Democratic Primaries

SaschaHM

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60. The lack of a diagnosis isn't going to stop the GOP from saying it or the press from repeating them.

Thu Aug 29, 2019, 03:16 PM

Aug 2019

We all saw it happen in real time when it came to lies about Hillary's health.

I agree it's not good, but smart campaigns know what their potential weaknesses are and they minimize the damage from them. Health, physical or mental, is a concern for any candidate over 70 at this point and has been well before "Palin is a heart beat away from the presidency" GoV tool.

VP Joe is going to be up against an insane clown willing to do and say anything to win. He's fine. We all know he's fine. However, slip ups like this on a national platform will only give the MSM the reason they need to start that drumbeat.

I think he's far enough ahead in polls so far that it won't matter, but these things always get close and the GoP is great at supressing the vote/stealing close elections.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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As he campaigns for president, Joe Biden tells a moving but false war story [View all] brooklynite Aug 2019 OP

I don't think these "mistakes" are intentional but they really make me cringe..n/t monmouth4 Aug 2019 #1

+1 myohmy2 Aug 2019 #157

Meh NYMinute Aug 2019 #2

So when Reagan told inspirational stories that blended plots from war movies he'd been in... brooklynite Aug 2019 #4

Reagan blended fiction NYMinute Aug 2019 #7

No, not really. Most fiction is a blend of reality. When Biden combines three stories pnwmom Aug 2019 #12

I enjoyed listening to him speaking. Joe is a good storyteller, isn't he? Princetonian Aug 2019 #75

All the leading Dems beat trump though... bluewater Aug 2019 #91

That is an old Faux News poll from weeks ago with a higher MOE than Emerson's poll which is recent. Princetonian Aug 2019 #100

Fox News Poll is A rated, Emerson poll is just rated B+ bluewater Aug 2019 #106

Yes, because Reagan Democrats and other Americans didn't give a sh*t and still voted for him. Princetonian Aug 2019 #8

What exactly are you saying here? Lordquinton Aug 2019 #24

No. Reagan Democrats were white working class Democrats who voted en masse for Reagan because... Princetonian Aug 2019 #57

The dirty little secret is those Reagan Democrats were mostly union labor. They didn't like Carter still_one Aug 2019 #83

Excellent point. Thank you, still_one for bringing this to light. Princetonian Aug 2019 #85

jimmy carted was screwed ovr with devastating interest rates that basically stopped the economy questionseverything Aug 2019 #102

Reagan Democrats Turin_C3PO Aug 2019 #37

I was using them as an example of unconcerned voters not lauding their character. Princetonian Aug 2019 #66

Yes... sacto95834 Aug 2019 #70

They were labor, pissed off at Carter still_one Aug 2019 #84

Reagan worked out just wonderful for unionised labour Celerity Aug 2019 #118

Yup, that is the irony of the whole thing, and they voted against him when he ran for the still_one Aug 2019 #148

if they voted against him in the 1984 election, they must have been microscopic in number Celerity Aug 2019 #155

Your link doesnt specifically say where those votes came from except they had traditionally still_one Aug 2019 #158

some links on them in regards to 1984 Celerity Aug 2019 #161

are... myohmy2 Aug 2019 #159

YES !!! uponit7771 Aug 2019 #163

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? MattInMN Aug 2019 #119

Now THAT would be a glaring mistake NYMinute Aug 2019 #120

Good lord. Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2019 #3

Biden has been in politics for many years. guillaumeb Aug 2019 #5

Biden is still in the lead and will remain so... Next... Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #6

+1000 emmaverybo Aug 2019 #39

And.....he is still the frontrunner Watchfoxheadexplodes Aug 2019 #9

He told one version of this in 2008, another couple of versions a few times in 2016. Now this one in Autumn Aug 2019 #78

And mistakes of no moment treestar Aug 2019 #136

If Hillary survived "sniper fire," Joe can survive this. (n/t) thesquanderer Aug 2019 #10

Hillary never said she survived sniper fire. I know about the plane trip you're talking about pnwmom Aug 2019 #13

I meant her campaign survived the hubbub about it. thesquanderer Aug 2019 #26

she survived but we didnt win questionseverything Aug 2019 #103

Yup. Voltaire2 Aug 2019 #150

She didn't really survive the hubub mcar Aug 2019 #115

She got the nomination. And Trump didn't really use it against her in the general... thesquanderer Aug 2019 #122

She said she brought peace to Ireland, opened Bosnia's borders, the helicopter she was flying in emmaverybo Aug 2019 #35

I simply do not care. George II Aug 2019 #11

Is Biden the only democrat running? LincolnRossiter Aug 2019 #14

Someone or Twitter said that the media has an addiction to gaffe porn - I agree... Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #15

Josh Marshall nailed it: hlthe2b Aug 2019 #17

Not good melman Aug 2019 #16

Lol... Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #18

Telling false stories is good? melman Aug 2019 #19

Jumbled some details. BFD. It's not like the story glorifies him personally. LincolnRossiter Aug 2019 #21

