Democratic Primaries

hlthe2b

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25. What I said is that without long-term objective comparative study, such differences

Thu Aug 29, 2019, 07:16 PM

Aug 2019

would be hard to prove.
The factors I described may well induce forgetfulness and distraction in most anyone at any age. So is it differences within individuals, closer observation of one over the other, or a moment in time occurrence that makes one person APPEAR more forgetful and prone to the conflation of memories than another?

Proving differences in verbal acuity, intellect, and short term memory (standardized tests for example) is certainly doable as those can be objectively measured. Proving differences in people based on long term memory accuracy-- independent of anything else or any other factor-- is far more difficult, especially on a population basis.

Proving a loss of such functions over time within the same individual is certainly doable. One need only go to old video of Trump to document this phenomenon.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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For anyone wondering why Biden (or anyone else, of any age) can get details of a story wrong... [View all] highplainsdem Aug 2019 OP

I've done this with emotionally charged moments 5-10 years in the past--including incidents LincolnRossiter Aug 2019 #1

This!! Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #41

Agree. Perfectly stated, especially in an event-filled life. Hortensis Aug 2019 #85

Does the article say why it happens more often for one individual than another? bluewater Aug 2019 #2

That would be hard to prove. Put the spotlight on whomever you believe never manifests this, hlthe2b Aug 2019 #4

True Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #42

There's no reason to believe it happens a lot more to some people. Some people are simply more highplainsdem Aug 2019 #6

"There's no reason to believe it happens a lot more to some people." bluewater Aug 2019 #11

see my post 7 hlthe2b Aug 2019 #12

oops bluewater Aug 2019 #17

This message was self-deleted by its author hlthe2b Aug 2019 #19

Let me help you navigate NYMinute Aug 2019 #20

So you are saying you agree with me? Some individuals do have worse memories? bluewater Aug 2019 #22

What I said is that without long-term objective comparative study, such differences hlthe2b Aug 2019 #25

Oh, absolutely, such differences would be hard to definitively prove. bluewater Aug 2019 #29

LOL! So you're suggesting that all the other 20 or so candidates are so weak that Biden would have highplainsdem Aug 2019 #32

Without his constant gaffes and memory lapses Biden WOULD be polling better. bluewater Aug 2019 #33

Honey.. you must not have seen the new polls from yesterday Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #44

Your conclusion is a logical fallacy. LanternWaste Aug 2019 #73

Do you have objective numbers of gaffes v gaffes within the field of Dem candidates? LanternWaste Aug 2019 #72

It may not always be due to age or cognitive problems but virgogal Aug 2019 #3

Say whhaaaaat?!? jcgoldie Aug 2019 #5

Well, since you're a Warren supporter you must be concerned that a woman her age is about twice as highplainsdem Aug 2019 #10

So much for considering INDIVIDUALS and their cognitive abilities, hmmm? bluewater Aug 2019 #14

you really think all your negativity is of service to your candidate of choice? Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #47

I don't understand this line of argument. cwydro Aug 2019 #64

Two points jcgoldie Aug 2019 #30

I'm not that impressed by Warren's constant repetition of the same talking points. highplainsdem Aug 2019 #35

Agree...she's smart but she doesn't begin to come close to HRC Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #48

The article posted was not about any virgogal Aug 2019 #34

but how much do they matter treestar Aug 2019 #82

I've not seen one single indicator that Warren is anything but sharp as a tack. cwydro Aug 2019 #57

once you are over 50 treestar Aug 2019 #83

It's not the dates so much, but saying "we can lose a vice-president?" cwydro Aug 2019 #84

And the incidence of Alzheimers, just one example, DOUBLES every 5 years after pnwmom Aug 2019 #39

Sorry, that is your experience. Projecting its effects on an entire population cohort is ridiculous. hlthe2b Aug 2019 #7

Yeah, it's normal esp. for someone his age Bradical79 Aug 2019 #8

I think campaign staffs for all candidates should check for accuracy of details, statistics, etc. highplainsdem Aug 2019 #15

Yep Bradical79 Aug 2019 #24

That is not a horrible thing when it comes to stories treestar Aug 2019 #81

Agree!! Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #49

I grew up in a family of four boys (and two sisters), all four boys were three years apart.... George II Aug 2019 #9

