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highplainsdem

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78. She got incredibly positive media coverage for that attack on Biden. That might have

Sun Sep 1, 2019, 04:23 PM

Sep 2019

swayed some people who later changed their minds...especially after the stories about the attack having been planned and rehearsed came out. Though the fact it was pre-planned was obvious when her campaign tweeted out a childhood photo within minutes, and within hours they were peddling their "That little girl was me" t-shirt, and that REALLY alienated a lot of people.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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80 yr old black woman in S. Carolina says Harris and Booker turned her off by attacking Biden [View all] highplainsdem Aug 2019 OP

She's not the only one. Nt LakeArenal Aug 2019 #1

This is exactly what I have been hearing, over and over again. I doubt that this perception will go Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #2

This was predictable by nearly anyone who spent a lot of time in the South. hlthe2b Aug 2019 #3

This is not a good thing, people are making passionate decisions Perseus Aug 2019 #16

I think it is rather arrogant to judge a signficant population group's judgements based on hlthe2b Aug 2019 #21

Agree! After Senator Harris did her I gotcha moment Jim Clyburn & John Lewis pushed back Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #38

He did not celebrate those racist republicans. That's a smear. He Kahuna7 Aug 2019 #27

I wouldn't support a either in a primary who bascially call Biden a racist...and went Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #29

+1000 Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #43

the thing that amazes me.... quickesst Aug 2019 #4

No kidding.. you don't erase decades Cha Aug 2019 #64

I am not surprised by this Gothmog Aug 2019 #5

Booker started strong in the last debate, saying we should stop attacking each other... thesquanderer Aug 2019 #6

K&R nt Vegas Roller Aug 2019 #7

A lot of people make the mistake of not realizing NYMinute Aug 2019 #8

Exactly Green Line Aug 2019 #9

This..they are a very savvy voting block. They see a leader in mr. Biden and the numbers show it Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #10

You nailed it!!! Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #12

We trusted him to do the right thing. We also trust Joe. End of mystery... Kahuna7 Aug 2019 #30

This IS important RO4Warren Aug 2019 #11

I like her, but there really has been little to no shift in the polls of AA voters Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #13

AA didn't support President Obama in 2007 initially. Blue_true Sep 2019 #97

I can't help but wonder StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #110

You may have a point. But one thing is certain, when America takes a turn for the better, Blue_true Sep 2019 #114

I've seen so many posts here about how the next debate will change everything. highplainsdem Aug 2019 #14

This.. I saw lots of posts and other articles how the debates would really shift the polls Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #17

Before the debates Biden was at 32% average support, today he is at 28.9% bluewater Aug 2019 #23

You're right, but not because Biden is leading us anywhere BeyondGeography Aug 2019 #19

"...the soul of America, whatever that is"? No wonder you don't understand why Biden's in the lead. highplainsdem Aug 2019 #25

Bingo!! Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #40

Plus, no big changes for his wealthy contributors BeyondGeography Aug 2019 #47

Please stop repeating this falsehood. This has been debunked on DU and elsewhere. Joe told the Skya Rhen Sep 2019 #66

Spin away, Biden is a corporate-friendly Dem offering a presidency of half-measures BeyondGeography Sep 2019 #68

Dunno, I find Governor Dean pretty credible. emulatorloo Sep 2019 #103

THIS! emmaverybo Aug 2019 #48

Name recognition and it's early is why Biden is in the lead RO4Warren Aug 2019 #54

Welcome to DU BeyondGeography Aug 2019 #60

Thanks! I'm not a Democrat, but I am a Warren Democrat! n/t RO4Warren Aug 2019 #65

The ideas the Warren champions like MFA and free college will never pass so why should i support Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #32

Me too! But indeed will vote blue regardless Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #44

Blue no matter who....always. Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #71

These things CAN and SHOULD pass... RO4Warren Aug 2019 #55

And let's acknowledge a debt to the best President of the last... 50 years? YES WE CAN! RO4Warren Aug 2019 #56

We have 40 moderates in the house...it won't pass there and if we get the Senate...they too will be Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #70

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"Debating isn't leadership." Bears repeating. Next president will not be debating Kim Jun Un and emmaverybo Aug 2019 #42

Oh gosh my heavens!! A voice of sanity... thank you! Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #45

The Bully Pulpit and How it Will Be Used. RO4Warren Aug 2019 #59

Our greatest Presidents RO4Warren Aug 2019 #61

Reagan??? Seriously????????? n/t GP6971 Aug 2019 #62

If you ask Republicans, of course! Or historians. Or "Reagan Democrats". RO4Warren Aug 2019 #63

I agree that public speaking is an important candidate skill. In fact, in Obama's case, in which emmaverybo Sep 2019 #74

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Personality does matter, but in television debate, not so much on the world stage. Did Bush's emmaverybo Sep 2019 #80

