Democratic Primaries

LincolnRossiter

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116. I shopped for, enrolled in, and pay for my Blue Cross Blue Shield like any other consumer. I'd have

Sun Sep 1, 2019, 07:52 PM

Sep 2019

to know what others are paying for a plan similar to mine before I can judge what kind of sweet deal I’m getting. It was advertised to us as competitive.

Check it out for yourself.

https://www.opm.gov/healthcare-insurance/healthcare/

And FWIW, federal employees and military also pay taxes. So our benefits are paid for by we, the taxpayer, as well.

And you’re making my point for. I do love my private insurance, so I should be able to keep it. If someone is uninsured, underinsured, overpaying, or just hates their plan for whatever reason, then they should choose to be covered by the notional national public option (whether it’s called Medicare or not).

And again, the Scandinavian countries have private insurance in addition to state-funded care. Do some research.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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The idea that Democrats should make it their priority to get us back to "normal" is worse than naive [View all] BeyondGeography Sep 2019 OP

normal is what got us here. rampartc Sep 2019 #1

+1 Meadowoak Sep 2019 #2

I disagree DownriverDem Sep 2019 #15

+1000. The author opens his argument calling others naive. LincolnRossiter Sep 2019 #27

According to the polls and statistics, most Americans ARE PROGRESSIVE Perseus Sep 2019 #39

First, most Americans support Healthcare coverage for all. They absolutely do not support the LincolnRossiter Sep 2019 #58

Not true, a talking point by insurance comps and republicans "people loving their paid insurances" Perseus Sep 2019 #84

Some people absolutely are satisfied with their private insurance. LincolnRossiter Sep 2019 #91

I never said this "you need to get out more to gain a wider perspective" I said meet people or read Perseus Sep 2019 #103

In the Navy I had "universal healthcare." As a DoS employee I have private insurance. LincolnRossiter Sep 2019 #106

Friends I have who were in the Navy, Army, etc. get healthcare for life Perseus Sep 2019 #108

What the VA offers can be very limited. Most veterans that live in non-urban areas have to travel Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #130

I shopped for, enrolled in, and pay for my Blue Cross Blue Shield like any other consumer. I'd have LincolnRossiter Sep 2019 #116

Outside of extended benefits, Canada does not have a private option Fiendish Thingy Sep 2019 #127

"Extended benefits," paid for by private insurance, apparently include at least some prescription LincolnRossiter Sep 2019 #131

Some are satisfied. Although I would pay higher taxes so all could be covered, I want to keep emmaverybo Sep 2019 #107

And I forgot to say this Perseus Sep 2019 #85

And you propose to cut military spending how? Not a winning proposal for Dems who for decades emmaverybo Sep 2019 #128

most Americans don't matter treestar Sep 2019 #75

Really? Then perhaps you could explain the GOP'S having more states than us, more Senators...and Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #89

You're basically summarizing what "normal" is. BlueWI Sep 2019 #93

No, the voters who agree with us live in cities...dense population...but the Senate is not based on Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #96

District boundaries vary, but there's still only one electorate that votes for all offices. BlueWI Sep 2019 #117

"Elizabeth Warren will get wiped out in a GE????" moreland01 Sep 2019 #43

If she's nominated I sincerely hope to eat those words. LincolnRossiter Sep 2019 #56

The polls show you are completely wrong Bradshaw3 Sep 2019 #102

A couple of things.. LincolnRossiter Sep 2019 #104

You continue using RW talking points to bash Warren Bradshaw3 Sep 2019 #115

I don't see any Biden supporters here bashing Warren in the true sense IMHO Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #133

You are not paying attention and your "point" about AA voters is wrong Bradshaw3 Sep 2019 #136

You open your statement with labeling voters as Far Left. BlueWI Sep 2019 #52

Stop labeling Democrats as far left! KPN Sep 2019 #62

I didn't mean it as an insult. Just distinguishing between moderates and progressives. LincolnRossiter Sep 2019 #67

