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NNadir

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76. Really? We're closer to a nuclear war than ever before?
Sun Aug 25, 2019, 07:49 PM
Aug 2019

I was a child in 1963. I thought at the time - I remember it well - I would be vaporized in the afternoon.

You have touched on two issues on which I have paid deep and considerable attention over 30 years, climate change and nuclear science.

I certainly know more about this topic than any common journalist I've seen in the last twenty years.

You are trying to make a case that Joe Biden, and only Joe Biden can save the world, and frankly, although I have great respect for him, I think you are making a very weak case.

This isn't 1964. We have an insane person in the White House and even he is too afraid of nuclear war to use nuclear weapons.

I think that Obama was the best President of my lifetime, and I very much appreciate the role Biden played in his administration, which was hardly passive.

First of all, on climate change, Joe Biden was a member of an administration that hired Steven Chu, who was an excellent choice on climate change, but later the Obama administration also hired the complete fool Gregory Jackzo to head the NRC.

There is no one who has ever done as poor a job at the NRC the job that Glenn Seaborg, Democrat Nobel Laureate and effectively his predecessor in the nuclear job Jackzo held in the Obama administration. I am sure Glenn Seaborg would have been as appalled by Jackzo as I am. Jackzo came into the role with a supremely ignorant bias that borders on criminal.

This shithead thought that his fear of radiation - fear, not fact, outweighed the fact that seven million continuously observed people die each year from air pollution, and that the fact of massive climate change was also outweighed by picayune bureacratic nonsense directing his fear.

That ignorance kills people, every day, 19000 of them.

Jackzo was the worst, and most ignorant person ever to have held that position and, in fact, the worst appointment of the Obama administration, by far.

And please don't tell me about Jackzo's Ph.D. I have personally known thousands of people holding scientific Ph.D.s and I'm hardly always impressed by them. It's very clear that Jackzo was a tragedy for the planet.

The key to both nuclear disarmament and to climate change passes through plutonium, and frankly, no Democratic candidate is going to deal with those dual realities unless we have someone who can change their mind and think in a completely new way. The only way to see what is clearly there, is to look at data and interpret it.

I see no evidence whatsoever that Joe Biden is better than any other Democratic candidate on climate change. I do know that he is probably already familiar with people with bad, weak and old ideas.

Nor, citing the cases I did previously, do I believe that by virtue of being a former VP, one is supremely qualified to be President. This is no dig at Biden, but the last former VP with lots of foreign policy experience, some of which worked for good, was Richard Nixon. Another President with lots of foreign policy credentials, a former Secretary of State, was, until Trump came along, generally considered the worst President in history, James Buchanan.

Too much familiarity with the old ways, particularly in times of great instability can actually be a bad thing.

I am not supporting Ms. Warren because she agrees with my positions on nuclear energy. I have not looked at her views at all. But I do know that she can do what Lincoln asked Americans to do in an even more dire time than this one, He said, "We must think anew."

What I do know is that she looks at the data, and she thinks, and she can change her mind.

The facts are clear on climate change, and I trust no one more among our candidates to act on them than Ms. Warren.

I'm sorry that I don't agree that Joe Biden is the hope of the world. I like him; I admire him; and if he's the nominee I would not question for a New York second to vote for him, but I would prefer someone who, again, has a demonstrated ability to "think anew."

The dogmas of the quiet past, are inadequate to the stormy present. The occasion is piled high with difficulty, and we must rise -- with the occasion. As our case is new, so we must think anew, and act anew. We must disenthrall ourselves, and then we shall save our country. - Lincoln, 1863 message to Congress.


