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OneBro

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156. That's what writers do, and the guy was only 15.

Sat Mar 16, 2019, 09:42 PM

Mar 2019

Most of the "concern" seems to be coming from the same right-wingers who say NOTHING Trump did before his election matters, that his pussy grabbing comments were just locker room talk, and that of all the good Christians in America, Trump is the ONE who was sent by GOD ALMIGHTY to be President of the United States. I'm not interested in hearing jack sh*t from ANY republican on ANYTHING having to do with morality or family values.

Though Beto is way, way, way down on my list of candidates, I think it's utter b.s. that people are taking his writings as a 15 year old and gnashing their teeth as though the guy was actually out running over children. Can the Stephen Kings of the world never run for political office because their writings creep me the f*ck out?

I don't vouch for anyone so I ain't vouching for Beto either, but by all accounts and appearances the guy is in a healthy marriage with an emotionally healthy family. The ONLY reaction I had from reading Beto's writings was the exact same reaction I got from reading books like IT or The Exorcist.

As for my luke warm support of Beto generally, his image and candidacy has not been damaged one iota.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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O'Rourke 'not ... proud' of teenage murder fantasy writing [View all] MelissaB Mar 2019 OP

It does sound a little peculiar Sherman A1 Mar 2019 #1

It is kind of like writing about rape stuff and all. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #3

+1 dalton99a Mar 2019 #7

haha Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #8

Lol qazplm135 Mar 2019 #38

Yes indeed. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #116

Beto was a teenager, not a grown man. I would find it more disturbing if an adult in his 30s did it. lapucelle Mar 2019 #102

I agree. And my daughter wrote the most gruesome stories you would ever want to read as a Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #115

I wrote some dark stuff myself NastyRiffraff Mar 2019 #141

A "little"?? InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #151

Yikes we can do it Mar 2019 #2

yeah, Beto isn't the only one Cha Mar 2019 #4

Beto's fantasy writing will be dropped from the conversation and excused as just fantasy Autumn Mar 2019 #9

O'Rourke's was written when he was a teenager, not when he was a grown adult. George II Mar 2019 #181

+1000. ehrnst Mar 2019 #182

Yes, as Bernie was in his late 20's and early 30's when he wrote his questionable essays emulatorloo Mar 2019 #184

Truly ridiculous. Zoonart Mar 2019 #14

The article and info is out there and will have to be discussed & dealt with. MelissaB Mar 2019 #26

+1 happybird Mar 2019 #57

Such writings can also be red flags MichMary Mar 2019 #96

Laura Bush actually ran a stop sign and killed another kid dalton99a Mar 2019 #16

Intentionally or by accident? mobeau69 Mar 2019 #154

According to her: dalton99a Mar 2019 #159

Thanks. I remember now, this coming up during one of shrub's campaigns. mobeau69 Mar 2019 #163

Not saying there was a connection, but it was an ex-boyfriend of hers. George II Mar 2019 #180

Strikes me as a bit ethereal. David__77 Mar 2019 #5

Yeah, kinda in the same vein as "A Catcher In The Rye" Dennis Donovan Mar 2019 #30

Wow! Andy823 Mar 2019 #6

Wow that is really creepy! MoonRiver Mar 2019 #10

Not so much Loki Liesmith Mar 2019 #13

Really? Not bothered at all? MelissaB Mar 2019 #15

It's weird, but teenagers do weird stuff. bearsfootball516 Mar 2019 #140

I wonder whose campaign did such deep opposition research into Beto to find this. hedda_foil Mar 2019 #11

I think you're right. MelissaB Mar 2019 #17

The question is Andy823 Mar 2019 #22

unless Lazy Daisy Mar 2019 #90

It is a Politico article. The two authors are at ghe top of the article with linkable bios. CentralMass Mar 2019 #105

True, but this kind of thing always comes to the media as a leak from the political opposition hedda_foil Mar 2019 #113