Sounds like my mother...and most mothers who have more than one child. highplainsdem Aug 2019 #23

LOL my mother did that too treestar Aug 2019 #77

And also, getting this story exactly right treestar Aug 2019 #13

Very good point! highplainsdem Aug 2019 #71

Actually, he has attended so many of those events and heard so many stories NYMinute Aug 2019 #16

This is exactly why eyewitness testimony is actually *less* reliable The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2019 #18

Exacttly. That article refers to how unreliable eyewitness testimony can be, even when the witness highplainsdem Aug 2019 #21

i have a business where i see a lot of different people JI7 Aug 2019 #26

This!! The last of professional years in the medical field I had a private counseling practice Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #51

Like The Time I Forgot Anita Hill Wasn't On Trial DrFunkenstein Aug 2019 #27

Ow! True Dough Aug 2019 #56

Biden wasn't on trial either treestar Aug 2019 #76

No Biden Wasn't On Trial - He Was The Chairman of The Hearings DrFunkenstein Aug 2019 #86

Well it's a stretch to blame him for Kavanaugh treestar Aug 2019 #90

Because we're human! elleng Aug 2019 #28

This is wrongly conflating two separate cognitive processes Bradshaw3 Aug 2019 #31

You are entitled to your opinion...and that's all it is...an opinion Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #38

No, scientific research is more than an opinion Bradshaw3 Aug 2019 #43

Yup!, the last paragraph is pure conjecture, people comparing the dotard to Biden and jumping Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #52

Uh, ok Bradshaw3 Aug 2019 #59

Look at the last paragraph of your comment..post #31 Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #87

rump's cognation is clearly inferior to Biden's even if you want too question treestar Aug 2019 #74

What's the problem? SCVDem Aug 2019 #36

Correct! Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #53

Still loyalsister Aug 2019 #37

Give it a rest Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #40

Really? You are going to tell another poster to give it a rest? ChubbyStar Aug 2019 #45

I would ask you, go thru the posts here and look at the number of Biden supporters that are blasting Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #55

Sorry, my argument has merit even if you disagree ChubbyStar Aug 2019 #58

Your right there is no e. Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #60

that would be you're ChubbyStar Aug 2019 #61

The other candidates aren't making these continuous mistakes. cwydro Aug 2019 #62

This message was self-deleted by its author jcgoldie Aug 2019 #93

"Slim to none" Lordquinton Aug 2019 #70

It is cool to go on about your candidate treestar Aug 2019 #80

This!! Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #88

No you wouldn't Bradshaw3 Aug 2019 #46

Yes, your opinion and your definitely entitled to it Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #54

Biden is older than the others treestar Aug 2019 #78

What is it with posters telling others what to post or not lately? cwydro Aug 2019 #65

it shows emphatic opposition treestar Aug 2019 #79

That's pretending all of our candidates are the same, and they're not. n/t pnwmom Aug 2019 #66

he doesn't have the same stump speech he gives all the time and he spends JI7 Aug 2019 #50

Didn't stop him from being a great VP, one of the most powerful and active in decades. NT emmaverybo Aug 2019 #63

No more powerful or active than Al Gore, who -- like Hillary -- pnwmom Aug 2019 #67

Biden worked more closely with Obama than Gore with Clinton. This went along with Biden emmaverybo Aug 2019 #68

That's the idea Biden wants to promote. I haven't seen any evidence of that. pnwmom Aug 2019 #69

Not just Biden promoting. emmaverybo Aug 2019 #89

good article here about aging brains treestar Aug 2019 #75

+1,000,000. Thanks for posting that! highplainsdem Aug 2019 #91

Biden got the important part of the story correct according to the person who recieved the medal Gothmog Aug 2019 #92

Yeah, I got details of at story wrong decades ago elocs Aug 2019 #94

This is why they interview victims and witnesses to a crime immediately. milestogo Sep 2019 #95

And they worry about Biden's verbal gaffes? The president is a category 5 disaster Gothmog Sep 2019 #96

"Voters just don't care... they think that he's an honorable man..." Gothmog Sep 2019 #97