It is an insult, and ammunition for republicans Perseus Sep 2019 #86

Well negative connotation in rightwing circles notwithstanding, far left is a mundane colloquial LincolnRossiter Sep 2019 #95

No evidence to support your assertion about Warren Fiendish Thingy Sep 2019 #129

I don't think those polls hold. Not even for Biden. There aren't going to be any 16 pt wins LincolnRossiter Sep 2019 #132

Good points.. thx for posting Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #134

I dislike that media generated (FOX News generated) locution "Far Left." NNadir Sep 2019 #55

Exactly. It's inexcusable for any Democrat here KPN Sep 2019 #64

No, and neither are we. Stop labeling fellow KPN Sep 2019 #60

We need someone with the character & leadership of Biden to restore OUR sanity. Gothmog Sep 2019 #114

Without question...why Bernie & his progressive vision is what We The People are demanding InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2019 #19

+100 ewagner Sep 2019 #20

+1 gazillion! rusty fender Sep 2019 #92

What got us here is the backlash to electing a black man as POTUS. lapfog_1 Sep 2019 #101

I think you are sort of right Buckeyeblue Sep 2019 #119

The GOP veered astray of 'normal' quite some time ago. Chemisse Sep 2019 #3

Not a good plan DownriverDem Sep 2019 #16

I don't think Chemisse was "attacking" Obama. kag Sep 2019 #32

There's nothing wrong with assessing Obama's record. BlueWI Sep 2019 #53

Neither is clinging to Obama's coat tails such a good plan Fiendish Thingy Sep 2019 #70

Definitely not attacking Obama. Chemisse Sep 2019 #74

So we should nominate an unelectable ultra left wing candidate NYMinute Sep 2019 #4

Yeah, that'll show them... Skya Rhen Sep 2019 #6

No. We should use the momentum to move left. tecelote Sep 2019 #10

This!! Fo sho!! InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2019 #21

IMO there is no such thing as an "electable, ultra left wing" candidate calguy Sep 2019 #41

Well . . . . moreland01 Sep 2019 #45

What the heck is ultra left wing BlueWI Sep 2019 #87

I agree with the exception of the use and KPN Sep 2019 #65

Good point! tecelote Sep 2019 #105

Unfortunately, using the 2020 election to shift the party on the political spectrum emmaverybo Sep 2019 #109

So who are the ultra left wing candidates? BlueWI Sep 2019 #118

So you won't vote for the primary winner? Alpeduez21 Sep 2019 #11

Why Bernie is the best choice, as the steady swing in the polls is startin to show. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2019 #23

What you are wanting, eradication of the racist culture is what we all want. Probably isn't going to Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #46

Exactly DownriverDem Sep 2019 #17

Who was that far left candidate? Perseus Sep 2019 #31

My reaction, exactly, Perseus! kag Sep 2019 #33

This! Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #47

We ran a "far left candidate and lost big time"? When was this? Autumn Sep 2019 #121

That is not what the article talks about Perseus Sep 2019 #29

+1 n/t area51 Sep 2019 #61

+1000 KPN Sep 2019 #66

Politics is a messy business we all know it... few accept it! Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #135

Actually "electability" is determined by something called "elections." I remember soothsaying... NNadir Sep 2019 #44

great point HeartlandProgressive Sep 2019 #59

Are you referring to a Democrat? KPN Sep 2019 #63

What's needed is clarity on what Democrats stand for BlueWI Sep 2019 #90

The polls all show the top three crushing Shitler. Voltaire2 Sep 2019 #97

Yes we do need to heal and TRY to return back to normal. Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2019 #5

Yeah, who knows BeyondGeography Sep 2019 #7

+1000 Alpeduez21 Sep 2019 #12

LMFAO!! InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2019 #24

Returning to normal is not as difficult as it seems Perseus Sep 2019 #34

Ain't gonna happen. They are out to subjugate KPN Sep 2019 #68

It is the constant lies and inflated emotional appeal that seems to never stop. gordianot Sep 2019 #8

