep; I linked to that particular article in post #13. LongtimeAZDem Feb 2019 #147

I love this lady.. disillusioned73 Feb 2019 #85

nina doesn't even know the difference between Dems Cha Feb 2019 #218

She's as toxic as that Stein-loving/Stein-voting idiot: Susan Fucking Sarandon. NurseJackie Feb 2019 #106

People are known by the company they keep and the decisions they make... NurseJackie Feb 2019 #107

Excerpts from a recent interview with Jacobin Magazine: George II Feb 2019 #111

When it comes to the frequent bashing of Democrats and smearing the Democratic party... NurseJackie Feb 2019 #119

Nina Turner helped put trump in office. Paladin Feb 2019 #112

It's almost like Bernie is completely unaware of her Stein-loving, Stein-voting toxicity. NurseJackie Feb 2019 #114

I just posted this (#111) as you were posting your message: George II Feb 2019 #117

how could he be unaware? lunamagica Feb 2019 #129

I know. NurseJackie Feb 2019 #131

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2019 #127

we are in the minority here jodymarie aimee Feb 2019 #130

Sounds like the loud minority that hated Hillary. You'd know about that, right? n/t pnwmom Feb 2019 #133

I have better things to do than to fight with somebody jodymarie aimee Feb 2019 #139

Didn't you once tell me Avenatti would have made a better President than Obama? BannonsLiver Feb 2019 #163

I most certainly did NOT jodymarie aimee Feb 2019 #165

Sorry must have been someone else. BannonsLiver Feb 2019 #167

We're Vetting Candidates.. everyone gets Vetted Cha Feb 2019 #194

Here are a few comment by her in an interview with The Nation when she became President... George II Feb 2019 #137

NO.. Nina Turner Does NOT "speak truth to power".. Cha Feb 2019 #193

Did you love her for refusing to support Hillary against Trump in the general? n/t pnwmom Feb 2019 #134

Post removed Post removed Feb 2019 #138

This message was self-deleted by its author pnwmom Feb 2019 #143

Despise her...Hope news outlets do not give her air time to spread her ba. Nt helpisontheway Feb 2019 #136

Not only did a lot of BS and Nina supporters fall for much of the Russian hack-gate, many would not allgood33 Feb 2019 #142

Further proof Bernie really isn't the guy for us. lark Feb 2019 #149

His Democratic opponents should use that against him Yosemito Feb 2019 #154

.... Blue_Tires Feb 2019 #157

It is Sanders way of Trumpocalypse Feb 2019 #168

Yep.. once again. Cha Feb 2019 #176

I think it's his way of acknowledging that he knows he can't win the nomination. Garrett78 Feb 2019 #205

What does it mean? Eliot Rosewater Feb 2019 #177

Okay melman Feb 2019 #181

This message was self-deleted by its author Eliot Rosewater Feb 2019 #204

Disgusting. I have nothing but contempt for any Stein voter. NurseJackie Feb 2019 #182

She is a train wreck. MrsCoffee Feb 2019 #183

Mahalo for this, MrsCoffee.. Cha Feb 2019 #190

Hey there Cha. MrsCoffee Feb 2019 #191

I had no tolerence for stein and trump fans the last time Cha Feb 2019 #192

Hello Cha! I hve no use for any of them either. And since Nina is from Ohio and I voted for her Demsrule86 Feb 2019 #201

Well said, Demsrule! I didn't Cha Feb 2019 #208

***First question to Sanders at the first debate in June: Garrett78 Feb 2019 #196

Is Bernie all out for Bernie? Maybe. Is Nina all out for Nina? oasis Feb 2019 #215

Consider this: someone who would be banned from DU is a co-chair of the Sanders campaign. Garrett78 Feb 2019 #216

Exactly. And, it's no wonder Cha Feb 2019 #217

Turner introduced sanders yesterday Gothmog Mar 2019 #219

She invoked MLK when talking about the FBI's raid on Michael Cohen, "going too far." ehrnst Apr 2019 #222

This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst Apr 2019 #223

She also called DNC and Dem leaders "dictators" & falsely said that the DNC wouldn't work with them ehrnst Apr 2019 #224

I don't get ths at all... Mike Nelson Apr 2019 #227

there goes Bernie's Indivisible Pledge... samnsara Apr 2019 #228

That didn't take long. nt pnwmom Apr 2019 #231

A vote for Jill Stein was a vote for trump Gothmog Apr 2019 #230