Lol. Ever been an edgy teen? Loki Liesmith Mar 2019 #12

Not even close Andy823 Mar 2019 #18

George Lucas also wrote about killing children Loki Liesmith Mar 2019 #60

And not one of them Andy823 Mar 2019 #82

Weak sauce Loki Liesmith Mar 2019 #87

Keep moving the goalposts.... bless your little heart. LanternWaste Mar 2019 #191

Oh come on Polybius Mar 2019 #162

I can. I did. I will. Loki Liesmith Mar 2019 #169

Yes, but it was absurdly laughable to do so Polybius Mar 2019 #172

Stephen King wrote about killing children Loki Liesmith Mar 2019 #67

Nabokov wrote about fucking children Loki Liesmith Mar 2019 #75

Frank Miller wrote about gassing cub scouts Loki Liesmith Mar 2019 #79

Wes Craven wrote about killing children Loki Liesmith Mar 2019 #88

Yes, and as a former English teacher I read a lot of essays. MelissaB Mar 2019 #19

I think this kind of stuff gets reported to the authorities. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2019 #27

Not pre-Columbine. marylandblue Mar 2019 #47

Not sure. I had a student who wrote about MelissaB Mar 2019 #51

Killing your own teacher is different. Personally scary for the teacher. marylandblue Mar 2019 #61

Yes, it is. MelissaB Mar 2019 #72

Writing about someone else being evil is much different than fantasizing running down kids. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2019 #77

I don't care anymore. A Democrat could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue marylandblue Mar 2019 #86

What's this about the phone cards? I guess I have missed this. Tipperary Mar 2019 #107

. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2019 #110

The poster is misrepresenting the article. It's in relation to the hacking story. TwilightZone Mar 2019 #129

+1 Always best to go to the original source. Sometimes DU'ers summaries can be inadequate emulatorloo Mar 2019 #186

Nowhere in that article did it say O'Rourke did that. TwilightZone Mar 2019 #127

It's in the Reuter's article linked Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2019 #142

Ever raise a bright, edgy kid? peggysue2 Mar 2019 #166

But you're not running for president. nuff said MoonRiver Mar 2019 #23

Lol Loki Liesmith Mar 2019 #91

Neither is a teenage Beto. John Fante Mar 2019 #148

Maybe Loki SHOULD run for President...could prolly beat a loser like tRump. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #152

But you're not running for President. MineralMan Mar 2019 #24

Did you also steal phone card numbers of unsuspecting victims? Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2019 #40

I recall reading about one of the Democratic candidates TexasTowelie Mar 2019 #58

Who? nt tblue37 Mar 2019 #128

It wasn't the candidate that I'm supporting. TexasTowelie Mar 2019 #137

I can't find such a reference. What search terms worked for you? nt tblue37 Mar 2019 #138

Very true. I had a BBS system up for several years MineralMan Mar 2019 #70

No. But did hack email servers of government agencies Loki Liesmith Mar 2019 #80

All those who are shocked better not look into fanfiction sites, lol! happybird Mar 2019 #68

Sounds like an overdose of StarTrek. democratisphere Mar 2019 #103

The opposition digs deep to find whatever it can. MineralMan Mar 2019 #20

The "opposition" is not necessarily GOP, either. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #65

That's especially true during the primary season. MineralMan Mar 2019 #73

Context may be important. David__77 Mar 2019 #21

Chances are you will see the whole essay, MineralMan Mar 2019 #28

Agreed Lulu KC Mar 2019 #71

What. The. Fuck. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2019 #25

Seriously!! First I've heard of this... surprised this didn't come out during his Texas Senate run. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #33

Very disturbing indeed...wanna hear a clearer explanation of what exactly was goin thru Beto's mind. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #29

So, does this mean Nabokov was a child rapist for writing Lolita? McCamy Taylor Mar 2019 #31

