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lapucelle

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115. The link is to a sweet puff piece in the Sierra Club magazine.

Thu Aug 29, 2019, 05:43 PM

Aug 2019

It is not a white paper, and Varshini Prakash is not cited as a "top environmentalist" in any part of the profile. Her chief accomplishment appears to have been "making headlines" and "attempting to shift the center of gravity" (?) by "making big moments".

The Sierra Club magazine puff piece charitably makes no mention of the "big moment" her organization manufactured last February which led to condemnation for having coached and used children to stage a "confrontation" with a senator and then releasing a doctored video of the encounter.

"But Sierra Club magazine did a profile!" is a far cry from "she is cited as an expert in scientific papers".

The critique on the grounds of cogency still stands, as does the evaluation of the claim of Varshini Prakash's purported "expertise" on climate science as an falling into the category of fallacious appeal rather than a logical argument.

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Bernie Sanders Gets a D- for His Climate Plan [View all] lapucelle Aug 2019 OP

Great opener. Can't take this guy seriously when he uses language like that. HerbChestnut Aug 2019 #1

You have a problem with Mother Jones? yardwork Aug 2019 #39

I have a problem with the way this reporter wrote their article. HerbChestnut Aug 2019 #55

No nuclear power?! We'll solve the climate crisis without Hortensis Aug 2019 #76

Nuclear doesn't seem that useful Bradical79 Aug 2019 #94

This is part of the problem, not a solution. If we'd elected Democrats Hortensis Aug 2019 #95

Seems subsidizing nuclear may have been a bad decision Bradical79 Aug 2019 #96

Bradical, China's "footprint" per person was extremely low Hortensis Aug 2019 #97

Whereas other people do take Cha Aug 2019 #113

Who the heck is Kevin Drum? roody Aug 2019 #2

Notorious Bernie hater. Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2019 #4

Kevin Drum writes for Mother Jones lapucelle Aug 2019 #12

Thank you! I'll take a "Bernie hater" over the pool Amimnoch Aug 2019 #20

Yay.. Well said! Cha Aug 2019 #67

+1 betsuni Aug 2019 #68

NOT LEFT ENOUGH! George II Aug 2019 #104

lol Cha Aug 2019 #116

You have a problem with Mother Jones? yardwork Aug 2019 #38

Anyone who dissents even slightly from Senator Sanders' statements is automatically ehrnst Aug 2019 #81

Nah.. he just doesn't like Cha Aug 2019 #61

Well, it was only a matter of time before Mother Jones got thrown under the bus. LanternWaste Aug 2019 #69

Yep. You are correct. Mother Jones is spinning in her grave that the magazine .... Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2019 #70

It appears that anyone who disagrees with Senator Sanders gets thrown under the bus ehrnst Aug 2019 #82

Nah.. just a journalist doing his job. Cha Aug 2019 #84

Get This. sheshe2 Aug 2019 #103

+1 betsuni Aug 2019 #107

Thanks, betsuni. sheshe2 Aug 2019 #108

Just when you think you've reached the bottom of the kill-the-messenger barrel, betsuni Aug 2019 #110

Unbelievable. sheshe2 Aug 2019 #111

Banning nuclear power is the stupidest part ... it absolutely should be part of the equation mr_lebowski Aug 2019 #3

Agreed about the nuclear power part. HerbChestnut Aug 2019 #5

On this we agree, but I doubt you will get a consensus still_one Aug 2019 #6

Indeed. And if weren't facing a GLOBAL extinction event I'd be thinking differently mr_lebowski Aug 2019 #9

I wholeheartedly agree. Politically I think it is difficult to add it to the list of still_one Aug 2019 #11

We STILL don't have flying cars. OilemFirchen Aug 2019 #22

Agreed... SidDithers Aug 2019 #48

Post removed Post removed Aug 2019 #10

Yes, I absolutely am. mr_lebowski Aug 2019 #13

Tells you a lot when they would rather have a nuclear power plant, than a green new deal. bahrbearian Aug 2019 #17

I think you missed this part. "it absolutely should be part of the equation" Eko Aug 2019 #27

It takes 12 years to put a reactor on line, "we are just not going to get there in enough time" bahrbearian Aug 2019 #44

It can be done in 2 years by speeding up the permitting process. nt NYMinute Aug 2019 #53

it takes 1 year alone to prep the land and 5 years to build, bahrbearian Aug 2019 #56

The American Nuclear Insurers (ANI) currently writes all nuclear liability policies. TexasTowelie Aug 2019 #109

You are simply wrong that there's nothing 'green' about nuclear power ... nt mr_lebowski Aug 2019 #32

I agree , completely. bahrbearian Aug 2019 #45

People should do some research into nuclear power, they'd be very surprised how safe and.... George II Aug 2019 #46

India has an ambitious plan NYMinute Aug 2019 #54

This is a very uninformed post. Sorry, but there it is. yardwork Aug 2019 #59

What an insulting comment... Drunken Irishman Aug 2019 #18

Ontario gets more than 80% from Nuclear... SidDithers Aug 2019 #49

Gasp. Has anyone told Greenpeace?! yardwork Aug 2019 #60

I used to love that Cha Aug 2019 #89

the cooling systems for nuclear need to have wind back up power questionseverything Aug 2019 #30