Ms. Warren is way too smart to put aside.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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A nice article, in comparison with the Huff Post hit job OnDoutside Aug 2019 #1
Huff Post has a lot to answer for. Their behavior in 2016 helped hand the White House to Trump. yardwork Aug 2019 #4
Sure did. nt. Ligyron Aug 2019 #48
The Democrats had a good showing in the midterms DIVINEprividence Aug 2019 #90
welcome to DU gopiscrap Aug 2019 #135
I like her more all the time. cwydro Aug 2019 #2
Same here... Pachamama Aug 2019 #127
She is #2 on my list and I like her quite a lot. lark Aug 2019 #3
Thanks for the Post. When I see Articles on her, I don't usually comment, instead I bonniebgood Aug 2019 #5
thanks for the donate reminder saidsimplesimon Aug 2019 #15
Going from 7.3% to 15.4% over a six-month period wouldn't fit most people's definition of a surge. highplainsdem Aug 2019 #6
+1 -K&R onetexan Aug 2019 #7
"We need someone who's inspiring..." one voter said bluewater Aug 2019 #9
Since Biden's the frontrunner and many of us find him inspiring -- as this USA Today op-ed highplainsdem Aug 2019 #10
Just like MSNBC can't ever find a POC for Biden. Strange redstateblues Aug 2019 #33
They can only find ardent anti-Biden POC and boy, do they give them lots of time. It is curious, emmaverybo Aug 2019 #51
And btw, your sniping at Biden again isn't a refutation of my pointing out that Warren's slowly highplainsdem Aug 2019 #11
ZING! Princetonian Aug 2019 #17
Doesn't matter cannabis_flower Aug 2019 #27
What evidence makes that clear to you? emmaverybo Aug 2019 #52
Brilliant observation...Warren is more inspiring compared to most others at140 Aug 2019 #91
I would say she is the clear choice saidsimplesimon Aug 2019 #16
The enthusiasm for Warren is growing! bluewater Aug 2019 #19
Like Bernie did in 2016 redstateblues Aug 2019 #35
was there really a need for that? nt druidity33 Aug 2019 #58
It's true. The point is that big crowds did not lead to the nomination redstateblues Aug 2019 #74
Joe Biden has run for President twice before... druidity33 Aug 2019 #77
It's been said many times here and I'm sure it won't be the last redstateblues Aug 2019 #81
Please anyone but Bernie DIVINEprividence Aug 2019 #92
doubling your percentage in just six months isn't a surge? qazplm135 Aug 2019 #22
I definitely don't recall ever seeing a candidate's gain of 8 points in six months described as a highplainsdem Aug 2019 #23
when the leading candidate has around mid 20s to at most low 30s qazplm135 Aug 2019 #25
Harris's rise is the polls WAS a surge, though a brief one. A surge refers to a sudden powerful highplainsdem Aug 2019 #26
it's absolutely accurate qazplm135 Aug 2019 #29
Biden's support has fallen since he announced on April 25th bluewater Aug 2019 #30
Sorry. I'm enthusiastic about Biden. Don't tell me what I am. redstateblues Aug 2019 #75
so a new poll shows she's ahead of Biden now qazplm135 Aug 2019 #126
The media was calling it a surge when it went up 2% redstateblues Aug 2019 #36
There's More Evidence That Warren Is Taking Votes From Biden and Harris DrFunkenstein Aug 2019 #116
It is a short period of time, most people aren't even engaged in the primary. Agschmid Aug 2019 #130
You should stick to articles like this and blm Aug 2019 #8
Thanks for posting! BlueMTexpat Aug 2019 #12
Warren is inspiring! bluewater Aug 2019 #13
I'll take Kamala or Elizabeth iwannaknow Aug 2019 #14
In a way she is like Bernie promicig things she wasupaloopa Aug 2019 #37
What she proposes, plans put end to end, would bankrupt us. Many plans would come at a cost to emmaverybo Aug 2019 #56
I think that she understands BlueMTexpat Aug 2019 #84
She would make a few economic advisor. emmaverybo Aug 2019 #85
I see her as the real power of the top four Magoo48 Aug 2019 #18
I agree. TryLogic Aug 2019 #70
Elizabeth Warren is truly inspiring. democrank Aug 2019 #20
I agree. TryLogic Aug 2019 #71
Can you show us the electoral map that Warren wins? mainstreetonce Aug 2019 #21
Probably cannabis_flower Aug 2019 #28
Love to see that mainstreetonce Aug 2019 #32
Love O'Rourke but he couldn't beat the odious Ted Cruz in TX redstateblues Aug 2019 #38
Exactly customerserviceguy Aug 2019 #45
Isn't Biden an "also-ran" 3 different times in the past? n/t zackymilly Aug 2019 #46
I think Beto will win something big someday. Like Biden " 3rd Time's the Charm" redstateblues Aug 2019 #78
Even though he was not the top of the ticket customerserviceguy Aug 2019 #105
"Won the vice-presidency twice". I thought he was selected. n/t zackymilly Aug 2019 #124
Yes, that is true customerserviceguy Aug 2019 #132
People are hoping the third times the charm. It won't be. nt Autumn Aug 2019 #120
Cruz is very popular with Texas Republicans NewJeffCT Aug 2019 #117
Not that popular. Approval is at 46. redstateblues Aug 2019 #129
overall? NewJeffCT Aug 2019 #133
I worry that she can't win back the rust belt and we'd have another redstateblues Aug 2019 #41
Warren has an economic message that resonates in the Rust Belt too. bluewater Aug 2019 #43
why exactly? qazplm135 Aug 2019 #79
No it's based on the fact that the Democrats lost 3 critical states redstateblues Aug 2019 #102
Barely lost qazplm135 Aug 2019 #108
Here's your Electoral Map - I posted this a few days ago, along with Bernie's. Biden's is out today floppyboo Aug 2019 #55