THIS x1000 Zoonart Mar 2019 #34

Nobody's accusing Beto of being a child murderer...that would be highly unfair. But, you hafta agree InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #39

I don't think he owes that to anyone. David__77 Mar 2019 #46

We disagree then, but, regardless of owing it to anyone, it would be smart POLITICALLY... InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #95

I don't know the context of this. David__77 Mar 2019 #98

nabokov considered burning the draft of lolita but decided he had created a true work of art. Kurt V. Mar 2019 #43

Lol but a teenager might think they are Nabokov Loki Liesmith Mar 2019 #81

How does one find out if they are a Nabokov Cuthbert Allgood Mar 2019 #183

excellent. truth is you don't, but this doesn't apply to nabokov himself. Kurt V. Mar 2019 #189

My thoughts too. Well written fiction... PeeJ52 Mar 2019 #45

Lolita works because it brings you into the mind of Humbert Politicub Mar 2019 #94

So, he was an actual teenager, right... not in his thirties? NurseJackie Mar 2019 #32

+1 MrsCoffee Mar 2019 #48

Yes, great point. Sn actual teenager. Not a grown man R B Garr Mar 2019 #160

He also probably called his teacher an asshole and smoked an unapproved substance dalton99a Mar 2019 #35

This Looks Like Grasping for Dirt - Teenage Boys Sometimes Think About and/or Say Weird Stuff dlk Mar 2019 #36

Not good then or now. patricia92243 Mar 2019 #37

Oh. This does not even need saying but I will say it. Kneecapping. McCamy Taylor Mar 2019 #41

Gen X has arrived Renew Deal Mar 2019 #42

If this can be successfully or adequately addressed, Tactical Peek Mar 2019 #44

Please, oh please, let Sanders' surrogates complain about Beto's early writings...nt SidDithers Mar 2019 #49

Indeed. Let's open that door. NurseJackie Mar 2019 #52

I'm more likely to excuse a teenager that wrote murder fantasies for an online group of hackers TexasTowelie Mar 2019 #50

No remorse. No apology. Just the typical "youthful indiscretion" type of dismissive excuses. NurseJackie Mar 2019 #54

Please do not go there, TexasTowelie. I think maybe the other party wants us to go there. McCamy Taylor Mar 2019 #56

I suspect ratf*cking from within. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #62

You are correct and I shouldn't stoop to that level. TexasTowelie Mar 2019 #74

I guess it's a good thing Stephen King didn't run for office, The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #53

+1 crazytown Mar 2019 #76

Or John Saul happybird Mar 2019 #78

Or any number of other writers of horror fiction and murder mysteries, The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #84

Exactly. happybird Mar 2019 #99

Wake up democrats! This is nothing. marylandblue Mar 2019 #55

I'm so much more concerned with policies and commitment and consistency and thoughtfulness . . . Nanjeanne Mar 2019 #59

All the Democratic Party's Iliyah Mar 2019 #63

LOL. CrispyQ Mar 2019 #64

But all fiction is autobiographical! dalton99a Mar 2019 #124

I feel old Lulu KC Mar 2019 #66

-Fasten your seatbelts, it's going to be a bumpy night- n/t Guilded Lilly Mar 2019 #69

He was a moody teenager. Whatever. Politicub Mar 2019 #83

Whatever. BlueStater Mar 2019 #85

People need to lighten up. Oneironaut Mar 2019 #89

If only Bernie could get a similar pass... that would be progress!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #97

It would be nice if people lightened up generally. David__77 Mar 2019 #100

Yes, VERY! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #146

I'd like to see the whole thing ... is it meant to be autobiographical, or fiction? mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #92

The character was driving a car and coming home from work. lapucelle Mar 2019 #131

Indeed it does not ... ergo ... promising? (nt) mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #150

He was a kid so BFD...not. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #176

It's Horror- in the style of American Psycho / Stephen King. crazytown Mar 2019 #93