Most of those "socialist" European countries Sanders' fans love make heavy use of nuclear brooklynite Aug 2019 #19

Agreed. Nuclear power should absolutely be part of the equation. (eom) StevieM Aug 2019 #21

Right. In an extremely complex issue, this at least is simple Hortensis Aug 2019 #79

I found this post by NNadir quite enlightening & on-point from a scientific standpoint. Tarheel_Dem Aug 2019 #7

Thank you for sharing that. lapucelle Aug 2019 #15

You're quite welcome. Tarheel_Dem Aug 2019 #23

Careful, Eko Aug 2019 #28

Yeah, I agree with NNadir on the need for some nuclear power as things stand ... mr_lebowski Aug 2019 #31

Thanks, but I'll take my chances. Tarheel_Dem Aug 2019 #37

I've always been a fan of NNadir... SidDithers Aug 2019 #50

Where's the scientific standpoint? Lordquinton Aug 2019 #62

Thank you, Tarheel! Cha Aug 2019 #112

Kick mcar Aug 2019 #8

Wow.. mahalo, lapucelle. Cha Aug 2019 #14

The C- that the same yo-yo gave Elizabeth Warren for her climate plan is nothing to write home about mtnsnake Aug 2019 #16

Actually Kevin Drum gives good reasons for his opinion.. Cha Aug 2019 #33

And, what's wrong with being "a huge fan Cha Aug 2019 #65

I will wait on that answer as well Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #78

.. Cha Aug 2019 #83

Do you have a link for that, mtnsnake? Cha Aug 2019 #73

The LCV is cheering all climate discussion on, thrilled (their word Hortensis Aug 2019 #77

Bogus headline. Eric J in MN Aug 2019 #24

This message was self-deleted by its author JudyM Aug 2019 #35

Journalists writing for Mother Jones are not "bloggers." yardwork Aug 2019 #42

Kevin Drum calls himself a blogger. Eric J in MN Aug 2019 #57

You're continuing to illustrate my point. yardwork Aug 2019 #58

No one is saying anything about Mother Jones Lordquinton Aug 2019 #63

I'm reading the posts in this thread differently from you. yardwork Aug 2019 #64

Why is any criticism of Berne an attack. wasupaloopa Aug 2019 #105

I thought Mother Jones was the one place immune to attacking the messenger. betsuni Aug 2019 #66

Well, if they give BS a D-.. Cha Aug 2019 #74

So on Teh Corporate Media Conglomerate enemies list they go! betsuni Aug 2019 #75

It figures. The contempt for science at Greenpeace is incredible and the fact that the media... NNadir Aug 2019 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author yardwork Aug 2019 #41

I give him an F nt NYMinute Aug 2019 #25

K&R Gothmog Aug 2019 #26

Seven minute abs again. betsuni Aug 2019 #29

Perfect! yardwork Aug 2019 #40

I believe so. NurseJackie Aug 2019 #72

That seems like an unreasonably high grade to me. n/t. NNadir Aug 2019 #34

BS plan Vegas Roller Aug 2019 #43

It seems like there are a fair number of people who think Trump has been acting hughee99 Aug 2019 #47

LOL. I'll take the League of Conservation Votersand Greenpeace opinion over Mother Jones any day. vsrazdem Aug 2019 #51

Or Stanford's director of their Atmosphere and Energy program Bradical79 Aug 2019 #93

K&R sheshe2 Aug 2019 #52

I guess a "D" is better than an "I" NurseJackie Aug 2019 #71

Indeed. (nt) ehrnst Aug 2019 #80

How About We Confer With A Top Environmentalist? corbettkroehler Aug 2019 #85

Wait...what? Varshini Prakash is a "top environmentalist"? lapucelle Aug 2019 #86

The World's Old Grassroots Environmental Organization Says So corbettkroehler Aug 2019 #98

Your conclusion doesn't logically follow from the "evidence" you cite. lapucelle Aug 2019 #99

What You Call An Appeal, I Call Citing Proof corbettkroehler Aug 2019 #114

The link is to a sweet puff piece in the Sierra Club magazine. lapucelle Aug 2019 #115

A "top environmentalist" who has been out of college all of four years.... George II Aug 2019 #106

... Scurrilous Aug 2019 #87

Does he have expertise on anything climate related? Bradical79 Aug 2019 #88

In what way is the article "light on any kind of useful analysis" on the BS policy proposal? N/T lapucelle Aug 2019 #91

For one, he says nothing about what Climate goals need to be met Bradical79 Aug 2019 #92

The failure to address "what climate goals need to be met" lapucelle Aug 2019 #100

D+ is way too generous... comradebillyboy Aug 2019 #90

drum was right about something one time. Kurt V. Aug 2019 #101

Even if Bernie's plan were not a fairytale, it could wasupaloopa Aug 2019 #102