Except it kind of does melman Aug 2019 #23

Voters don't care. Joe is the most likeable Democrat in the nation, according to Gallup. Princetonian Aug 2019 #32

But all the leading candidates are beating Trump... bluewater Aug 2019 #92

Voters? So voting is already taking place? Bradshaw3 Aug 2019 #138

Jumbling SOME details? The entire story was wrong... bluewater Aug 2019 #56

As I wrote, I don't give a shit. LincolnRossiter Aug 2019 #72

Some people fumble constantly bluewater Aug 2019 #76

Some people get a lot more scrutiny, which was the point of me posting that dipshit's recent LincolnRossiter Aug 2019 #79

As I said...BFD. LincolnRossiter Aug 2019 #154

Have you read the article? cwydro Aug 2019 #149

Actually it was supposed to boost his Voltaire2 Aug 2019 #152

Are you calling Joe Biden a liar? nt UniteFightBack Aug 2019 #139

Are you pretending you didn't see the thread title? melman Aug 2019 #140

Trump is a liar so are you saying Biden is too? nt UniteFightBack Aug 2019 #141

Are you still pretending you didn't see the thread title? melman Aug 2019 #142

Suck it up and swallow??? Autumn Aug 2019 #20

Stay classy, Autumn. May another Sesame Street video will cheer you up. Princetonian Aug 2019 #34

I'm sure it will cheer me up. Did you object to Jill Biden's we have to swallow and vote for Joe? nt Autumn Aug 2019 #41

It's pragmatic given the overwhelming data. And that is not exactly what she said. Context matters. Princetonian Aug 2019 #63

This chart shows all the top tier Dems beating Trump bluewater Aug 2019 #93

At least he's not trying to buy his way into the debates? redstateblues Aug 2019 #43

ZING! Princetonian Aug 2019 #73

I would not care if he was speaking ad hoc. bluedigger Aug 2019 #22

Matt Visar (Co-author) has written 8 stories featuring Biden in August... LincolnRossiter Aug 2019 #25

More importantly True Dough Aug 2019 #30

Matt Visar seems to be a bit desperate and unsuccessful in attaining his desired outcome... Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #33

Pay wall. 4 paragraphs Autumn Aug 2019 #27

Oh c'mon. It's just one little gaffe. progressoid Aug 2019 #28

More from the article Autumn Aug 2019 #29

omg This can't be hand waved away... bluewater Aug 2019 #52

It gets worse. nt Autumn Aug 2019 #55

I would much rather hear how he's going to stop banksters from ripping off customers yaesu Aug 2019 #31

Won't help Buttigieg and won't fatally wound Biden. emmaverybo Aug 2019 #36

I don't like him doing that duforsure Aug 2019 #38

Yet he is the only clear front-runner... Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #42

Weird coming from a Warren supporter... Drunken Irishman Aug 2019 #44

It's not wrong to hope Joe Turin_C3PO Aug 2019 #48

Again, I Ask.."what does this mean"? Funtatlaguy Aug 2019 #40

What it means to me is Biden has done so much and met so many people and been told so many highplainsdem Aug 2019 #61

So you are saying its natural that Biden gets this confused? bluewater Aug 2019 #69

Well it's probably not witchcraft/supernatural, so ... yeah, it's 'natural' ... mr_lebowski Aug 2019 #77

I'm saying that all of us tend to get lots of things confused. See this New Yorker article about highplainsdem Aug 2019 #80

the good ole boys having coffee around the table embellish and tell tall tales questionseverything Aug 2019 #109

But yet the experiences of ordinary people over 70 treestar Aug 2019 #117

do you honestly think the democratic nominee will get by with half of what trump has gotten by with? questionseverything Aug 2019 #124

+1000 bluewater Aug 2019 #126

We would be doing much better with just about anyone. treestar Aug 2019 #132

he has to be better because he wants to be President questionseverything Aug 2019 #135

Yes it is, he's doing about average when it comes to human memory uponit7771 Aug 2019 #164

Yes, anyone with many stories treestar Aug 2019 #116

His campaign needs to review every story that he plans to tell on the stump. SaschaHM Aug 2019 #45

We need to be very careful to not go near the "D" word. Funtatlaguy Aug 2019 #50

The lack of a diagnosis isn't going to stop the GOP from saying it or the press from repeating them. SaschaHM Aug 2019 #60

When I try to figure out what I think about an incident in the Democrat's political world democrank Aug 2019 #46

Same here loyalsister Aug 2019 #74

Another excerpt for those who don't subscribe Autumn Aug 2019 #47

Disqualifying1!11!! BannonsLiver Aug 2019 #49

Honestly, it seems like it could be. bluewater Aug 2019 #54

Sad that some folks spend their days scouring the internet looking for redstateblues Aug 2019 #51

