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mr_lebowski

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31. Yeah, I agree with NNadir on the need for some nuclear power as things stand ...

Fri Aug 23, 2019, 11:39 PM

Aug 2019

But I'm not nearly as down on solar and esp. not wind ... as he is. He considers them basically total folly and a waste to even try ... I disagree on that point.

He is a damn smart cat though. I don't discount anything he says on this subject.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Bernie Sanders Gets a D- for His Climate Plan [View all] lapucelle Aug 2019 OP

Great opener. Can't take this guy seriously when he uses language like that. HerbChestnut Aug 2019 #1

You have a problem with Mother Jones? yardwork Aug 2019 #39

I have a problem with the way this reporter wrote their article. HerbChestnut Aug 2019 #55

No nuclear power?! We'll solve the climate crisis without Hortensis Aug 2019 #76

Nuclear doesn't seem that useful Bradical79 Aug 2019 #94

This is part of the problem, not a solution. If we'd elected Democrats Hortensis Aug 2019 #95

Seems subsidizing nuclear may have been a bad decision Bradical79 Aug 2019 #96

Bradical, China's "footprint" per person was extremely low Hortensis Aug 2019 #97

Whereas other people do take Cha Aug 2019 #113

Who the heck is Kevin Drum? roody Aug 2019 #2

Notorious Bernie hater. Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2019 #4

Kevin Drum writes for Mother Jones lapucelle Aug 2019 #12

Thank you! I'll take a "Bernie hater" over the pool Amimnoch Aug 2019 #20

Yay.. Well said! Cha Aug 2019 #67

+1 betsuni Aug 2019 #68

NOT LEFT ENOUGH! George II Aug 2019 #104

lol Cha Aug 2019 #116

You have a problem with Mother Jones? yardwork Aug 2019 #38

Anyone who dissents even slightly from Senator Sanders' statements is automatically ehrnst Aug 2019 #81

Nah.. he just doesn't like Cha Aug 2019 #61

Well, it was only a matter of time before Mother Jones got thrown under the bus. LanternWaste Aug 2019 #69

Yep. You are correct. Mother Jones is spinning in her grave that the magazine .... Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2019 #70

It appears that anyone who disagrees with Senator Sanders gets thrown under the bus ehrnst Aug 2019 #82

Nah.. just a journalist doing his job. Cha Aug 2019 #84

Get This. sheshe2 Aug 2019 #103

+1 betsuni Aug 2019 #107

Thanks, betsuni. sheshe2 Aug 2019 #108

Just when you think you've reached the bottom of the kill-the-messenger barrel, betsuni Aug 2019 #110

Unbelievable. sheshe2 Aug 2019 #111

Banning nuclear power is the stupidest part ... it absolutely should be part of the equation mr_lebowski Aug 2019 #3

Agreed about the nuclear power part. HerbChestnut Aug 2019 #5

On this we agree, but I doubt you will get a consensus still_one Aug 2019 #6

Indeed. And if weren't facing a GLOBAL extinction event I'd be thinking differently mr_lebowski Aug 2019 #9

I wholeheartedly agree. Politically I think it is difficult to add it to the list of still_one Aug 2019 #11

We STILL don't have flying cars. OilemFirchen Aug 2019 #22

Agreed... SidDithers Aug 2019 #48

Post removed Post removed Aug 2019 #10

Yes, I absolutely am. mr_lebowski Aug 2019 #13

Tells you a lot when they would rather have a nuclear power plant, than a green new deal. bahrbearian Aug 2019 #17

I think you missed this part. "it absolutely should be part of the equation" Eko Aug 2019 #27

It takes 12 years to put a reactor on line, "we are just not going to get there in enough time" bahrbearian Aug 2019 #44

It can be done in 2 years by speeding up the permitting process. nt NYMinute Aug 2019 #53

it takes 1 year alone to prep the land and 5 years to build, bahrbearian Aug 2019 #56

The American Nuclear Insurers (ANI) currently writes all nuclear liability policies. TexasTowelie Aug 2019 #109

You are simply wrong that there's nothing 'green' about nuclear power ... nt mr_lebowski Aug 2019 #32

I agree , completely. bahrbearian Aug 2019 #45

People should do some research into nuclear power, they'd be very surprised how safe and.... George II Aug 2019 #46

India has an ambitious plan NYMinute Aug 2019 #54

This is a very uninformed post. Sorry, but there it is. yardwork Aug 2019 #59

What an insulting comment... Drunken Irishman Aug 2019 #18

Ontario gets more than 80% from Nuclear... SidDithers Aug 2019 #49

Gasp. Has anyone told Greenpeace?! yardwork Aug 2019 #60

I used to love that Cha Aug 2019 #89

the cooling systems for nuclear need to have wind back up power questionseverything Aug 2019 #30

