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Saviolo

(3,321 posts)
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 04:03 PM Aug 2019

"Better than Trump" is just not good enough. [View all]

Hey, everyone! It's primary season! The season when we apparently all tear each other apart. One big defense I see a lot of candidate faithfuls use is "Compared to Trump, s/he's..."

Stop it. We aren't comparing our candidate to Trump. Of course your preferred candidate is better than Trump. Almost anyone would be better than Trump. That is such an absurdly low bar I can't even look at it. Jeb! would be better than Trump right now, that's how low the bar is. GWB would be better than Trump, and I sure as hell don't want that whole mess back.

It's early in the season, there are still a lot (too many) candidates, and it's important that we keep our minds open, and we keep ourselves honest and asking important questions. A lot of us have a favourite candidate, and a lot have still not chosen anyone. It's all valid. But we have to stop with "But compared to Trump..." nonsense. Of course your candidate is better than Trump. The joke is that you'd vote for a ham sandwich over Trump, but keep in mind: Not everyone would. Some people need to be excited to come to the polls. Some people need something strong and tangible to vote FOR, not just to vote against.

Several candidates seem like they'd be very good at righting the ship and getting everything back to how it was before Trump took office. Great! We need that, but remember that there are at-risk communities whose lives still weren't great then, either. Trans people were still dying in the streets. Unarmed POC were being shot by police. The poor were getting poorer and the rich getting richer. Women were losing bodily autonomy. This has been going on under D and R presidents. D and R congress.

Whoever the D candidate is needs to do more than say "I'm going to beat Trump." Of course. Of course we all desire Trump's loss and removal (and hopefully perp walk). But that candidate also has to say "... and we're going to take this country forward. We're going to look after our vulnerable and at-risk communities. We're going to try to address decades (or centuries) of systemic inequality." That is how you get people to vote FOR you, by actually offering something to the people who need it. To the people suffering. Not only that, but you have to do your best to actually deliver.

Sorry for rambling, just some frustration. Whoever the candidate ends up being, they need to be ready to move things forward. We also need to take back the Senate, and GOTV for that race, too.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Likelihood of beating Trump is my #1 criterion for primary candidate. DanTex Aug 2019 #1
x1000 peggysue2 Aug 2019 #14
+2 Celerity Aug 2019 #24
k&r! FiveGoodMen Aug 2019 #2
Agreed. Great post. HerbChestnut Aug 2019 #3
Presidents sign bills they do not make law. What ever plans they talk about has wasupaloopa Aug 2019 #4
What I'm trying to say is: Saviolo Aug 2019 #5
It's not just "better than Trump" as a standard. It's "can he/she beat Trump?" LincolnRossiter Aug 2019 #6
I think any of the top candidates could beat Trump Saviolo Aug 2019 #8
Biden is not the only candidate who could beat Trump Skittles Aug 2019 #9
I'm... myohmy2 Aug 2019 #11
yeah, I hear you Skittles Aug 2019 #17
Is scared a new synonym for gleeful, wishful, hopeful or excited? BannonsLiver Aug 2019 #34
All available data suggest he's the strongest contender. LincolnRossiter Aug 2019 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Aug 2019 #18
I resent being told this early in the process that we have to settle Skittles Aug 2019 #20
To your point... LincolnRossiter Aug 2019 #25
LOL Skittles Aug 2019 #36
Nobody told you that. BannonsLiver Aug 2019 #35
I like Biden, and I agree. nt Tipperary Aug 2019 #26
Excellent summation peggysue2 Aug 2019 #15
"Just win, baby." - Al Davis BannonsLiver Aug 2019 #7
Being able to beat Trump is good enough Vegas Roller Aug 2019 #10
Very true! Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #16
Agree Green Line Aug 2019 #21
I support the candidate who has the best chance at beating Trump. DCofVA Aug 2019 #13
not constantly saying stupid stuff Skittles Aug 2019 #19
Yes it is treestar Aug 2019 #22
Beating Trump is my ONLY goal 5starlib Aug 2019 #23
Any random person off the street probably would be better than Trump. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2019 #27
Whoever stands the best chance of beating trump gets my vote. Paladin Aug 2019 #28
So, if the D candidate is only marginally "better than tRump," stopbush Aug 2019 #29
Nobody is "marginally" better than Trump. All of the candidates The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2019 #30
No, I'm saying everyone on that stage is better than Trump. Saviolo Aug 2019 #31
You're applying the wrong standard; *everybody* is better than Trump. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2019 #32
How much the candidate beats Trump by is largely in our hands. Saviolo Aug 2019 #33
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