CNN ran it as a breaking news story bluewater Aug 2019 #53

Doesn't take all that much scouring to find the Washington Post melman Aug 2019 #58

This story is starting to be picked up all over the media... bluewater Aug 2019 #71

Good. Folks can decide for themselves whether they give a sh*t what the media thinks... Princetonian Aug 2019 #89

Seems all the leading Candidates beat Trump. Lets go with one with less gaffes. bluewater Aug 2019 #90

That is an old Faux News poll from weeks ago with a higher MOE than Emerson's poll which is recent. Princetonian Aug 2019 #98

hey this chart shows how all the top Dems defeat Trump! Good News! bluewater Aug 2019 #94

Again, that is an old Faux News poll whose MOE is higher than Emerson's poll which is very recent. Princetonian Aug 2019 #99

Fox News Poll is A rated, Emerson Poll is just B+ rated by 538 bluewater Aug 2019 #107

Maybe this will be the one that turns Dems against him!!! redstateblues Aug 2019 #125

His gaffes and lapses have been throwing a wet blanket on his own campaign. bluewater Aug 2019 #128

Just one of many from the Biden bashers redstateblues Aug 2019 #123

Matt Viser's stories since Biden announced in April. Most are negative. The guy's obsessed or LincolnRossiter Aug 2019 #59

And the DU have threads for all of them and responses thereto . . . Iliyah Aug 2019 #68

JFC. We have a President that lies about affairs, phone calls, trade deals... Freethinker65 Aug 2019 #62

This!! I have no doubt that if for ANY reason mr. Biden feels, or his advisors tell him he Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #86

I highly doubt they were deliberate. He's not a liar. blm Aug 2019 #64

Six of the last nine stories Viser wrote for the Post have been about Biden gaffes. highplainsdem Aug 2019 #65

People in the real world don't give a shit but Viser knows it's click bait for VP Joe bashers. Princetonian Aug 2019 #67

Joe is still my guy, but ... PBC_Democrat Aug 2019 #81

This bullsh*t isn't hurting VP Joe. In fact, he is a teflon-coated "regular Joe". Princetonian Aug 2019 #87

Good news! All the leading candidates defeat Trump! bluewater Aug 2019 #95

That old Faux News poll has inferior MOE to Emerson's +/- 2.5% and is from Aug 11-13 not Aug 24-26. Princetonian Aug 2019 #97

This message was self-deleted by its author bluewater Aug 2019 #101

Again, Fox News is A rated, Emerson poll is just B+ rated by 538 bluewater Aug 2019 #108

makes me happy that every one of the beats trump! questionseverything Aug 2019 #129

Me too! bluewater Aug 2019 #130

whoever gets the nomination, we gotta work like we are 10 points down questionseverything Aug 2019 #137

Steven Colbert is already rusty fender Aug 2019 #165

And if we picked apart the stories, records, written material of all the candidates..I have no Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #82

That's my problem. Biden's getting more scrutiny than the rest of the front-runners COMBINED. LincolnRossiter Aug 2019 #88

Yup! You nailed it Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #96

I agree with you on this Otto Lidenbrock Aug 2019 #113

God I'm tired of this guy. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2019 #104

This article is not a good thing. cwydro Aug 2019 #151

This is common. Didn't Dan Rather conflate a couple of things and it cost him his job? LisaM Aug 2019 #105

Exactly...Very well stated..thank you for your sensible post Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #110

I though Dan Rather was fired because he became nuttier than squirrel poop. bluewater Aug 2019 #121

No. Rather did a news report on Bush's "military service" which led to the charge Autumn Aug 2019 #145

And......I'm mixing him up with Brian Williams! LOL. LisaM Aug 2019 #162

After Trump tells 12000 lies why would anyone give doc03 Aug 2019 #111

Why should we assume someone else's memory is exactly correct? treestar Aug 2019 #112

I recall when HRC made a mistake about a war-area visit mcar Aug 2019 #114

Am I wrong to want this type of reporting ecstatic Aug 2019 #127

No, you are not wrong at all. I'm with you 100% Cousin Dupree Aug 2019 #133

No you're not wrong. Otto Lidenbrock Aug 2019 #134

So we've got a bat-shit crazy lying lunatic in the White House who believes that rules and laws Cousin Dupree Aug 2019 #131

Indeed! Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #153

He's Wandering Into Brian Williams Territory Here Me. Aug 2019 #143

Not good. cwydro Aug 2019 #144

Break out the intellectually dishonest ageism accusations tymorial Aug 2019 #146

This is a nothing burger... next. Joe941 Aug 2019 #147

I guess when some are continually supporting those going nowhere, democratisphere Aug 2019 #156

David Axelrod thinks this story might have been an oppo research dump, with the reporters given highplainsdem Aug 2019 #160

So Joe never made that speech? rusty fender Aug 2019 #166

Biden got the important parts of the story correct to the solider who received the medal Gothmog Aug 2019 #167