Normal was a dysfunctional mess. Martin Eden Sep 2019 #9

Let us never forget Alpeduez21 Sep 2019 #13

MUCH better, and I know just the ticket... InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2019 #25

Normal in America is racism and misogyny. So true. Merlot Sep 2019 #42

There is no "normal" Roy Rolling Sep 2019 #14

Gollum, the GOP has descended into Gollum RVN VET71 Sep 2019 #18

Of course Biden gets my vote should he win the general, but fortunately, he wont as the steady swing InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2019 #30

+ but the R Party has also the cunning of Sauron, the avarice of Smaug, and an army of orcs! Ponietz Sep 2019 #72

The worst thing Biden has done IMO is revive the fantasy of the reasonable Republican BeyondGeography Sep 2019 #111

Too much advice. ananda Sep 2019 #22

I'd rephrase that by calling it "unnecessary advice" onetexan Sep 2019 #37

I understand normal to mean frazzled Sep 2019 #26

Bingo! pazzyanne Sep 2019 #35

+1. obnoxiousdrunk Sep 2019 #48

You nailed it! Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #49

The GOP ain't going to go there ... nor is KPN Sep 2019 #69

Especially as he has already signaled to them that he wants their approval BeyondGeography Sep 2019 #78

+∞ LongtimeAZDem Sep 2019 #81

When was America normal? brutus smith Sep 2019 #83

Homeostasis Newest Reality Sep 2019 #28

Bravo! Trump is reversing 90 years of progress and 8 years of Obama, but bucolic_frolic Sep 2019 #36

+1 -K&R onetexan Sep 2019 #38

Agree completely. What we have right now KPN Sep 2019 #71

It all takes time no matter who gets in office. world wide wally Sep 2019 #40

Oh my!! A voice of sanity!! Thank you Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #50

Spot on. BlueWI Sep 2019 #51

Joe has been moving us forward for 45 years. So there's THAT! Kahuna7 Sep 2019 #54

This opinion piece uses a lot of rightwing tropes procon Sep 2019 #57

There will be a ton of damage to be repaired after trump is voted out Gothmog Sep 2019 #73

Whose definition of "normal"? 50 Shades Of Blue Sep 2019 #76

Wishful thinking treestar Sep 2019 #77

I guess you missed the part about dumping the filibuster BeyondGeography Sep 2019 #79

The POTUS has no choice in the filibuster treestar Sep 2019 #80

She has called for dumping it BeyondGeography Sep 2019 #82

They would have to have 51 at least, no? treestar Sep 2019 #122

No, you don't like Joe Biden...first of all. And secondly, many folks disagree with you...and it Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #88

The normal that Trump promised is a preObama normal tirebiter Sep 2019 #94

This is nonsense from Pitts and a misrepresentation of Biden, who wants to move this highplainsdem Sep 2019 #98

@JoeBiden is running for President to restore the soul of America. Gothmog Sep 2019 #113

I can only answer this piece with my own sense of 'normal' peggysue2 Sep 2019 #99

I can credit this analysis. In this sense, "normal," as compared to "freak" would be great. n/t. NNadir Sep 2019 #100

Your answer represents what those of us who subscribe to a "return to normal," as one part of emmaverybo Sep 2019 #110

All the leading Democratic candidates would do this. BlueWI Sep 2019 #123

If that's the case . . . peggysue2 Sep 2019 #125

The point is that normal is too low of a bar. BlueWI Sep 2019 #137

Joe Biden will restore and build upon the normalcy and stability that Trump has destroyed Gothmog Sep 2019 #112

IMO, Washington has been broken since about 1994. Obviously, it's much worse now but '94 is when Midwestern Democrat Sep 2019 #120

Fair enough BlueWI Sep 2019 #124

How will Biden fixed the damage done by trump? Gothmog Sep 2019 #126