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HerbChestnut

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Thu Aug 22, 2019, 04:08 PM Aug 2019

No, Bernie's M4A plan was not changed like some here want others to believe. [View all]

When the campaign for Medicare for All was launched, it was predicted their would be a counter campaign of misinformation from various groups who would not want it passed. Well, we're seeing some of that misinformation on this board. It stems from an article posted in WaPo:

https://beta.washingtonpost.com/politics/sen-bernie-sanders-changes-medicare-for-all-plan-in-face-of-opposition-by-organized-labor/2019/08/21/d8144e06-c423-11e9-9986-1fb3e4397be4_story.html?noredirect=on

Short version of the story, Unions have been concerned that M4A would strip them of their negotiated benefits. This concern has been fueled by people against M4A, like certain other candidates that shall not be mentioned. Nonetheless, the Sanders campaign wanted to alleviate all fears, just or otherwise, and added a sentence into the M4A plan that specifically says Unions can negotiate for better healthcare coverage with their employers under M4A. Thing is, there was nothing that stopped them from doing that in the first place under the "old" M4A plan.

It's a shame what this board is coming to.

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I remember reading it, it said employers could offer it to their employees. Autumn Aug 2019 #1
It's a no brainer. HerbChestnut Aug 2019 #2
Those people are otherwise known as the Health Insurance Industry and the Pharma Industry Voltaire2 Aug 2019 #3
Here's a link to his bill: George II Aug 2019 #4
Thank you for posting that. It proves my point. HerbChestnut Aug 2019 #5
See, that's the "out" - he says his plan will cover EVERYTHING, so what isn't already covered.... George II Aug 2019 #6
His campaign only included the language about unions being able to negotiate because... HerbChestnut Aug 2019 #7
Ah, so he HAS changed it. George II Aug 2019 #9
The functionality of the bill is exactly the same. HerbChestnut Aug 2019 #10
negotiate tummy tucks and the like ...stuff not covered in the plan...well that will win them over. Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #21
They would lose their coverage that they gave up pay for...and would be unlikely to get anything Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #22
Under M4A, what coverage would they lose exactly? HerbChestnut Aug 2019 #24
Let me get this straight. On a certain date all insurance wasupaloopa Aug 2019 #11
Theoretically that's what BS' bill says. Of course it has no chance of passing anyway, so it's moot. George II Aug 2019 #12
All investors will lose their money. All employees will be wasupaloopa Aug 2019 #13
There are SO many things that haven't been worked out in this plan. Wait, maybe they have.... George II Aug 2019 #14
Bernie is a pied piper. He makes up fantasy ideas wasupaloopa Aug 2019 #15
Lock em up! Voltaire2 Aug 2019 #16
Can you imagine the job losses? Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #23
Kicked and recommended Uncle Joe Aug 2019 #8
Since there will be no private insurance how is that going to work? Such nonsense... Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #17
M4A allows for private companies to provide health insurance not covered under M4A. HerbChestnut Aug 2019 #18
That is a dodge...I want to keep my plan...MFA would raise my cost considerably ...and I would have Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #19
The union would lose their gold plated earned coverage and be covered for tummy tucks and the like.. Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #20
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Nope. No bias here. Move along now... HerbChestnut Aug 2019 #26
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