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97. That old Faux News poll has inferior MOE to Emerson's +/- 2.5% and is from Aug 11-13 not Aug 24-26.

Thu Aug 29, 2019, 04:07 PM

Aug 2019

You did not provide a link so I could check but I would wager that the Faux News poll's N value and methodology is inferior to Emerson's aug 24-26 poll (seen below) as well.

Emerson's poll data was weighted by age, region, income, and education based on 2016 turnout modeling.

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As he campaigns for president, Joe Biden tells a moving but false war story [View all] brooklynite Aug 2019 OP

I don't think these "mistakes" are intentional but they really make me cringe..n/t monmouth4 Aug 2019 #1

+1 myohmy2 Aug 2019 #157

Meh NYMinute Aug 2019 #2

So when Reagan told inspirational stories that blended plots from war movies he'd been in... brooklynite Aug 2019 #4

Reagan blended fiction NYMinute Aug 2019 #7

No, not really. Most fiction is a blend of reality. When Biden combines three stories pnwmom Aug 2019 #12

I enjoyed listening to him speaking. Joe is a good storyteller, isn't he? Princetonian Aug 2019 #75

All the leading Dems beat trump though... bluewater Aug 2019 #91

That is an old Faux News poll from weeks ago with a higher MOE than Emerson's poll which is recent. Princetonian Aug 2019 #100

Fox News Poll is A rated, Emerson poll is just rated B+ bluewater Aug 2019 #106

Yes, because Reagan Democrats and other Americans didn't give a sh*t and still voted for him. Princetonian Aug 2019 #8

What exactly are you saying here? Lordquinton Aug 2019 #24

No. Reagan Democrats were white working class Democrats who voted en masse for Reagan because... Princetonian Aug 2019 #57

The dirty little secret is those Reagan Democrats were mostly union labor. They didn't like Carter still_one Aug 2019 #83

Excellent point. Thank you, still_one for bringing this to light. Princetonian Aug 2019 #85

jimmy carted was screwed ovr with devastating interest rates that basically stopped the economy questionseverything Aug 2019 #102

Reagan Democrats Turin_C3PO Aug 2019 #37

I was using them as an example of unconcerned voters not lauding their character. Princetonian Aug 2019 #66

Yes... sacto95834 Aug 2019 #70

They were labor, pissed off at Carter still_one Aug 2019 #84

Reagan worked out just wonderful for unionised labour Celerity Aug 2019 #118

Yup, that is the irony of the whole thing, and they voted against him when he ran for the still_one Aug 2019 #148

if they voted against him in the 1984 election, they must have been microscopic in number Celerity Aug 2019 #155

Your link doesnt specifically say where those votes came from except they had traditionally still_one Aug 2019 #158

some links on them in regards to 1984 Celerity Aug 2019 #161

are... myohmy2 Aug 2019 #159

YES !!! uponit7771 Aug 2019 #163

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? MattInMN Aug 2019 #119

Now THAT would be a glaring mistake NYMinute Aug 2019 #120

Good lord. Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2019 #3

Biden has been in politics for many years. guillaumeb Aug 2019 #5

Biden is still in the lead and will remain so... Next... Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #6

+1000 emmaverybo Aug 2019 #39

And.....he is still the frontrunner Watchfoxheadexplodes Aug 2019 #9

He told one version of this in 2008, another couple of versions a few times in 2016. Now this one in Autumn Aug 2019 #78

And mistakes of no moment treestar Aug 2019 #136

If Hillary survived "sniper fire," Joe can survive this. (n/t) thesquanderer Aug 2019 #10

Hillary never said she survived sniper fire. I know about the plane trip you're talking about pnwmom Aug 2019 #13

I meant her campaign survived the hubbub about it. thesquanderer Aug 2019 #26

she survived but we didnt win questionseverything Aug 2019 #103

Yup. Voltaire2 Aug 2019 #150

She didn't really survive the hubub mcar Aug 2019 #115

She got the nomination. And Trump didn't really use it against her in the general... thesquanderer Aug 2019 #122

She said she brought peace to Ireland, opened Bosnia's borders, the helicopter she was flying in emmaverybo Aug 2019 #35

I simply do not care. George II Aug 2019 #11

Is Biden the only democrat running? LincolnRossiter Aug 2019 #14

Someone or Twitter said that the media has an addiction to gaffe porn - I agree... Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #15

Josh Marshall nailed it: hlthe2b Aug 2019 #17

Not good melman Aug 2019 #16

Lol... Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #18

Telling false stories is good? melman Aug 2019 #19

Jumbled some details. BFD. It's not like the story glorifies him personally. LincolnRossiter Aug 2019 #21

Except it kind of does melman Aug 2019 #23

Voters don't care. Joe is the most likeable Democrat in the nation, according to Gallup. Princetonian Aug 2019 #32