Fascinating!! Where did you get this? nt LAS14 Aug 2019 #100
Link to the youtube channel Let's Talk Elections: floppyboo Aug 2019 #123
Thanks for posting! nt LAS14 Aug 2019 #128
And here's the Bernie one.. RobertDevereaux Aug 2019 #113
Elizabeth Warren is inspirational HeartlandProgressive Aug 2019 #24
What about climate change. What is her position? wasupaloopa Aug 2019 #31
Does MA have to have special election if Warren becomes President? aeromanKC Aug 2019 #34
She's got it, yeah baby she's got it! patphil Aug 2019 #39
Nice crowd! Baclava Aug 2019 #40
Family reunion practice speech? I don't see any POC there. n/t zackymilly Aug 2019 #47
This early in the game, I have never wanted a person to be President more than her. NNadir Aug 2019 #42
Front and Center Viz Aug 2019 #44
I like that MFM008 Aug 2019 #49
I really like Warren, more and more as we go. PatrickforO Aug 2019 #50
I have said from the beginning she would surprise a lot of people BeckyDem Aug 2019 #53
She's definitely the Explainer in Chief. Ligyron Aug 2019 #54
All she explains are basically her own pet plans and how these magically result in income equality. emmaverybo Aug 2019 #57
I expect anyone with outstanding intelligence and a highly analytical mind... NNadir Aug 2019 #59
One of the reasons Obama chose Biden was for his foreign policy and relations expertise. emmaverybo Aug 2019 #63
So, is there any impediment to Ms. Warren, like Obama and Lincoln doing something similar? NNadir Aug 2019 #64
No. But then we are in a very precarious position now with Trump's damage to our alliances and emmaverybo Aug 2019 #66
Really? We're closer to a nuclear war than ever before? NNadir Aug 2019 #76
Yes, really. And yes, I would rather have experience and knowledge at emmaverybo Aug 2019 #88
I'm sorry, but I don't credit Common Dreams all that much. NNadir Aug 2019 #93
So far candidates other than Biden have not devoted due attention to foreign policy, the work emmaverybo Aug 2019 #95
I'm sorry. I'm an old man. For my entire life I've been hearing generalized opinions about... NNadir Aug 2019 #104
You would sleep better at night with another candidate at the helm. I will sleep better at night emmaverybo Aug 2019 #111
India Pakistan DIVINEprividence Aug 2019 #97
Iran happened because Kerry knew how to make it happen and blm Aug 2019 #106
Absolutely. And if Iran would come back to the table after Trump's betrayal, it is Biden who emmaverybo Aug 2019 #110
Whoever our Dem prez, the best move would be to blm Aug 2019 #112
You are probably right. They know the agreement and the players inside out. emmaverybo Aug 2019 #114
Vs Biden who has what plan? Chicago1980 Aug 2019 #61
If Biden ran solely on having been VP, the qualifications he demonstrated over those eight years, emmaverybo Aug 2019 #67
"The American public wants bi-partisanship" -- I'm not buying that even though I hear it a lot. TryLogic Aug 2019 #72
The candidate who says that and tells the American public that she can not get anything done in emmaverybo Aug 2019 #73
She says she won't work with Congress? LMGTFY... progressoid Aug 2019 #86
I was responding to the post, which was rejecting the idea of bipartisanship. I did not claim emmaverybo Aug 2019 #96
If we don't even try for positive change things will just get worse. MasonDreams Aug 2019 #89
The point is there is every reason for Biden not to demonize Republican voters and to tout his emmaverybo Aug 2019 #98
You're giving ground, and we've been giving ground since Jimmy Carter MasonDreams Aug 2019 #103
bi-partisanship...and American the public ChubbyStar Aug 2019 #101
Her unilateral no nukes policy sure didn't go over well with most Americans. Ligyron Aug 2019 #62
I see nothing "magical" in Warren's proposals. Nitram Aug 2019 #122
I am surprised Tulsi Gabbard is not getting more support DIVINEprividence Aug 2019 #94
i bet she was a great teacher. pansypoo53219 Aug 2019 #60
She was. Just ask Rep. Katie Porter (D-CA). soldierant Aug 2019 #65
Smart, badass, female teacher PandoraAwakened Aug 2019 #68
BUT she can not win! MRDAWG Aug 2019 #69
Cable tv is over, and so is corporate "already paid for" MasonDreams Aug 2019 #82
her entire campaign has a central theme. the corruption of power. That's true in every walk of life Kurt V. Aug 2019 #80
When Dems won in 2006 the top issue for voters was corruption blm Aug 2019 #107
She has the answers and is in the know. Prosper Aug 2019 #83
Love her. So zentrum Aug 2019 #87
At a recent meeting of the Maricopa County Democratic Party they asked grantcart Aug 2019 #99
"There's a reason Warren is surging" myohmy2 Aug 2019 #109
The Biggest Reason? Roy Rolling Aug 2019 #115
She's my first choice. 💙 n/t BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2019 #118
I love watching hers, Bernie's and Kamala's rallies. The crowds, diversity and excitement are Autumn Aug 2019 #119
Warren has the knowledge and the ideas to set forth relevant, practical policies. Nitram Aug 2019 #121
I wish Warren had run in 2016. We may not have had trump to deal with now. n/t zackymilly Aug 2019 #125
She is Trump's worst nightmare. She is smart, campaigns everywhere and is in good physical shape. Blue_true Aug 2019 #131
Her transformation has been an incredible ecstatic Aug 2019 #134
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