It's the kind of writing customerserviceguy Mar 2019 #101

He also apologized for the way he spoke about his wife, which had bothered me. Tipperary Mar 2019 #104

What way did he speak about his wife? BooScout Mar 2019 #108

He joked about how she raises the kids with his "intermittent" help. He apologized last night. Tipperary Mar 2019 #109

We should run a robot- with no emotions, no sense of humor. The perfect candidate. redstateblues Mar 2019 #111

Must be 100% pure clean - to wrestle with the pig dalton99a Mar 2019 #114

No, then people would whine that our candidate doesn't have enough charisma. TwilightZone Mar 2019 #132

What are you talking about? lapucelle Mar 2019 #117

I read both stories on CNN. One was a podcast in which he participated last night. Tipperary Mar 2019 #118

Beto apologized? He didn't complain about being taken out of context lapucelle Mar 2019 #120

Sigh. Never you mind. Tipperary Mar 2019 #121

Indeed I do. lapucelle Mar 2019 #122

"whispering campaign" melman Mar 2019 #125

I had not had time to read the entire Vanity Fair article, the cover story. Read it today. Tipperary Mar 2019 #149

It's not like his was a grown man writing an essay. lapucelle Mar 2019 #106

. melman Mar 2019 #126

Considering the posters who seem to be taking the most offense to it... TwilightZone Mar 2019 #133

It's actually not melman Mar 2019 #136

Distinctions with differences are distinctions. lapucelle Mar 2019 #134

What does one thing even have to do with the other? melman Mar 2019 #135

Distictions with differences are distinctions. lapucelle Mar 2019 #139

And there's more than just one questionable essay emulatorloo Mar 2019 #188

He's not the only candidate in the field who wrote disturbing things. RandySF Mar 2019 #112

Pretty remarkable that Politico focused the story on a piece of bad fiction written by a 15 year old lapucelle Mar 2019 #119

This doesn't bother me. Everyone, even the pros, make mistakes with attempts at art. aikoaiko Mar 2019 #123

That's weird and creepy. I don't know if someone should be judged by what they wrote as a Vinca Mar 2019 #130

Bad. applegrove Mar 2019 #143

He might as well pack his bags and leave. JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2019 #144

I can think of 6.1 million reasons why you may be wrong. SKKY Mar 2019 #170

Dollars shouldn't matter, or Epstein would be a saint. JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2019 #171

Depends on what he was reading in school. ucrdem Mar 2019 #145

This message was self-deleted by its author RandySF Mar 2019 #147

I hope no one unearths my D&D character logs. BlueTsunami2018 Mar 2019 #153

Another one bites the dust - sadly, in this case. sandensea Mar 2019 #155

That's what writers do, and the guy was only 15. OneBro Mar 2019 #156

The problem is not what we think of this stuff but rather others. mobeau69 Mar 2019 #157

Umm.... LovingA2andMI Mar 2019 #158

This does not disturb me Devil Child Mar 2019 #161

Me! MelissaB Mar 2019 #164

If we are going to reference personal work history to bolster our position Devil Child Mar 2019 #175

Meh. Turin_C3PO Mar 2019 #165

Not sure it will play that big because of his age... WeekiWater Mar 2019 #167

allegory about gen-x alienation radius777 Mar 2019 #168

Beto was an edgy teen seeking to be shocking!? Adrahil Mar 2019 #173

Idc what he wrote as a teen. ComradeFunk Mar 2019 #174

Some of my high school D&D campaigns would be equally disturbing, Amimnoch Mar 2019 #177

lol ! stonecutter357 Mar 2019 #178

He was a teenager. I'm sure many of us wrote things as teenagers that would one day.... George II Mar 2019 #179

I give zero shits about this. Cuthbert Allgood Mar 2019 #185

So since this has been posted here I guess it would be acceptable to post an essay.... George II Mar 2019 #187

Dunno, have you never heard of a teen trying his/her hand at writing fiction? emulatorloo Mar 2019 #190