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Warren is the more intellectual of the two. Biden has never been an academic. He is, however, far emmaverybo Sep 2019 #85

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Obama chose Biden in great part for his FP cred. I'd argue that we are in such a perilous situation emmaverybo Sep 2019 #92

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Clinton was not a real player ever in FP though she had made extravagant claims to having been emmaverybo Sep 2019 #98

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Alright. Thanks too. I accept your points about Secretary of State Clinton, emmaverybo Sep 2019 #102

Truman, Eisenhower, Johnson... Drunken Irishman Sep 2019 #83

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They say Lincoln would not have been elected in the age of television debate. Not even radio. Now emmaverybo Sep 2019 #107

I think the main problem will be people not bothering to vote which will guarantee 4 more for tRump. yaesu Aug 2019 #22

Policy promises don't win elections redstateblues Aug 2019 #35

I too think the September debate will measurably redo the race. Blue_true Sep 2019 #96

Well I see people are vetting their candidates by the issues, not!...yesterday someone in DU said Perseus Aug 2019 #15

Are you discounting the opinion of one 80 year old woman? bluewater Aug 2019 #18

Oh, the poor lambs. Biden did a helluva lot more good that affected Kahuna7 Aug 2019 #31

I see that, IMHO it has to do more with a sense of fair play. Which I think is a good quality Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #33

Intesting Andy823 Sep 2019 #69

I completely disagree...and a post like this which is pretty condescending isn't going to persuade Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #36

Yup! Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #41

That was me and I stand by it. redstateblues Aug 2019 #39

+100,000,000 Skya Rhen Sep 2019 #73

well, lets hope she votes blue no matter who, hurt feelings got us tRump the last time. nt yaesu Aug 2019 #20

A person who can't win the AA community should not be our nominee ...it is an important constiuency. Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #37

Biden was humble and dignified while being smeared... Kahuna7 Aug 2019 #24

"Don't climb by trying to push somebody else down" crazytown Aug 2019 #26

Made me turn against them too. katmondoo Aug 2019 #28

It human nature! Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #34

Yes, but an 80.5 year old black woman in Peoria said it didn't turn her off. Squinch Aug 2019 #46

It has been established that more than one potential member of the AA electorate was turned off. emmaverybo Aug 2019 #50

Your snark is not a good look. I doubt your candidate is like that redstateblues Sep 2019 #105

The OP which has n equals 1 is not a good look, either. Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2019 #113

Harris and Booker launched cheap shots against Biden, and that's what is disgraceful 5starlib Aug 2019 #49

Booker also had telegraphed his racial smears on twitter for weeks. nt Kahuna7 Aug 2019 #57

Agree. Mrs. Means hit the nail on the head onetexan Sep 2019 #111

I'm with her. treestar Aug 2019 #51

And, I don't think Mary Means was the Cha Aug 2019 #52

Totally DemKittyNC Aug 2019 #53

I'm no soothsayer, but I predicted there would be backlash after the initial sugar high. And it... Tarheel_Dem Aug 2019 #58

SOP is to back off and start saying conciliatory things, crazytown Sep 2019 #67

Good on ya, Tarheel! Those were Cha Sep 2019 #91

K&R Scurrilous Sep 2019 #72

I was surprised that Harris climbed after that debate. cilla4progress Sep 2019 #77

She got incredibly positive media coverage for that attack on Biden. That might have highplainsdem Sep 2019 #78

My 90-something-year-old black father was glad Harris challenged Biden. Does he cancel Means out? StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #79

Look at the catastrophic plummet in her poll numbers - something caused this and we know what... Skya Rhen Sep 2019 #81

Yeah, it looks like the majority were/are Cha Sep 2019 #93

+1000 Skya Rhen Sep 2019 #99

Joe Joe evertonfc Sep 2019 #84

Clearly, Biden supporters should welcome more attacks if this is true. aikoaiko Sep 2019 #86

They would most assuredly solidify and galvanize his support, which is already strong... Skya Rhen Sep 2019 #87

At this point, I think the only one who can bring down Joe with an attack is Elizabeth Warren. aikoaiko Sep 2019 #88

It's worth a try... Skya Rhen Sep 2019 #89

Maybe in the next debate all the candidates should attack Obama again. That seemed to work well redstateblues Sep 2019 #106

Reporters are saying voters are telling them they do NOT want the candidates attacking one another highplainsdem Sep 2019 #101

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I don't believe she'll get the nomination, and if she did, I believe she'd be a much weaker highplainsdem Sep 2019 #109

Same with me. I'm a late 50ish, college educated white suburban woman. Kamela Harris intrigued me at ReformedGOPer Sep 2019 #108

Kick for Mary "you're my man" Means! Cha Sep 2019 #112