But all the leading candidates are beating Trump... bluewater Aug 2019 #92

Voters? So voting is already taking place? Bradshaw3 Aug 2019 #138

Jumbling SOME details? The entire story was wrong... bluewater Aug 2019 #56

As I wrote, I don't give a shit. LincolnRossiter Aug 2019 #72

Some people fumble constantly bluewater Aug 2019 #76

Some people get a lot more scrutiny, which was the point of me posting that dipshit's recent LincolnRossiter Aug 2019 #79

As I said...BFD. LincolnRossiter Aug 2019 #154

Have you read the article? cwydro Aug 2019 #149

Actually it was supposed to boost his Voltaire2 Aug 2019 #152

Are you calling Joe Biden a liar? nt UniteFightBack Aug 2019 #139

Are you pretending you didn't see the thread title? melman Aug 2019 #140

Trump is a liar so are you saying Biden is too? nt UniteFightBack Aug 2019 #141

Are you still pretending you didn't see the thread title? melman Aug 2019 #142

Suck it up and swallow??? Autumn Aug 2019 #20

Stay classy, Autumn. May another Sesame Street video will cheer you up. Princetonian Aug 2019 #34

I'm sure it will cheer me up. Did you object to Jill Biden's we have to swallow and vote for Joe? nt Autumn Aug 2019 #41

It's pragmatic given the overwhelming data. And that is not exactly what she said. Context matters. Princetonian Aug 2019 #63

This chart shows all the top tier Dems beating Trump bluewater Aug 2019 #93

At least he's not trying to buy his way into the debates? redstateblues Aug 2019 #43

ZING! Princetonian Aug 2019 #73

I would not care if he was speaking ad hoc. bluedigger Aug 2019 #22

Matt Visar (Co-author) has written 8 stories featuring Biden in August... LincolnRossiter Aug 2019 #25

More importantly True Dough Aug 2019 #30

Matt Visar seems to be a bit desperate and unsuccessful in attaining his desired outcome... Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #33

Pay wall. 4 paragraphs Autumn Aug 2019 #27

Oh c'mon. It's just one little gaffe. progressoid Aug 2019 #28

More from the article Autumn Aug 2019 #29

omg This can't be hand waved away... bluewater Aug 2019 #52

It gets worse. nt Autumn Aug 2019 #55

I would much rather hear how he's going to stop banksters from ripping off customers yaesu Aug 2019 #31

Won't help Buttigieg and won't fatally wound Biden. emmaverybo Aug 2019 #36

I don't like him doing that duforsure Aug 2019 #38

Yet he is the only clear front-runner... Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #42

Weird coming from a Warren supporter... Drunken Irishman Aug 2019 #44

It's not wrong to hope Joe Turin_C3PO Aug 2019 #48

Again, I Ask.."what does this mean"? Funtatlaguy Aug 2019 #40

What it means to me is Biden has done so much and met so many people and been told so many highplainsdem Aug 2019 #61

So you are saying its natural that Biden gets this confused? bluewater Aug 2019 #69

Well it's probably not witchcraft/supernatural, so ... yeah, it's 'natural' ... mr_lebowski Aug 2019 #77

I'm saying that all of us tend to get lots of things confused. See this New Yorker article about highplainsdem Aug 2019 #80

the good ole boys having coffee around the table embellish and tell tall tales questionseverything Aug 2019 #109

But yet the experiences of ordinary people over 70 treestar Aug 2019 #117

do you honestly think the democratic nominee will get by with half of what trump has gotten by with? questionseverything Aug 2019 #124

+1000 bluewater Aug 2019 #126

We would be doing much better with just about anyone. treestar Aug 2019 #132

he has to be better because he wants to be President questionseverything Aug 2019 #135

Yes it is, he's doing about average when it comes to human memory uponit7771 Aug 2019 #164

Yes, anyone with many stories treestar Aug 2019 #116

His campaign needs to review every story that he plans to tell on the stump. SaschaHM Aug 2019 #45

We need to be very careful to not go near the "D" word. Funtatlaguy Aug 2019 #50

The lack of a diagnosis isn't going to stop the GOP from saying it or the press from repeating them. SaschaHM Aug 2019 #60

When I try to figure out what I think about an incident in the Democrat's political world democrank Aug 2019 #46

Same here loyalsister Aug 2019 #74

Another excerpt for those who don't subscribe Autumn Aug 2019 #47

Disqualifying1!11!! BannonsLiver Aug 2019 #49

Honestly, it seems like it could be. bluewater Aug 2019 #54

Sad that some folks spend their days scouring the internet looking for redstateblues Aug 2019 #51

CNN ran it as a breaking news story bluewater Aug 2019 #53

Doesn't take all that much scouring to find the Washington Post melman Aug 2019 #58