Most of those "socialist" European countries Sanders' fans love make heavy use of nuclear brooklynite Aug 2019 #19

Agreed. Nuclear power should absolutely be part of the equation. (eom) StevieM Aug 2019 #21

Right. In an extremely complex issue, this at least is simple Hortensis Aug 2019 #79

I found this post by NNadir quite enlightening & on-point from a scientific standpoint. Tarheel_Dem Aug 2019 #7

Thank you for sharing that. lapucelle Aug 2019 #15

You're quite welcome. Tarheel_Dem Aug 2019 #23

Careful, Eko Aug 2019 #28

Yeah, I agree with NNadir on the need for some nuclear power as things stand ... mr_lebowski Aug 2019 #31

Thanks, but I'll take my chances. Tarheel_Dem Aug 2019 #37

I've always been a fan of NNadir... SidDithers Aug 2019 #50

Where's the scientific standpoint? Lordquinton Aug 2019 #62

Thank you, Tarheel! Cha Aug 2019 #112

Kick mcar Aug 2019 #8

Wow.. mahalo, lapucelle. Cha Aug 2019 #14

The C- that the same yo-yo gave Elizabeth Warren for her climate plan is nothing to write home about mtnsnake Aug 2019 #16

Actually Kevin Drum gives good reasons for his opinion.. Cha Aug 2019 #33

And, what's wrong with being "a huge fan Cha Aug 2019 #65

I will wait on that answer as well Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #78

.. Cha Aug 2019 #83

Do you have a link for that, mtnsnake? Cha Aug 2019 #73

The LCV is cheering all climate discussion on, thrilled (their word Hortensis Aug 2019 #77

Bogus headline. Eric J in MN Aug 2019 #24

This message was self-deleted by its author JudyM Aug 2019 #35

Journalists writing for Mother Jones are not "bloggers." yardwork Aug 2019 #42

Kevin Drum calls himself a blogger. Eric J in MN Aug 2019 #57

You're continuing to illustrate my point. yardwork Aug 2019 #58

No one is saying anything about Mother Jones Lordquinton Aug 2019 #63

I'm reading the posts in this thread differently from you. yardwork Aug 2019 #64

Why is any criticism of Berne an attack. wasupaloopa Aug 2019 #105

I thought Mother Jones was the one place immune to attacking the messenger. betsuni Aug 2019 #66

Well, if they give BS a D-.. Cha Aug 2019 #74

So on Teh Corporate Media Conglomerate enemies list they go! betsuni Aug 2019 #75

It figures. The contempt for science at Greenpeace is incredible and the fact that the media... NNadir Aug 2019 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author yardwork Aug 2019 #41

I give him an F nt NYMinute Aug 2019 #25

K&R Gothmog Aug 2019 #26

Seven minute abs again. betsuni Aug 2019 #29

Perfect! yardwork Aug 2019 #40

I believe so. NurseJackie Aug 2019 #72

That seems like an unreasonably high grade to me. n/t. NNadir Aug 2019 #34

BS plan Vegas Roller Aug 2019 #43

It seems like there are a fair number of people who think Trump has been acting hughee99 Aug 2019 #47

LOL. I'll take the League of Conservation Votersand Greenpeace opinion over Mother Jones any day. vsrazdem Aug 2019 #51

Or Stanford's director of their Atmosphere and Energy program Bradical79 Aug 2019 #93

K&R sheshe2 Aug 2019 #52

I guess a "D" is better than an "I" NurseJackie Aug 2019 #71

Indeed. (nt) ehrnst Aug 2019 #80

How About We Confer With A Top Environmentalist? corbettkroehler Aug 2019 #85

Wait...what? Varshini Prakash is a "top environmentalist"? lapucelle Aug 2019 #86

The World's Old Grassroots Environmental Organization Says So corbettkroehler Aug 2019 #98

Your conclusion doesn't logically follow from the "evidence" you cite. lapucelle Aug 2019 #99

What You Call An Appeal, I Call Citing Proof corbettkroehler Aug 2019 #114

The link is to a sweet puff piece in the Sierra Club magazine. lapucelle Aug 2019 #115

A "top environmentalist" who has been out of college all of four years.... George II Aug 2019 #106

... Scurrilous Aug 2019 #87

Does he have expertise on anything climate related? Bradical79 Aug 2019 #88

In what way is the article "light on any kind of useful analysis" on the BS policy proposal? N/T lapucelle Aug 2019 #91

For one, he says nothing about what Climate goals need to be met Bradical79 Aug 2019 #92

The failure to address "what climate goals need to be met" lapucelle Aug 2019 #100

D+ is way too generous... comradebillyboy Aug 2019 #90

drum was right about something one time. Kurt V. Aug 2019 #101

Even if Bernie's plan were not a fairytale, it could wasupaloopa Aug 2019 #102