This story is starting to be picked up all over the media... bluewater Aug 2019 #71

Good. Folks can decide for themselves whether they give a sh*t what the media thinks... Princetonian Aug 2019 #89

Seems all the leading Candidates beat Trump. Lets go with one with less gaffes. bluewater Aug 2019 #90

That is an old Faux News poll from weeks ago with a higher MOE than Emerson's poll which is recent. Princetonian Aug 2019 #98

hey this chart shows how all the top Dems defeat Trump! Good News! bluewater Aug 2019 #94

Again, that is an old Faux News poll whose MOE is higher than Emerson's poll which is very recent. Princetonian Aug 2019 #99

Fox News Poll is A rated, Emerson Poll is just B+ rated by 538 bluewater Aug 2019 #107

Maybe this will be the one that turns Dems against him!!! redstateblues Aug 2019 #125

His gaffes and lapses have been throwing a wet blanket on his own campaign. bluewater Aug 2019 #128

Just one of many from the Biden bashers redstateblues Aug 2019 #123

Matt Viser's stories since Biden announced in April. Most are negative. The guy's obsessed or LincolnRossiter Aug 2019 #59

And the DU have threads for all of them and responses thereto . . . Iliyah Aug 2019 #68

JFC. We have a President that lies about affairs, phone calls, trade deals... Freethinker65 Aug 2019 #62

This!! I have no doubt that if for ANY reason mr. Biden feels, or his advisors tell him he Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #86

I highly doubt they were deliberate. He's not a liar. blm Aug 2019 #64

Six of the last nine stories Viser wrote for the Post have been about Biden gaffes. highplainsdem Aug 2019 #65

People in the real world don't give a shit but Viser knows it's click bait for VP Joe bashers. Princetonian Aug 2019 #67

Joe is still my guy, but ... PBC_Democrat Aug 2019 #81

This bullsh*t isn't hurting VP Joe. In fact, he is a teflon-coated "regular Joe". Princetonian Aug 2019 #87

Good news! All the leading candidates defeat Trump! bluewater Aug 2019 #95

That old Faux News poll has inferior MOE to Emerson's +/- 2.5% and is from Aug 11-13 not Aug 24-26. Princetonian Aug 2019 #97

This message was self-deleted by its author bluewater Aug 2019 #101

Again, Fox News is A rated, Emerson poll is just B+ rated by 538 bluewater Aug 2019 #108

makes me happy that every one of the beats trump! questionseverything Aug 2019 #129

Me too! bluewater Aug 2019 #130

whoever gets the nomination, we gotta work like we are 10 points down questionseverything Aug 2019 #137

Steven Colbert is already rusty fender Aug 2019 #165

And if we picked apart the stories, records, written material of all the candidates..I have no Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #82

That's my problem. Biden's getting more scrutiny than the rest of the front-runners COMBINED. LincolnRossiter Aug 2019 #88

Yup! You nailed it Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #96

I agree with you on this Otto Lidenbrock Aug 2019 #113

God I'm tired of this guy. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2019 #104

This article is not a good thing. cwydro Aug 2019 #151

This is common. Didn't Dan Rather conflate a couple of things and it cost him his job? LisaM Aug 2019 #105

Exactly...Very well stated..thank you for your sensible post Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #110

I though Dan Rather was fired because he became nuttier than squirrel poop. bluewater Aug 2019 #121

No. Rather did a news report on Bush's "military service" which led to the charge Autumn Aug 2019 #145

And......I'm mixing him up with Brian Williams! LOL. LisaM Aug 2019 #162

After Trump tells 12000 lies why would anyone give doc03 Aug 2019 #111

Why should we assume someone else's memory is exactly correct? treestar Aug 2019 #112

I recall when HRC made a mistake about a war-area visit mcar Aug 2019 #114

Am I wrong to want this type of reporting ecstatic Aug 2019 #127

No, you are not wrong at all. I'm with you 100% Cousin Dupree Aug 2019 #133

No you're not wrong. Otto Lidenbrock Aug 2019 #134

So we've got a bat-shit crazy lying lunatic in the White House who believes that rules and laws Cousin Dupree Aug 2019 #131

Indeed! Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #153

He's Wandering Into Brian Williams Territory Here Me. Aug 2019 #143

Not good. cwydro Aug 2019 #144

Break out the intellectually dishonest ageism accusations tymorial Aug 2019 #146

This is a nothing burger... next. Joe941 Aug 2019 #147

I guess when some are continually supporting those going nowhere, democratisphere Aug 2019 #156

David Axelrod thinks this story might have been an oppo research dump, with the reporters given highplainsdem Aug 2019 #160

So Joe never made that speech? rusty fender Aug 2019 #166

Biden got the important parts of the story correct to the solider who received the medal Gothmog Aug 2019 #167