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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
118. Let's review:
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 03:38 PM
Sep 2019

You posted:

"More or less cranky than Klobuchar, would you say?"

I posted a link in response with a history of people discussing this aspect of Senator Sanders.

You replied:

"So about the same, then."

I asked you to support your statement that they were comparable - "About the same"

You took great umbrage for some reason - confusion?

I don't rightly understand what's transpiring here. I'm not defending Bernie Sanders. I don't support Bernie Sanders. I have never—not once—posted anything on these forums to that effect. I wouldn't support any candidate who has, to my knowledge, been credibly accused of abusing their staff. You posted a link showing Bernie is an asshole to people. And I agreed. I'm not sure why I'm getting raked over the coals for this.


Raked over the coals? That article is "Showing Bernie is an asshole," which apparently you are equating to Klobuchar in a sterling example of whataboutery...



Ane without apparent irony, wrapped up with this:

I look forward to your post dismissing the NYT as a conservative rag, questioning the loyalties Klobuchar's accusers and calling me an idiot for believing their vile lies. I am especially excited to see your calculus proving, conclusively, that hurling solid objects at people is "not nice", but not quite Bernie Sanders-level "grumpy".

:passive-aggressive emoji goes here:


That's a threefer: attacking a straw man, red herring and whataboutery.



I suggest that you look those up on your internets, so you don't get papercuts. I'm disappointed, but not surprised those wouldn't be included in your kindle publication, but then again, what can one really expect for $9.99?




If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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I Guess His Won't Be One Of The photos On The Wall Me. Aug 2019 #1
The thing about retail politics is that The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2019 #2
Yep. Truth. That's part of it. A BIG part of it. calimary Aug 2019 #25
If you're a private person or you don't enjoy frequent interactions with strangers LincolnRossiter Aug 2019 #26
Good advice! Cha Aug 2019 #72
well, yah handmade34 Aug 2019 #3
Sounds like 1/2 my New York friends.... ;)...................... nt mitch96 Aug 2019 #22
He hasn't lived in NYC since his mid-20s, more than 50 years ago. George II Aug 2019 #30
you can take the boy handmade34 Aug 2019 #44
I'm a NYC boy, too - I was born about 2 miles from where he was, about six years after him.... George II Aug 2019 #86
just teasing... handmade34 Aug 2019 #92
"NYC since his mid-20" mitch96 Aug 2019 #93
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"By my 20s it was pretty much gone" mitch96 Aug 2019 #95
My best friends are Massholes, Codeine Sep 2019 #103
Ever been to NYC? paleotn Aug 2019 #23
yes handmade34 Aug 2019 #45
Is he sure it wasn't Larry David doing Bernie? Jk😀 Freethinker65 Aug 2019 #4
... betsuni Aug 2019 #91
Bernie is that way to everybody. It's one of the reasons why comradebillyboy Aug 2019 #5
Yep, he is a grumpy old dude. redstatebluegirl Aug 2019 #18
... Cha Sep 2019 #142
I think that's just Bernie's normal demeanor customerserviceguy Aug 2019 #6
I think waitstaff everywhere are accustomed to rude customers mcar Aug 2019 #40
Exactly.. Cha Sep 2019 #101
La La land? In my home state of CA we out progress Bernie the grump every day. wasupaloopa Aug 2019 #59
:) Yes. Can't contest that. BUT, do they outdo him in Hortensis Aug 2019 #73
+1! Cha Sep 2019 #143
La-La Land? Where did that come from? Blue_true Aug 2019 #81
I'm from the Pacific Northwest originally customerserviceguy Aug 2019 #82
Ok, now I get it. You're right, I have heard California putdowns when in Portland or Seattle. nt Blue_true Aug 2019 #83
I have friends from the Pacific Northwest who don't hold those rude prejudices Clash City Rocker Sep 2019 #129
No we don't - FreeState Sep 2019 #140
If you mean rudeness, they're not accustomed to it in most places whathehell Sep 2019 #131
Warren wouldn't have done that. sheshe2 Aug 2019 #7
this article mentions Warren also JI7 Aug 2019 #8
Thanks, JI7! sheshe2 Aug 2019 #38
The article has a photograph of Warren in the kitchen of the restaurant she visited in SF.... George II Aug 2019 #9
Thanks for that fantastic photo! sheshe2 Aug 2019 #39
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... sheshe2 Aug 2019 #41
Once they went to lunch at a place just a block down from where my son was living at the time mcar Aug 2019 #42
:) I loved when either one ran into children. Hortensis Aug 2019 #74
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Sent the soup back. Sneederbunk Aug 2019 #10
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I agree. Princetonian Aug 2019 #87
I've heard that about him. (nt) ehrnst Aug 2019 #17
Lots of stories from Vermont. Hortensis Aug 2019 #55
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ACA happened because Pelosi knew how to move it through. ehrnst Aug 2019 #64
I am OK with the way Canada does it. Eliot Rosewater Aug 2019 #65
Do you know how Canada did it? ehrnst Aug 2019 #67
Yes, I have a friend there who lectures me all the time about it LOL Eliot Rosewater Aug 2019 #68
You make choices, because that's the reality. It costs a lot of money. ehrnst Aug 2019 #69
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Maybe he was having a bad day Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2019 #21
And, not the first time. Cha Aug 2019 #98
reading the numerous stories about BS ..... he has bad days every day. I don't think he is nice. trueblue2007 Sep 2019 #105
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'Get Off My Lawn!' tendencies empedocles Aug 2019 #27
Yeah, he strikes me as a grump. Turin_C3PO Aug 2019 #29
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Bernie behaved the same way when I saw him in 2016. madaboutharry Aug 2019 #32
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I've noticed this at the debates Bayard Aug 2019 #36
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That's right, she.. Cha Aug 2019 #50
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OMG this is a hit piece! jcgoldie Aug 2019 #53
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A petty and biased hit piece - plain and simple. Joe941 Aug 2019 #85
It's kinda "petty" to be Cha Aug 2019 #89
It gives us insight into the man. Is there anything about it that's untrue? NurseJackie Sep 2019 #124
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K&R Tarheel_Dem Aug 2019 #90
.. Cha Aug 2019 #96
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... betsuni Sep 2019 #109
"It was all very nice, except for cranky Bernie," Konstin told Politico. NurseJackie Sep 2019 #110
More or less cranky than Klobuchar, would you say? Act_of_Reparation Sep 2019 #111
Well... depends on how far back one goes ehrnst Sep 2019 #112
So about the same, then. Act_of_Reparation Sep 2019 #114
"About the same?" You have some sources for that kind of historical "grumpiness" on Klobuchar? ehrnst Sep 2019 #115
A confusing proposition. Act_of_Reparation Sep 2019 #117
Let's review: ehrnst Sep 2019 #118
Still confused. Act_of_Reparation Sep 2019 #123
Folding when you have nothing in your hand is a good choice. ehrnst Sep 2019 #128
That's a LOT different than snapping at an attendee at a political event. George II Sep 2019 #122
"[Throwing things at your staff] is a lot different that snapping at an attendee... Act_of_Reparation Sep 2019 #125
One is a public event the other was a staff meeting/gathering. One was snapping at... George II Sep 2019 #126
That's some "vague, off-the-cuff statement of a subjective feeling" there... ehrnst Sep 2019 #130
For some, and we know a group on the right and left like this, NOTHING their Eliot Rosewater Sep 2019 #121
I haven't seen Amy Klobuchar cranky in public at all, especially on the campaign trail. George II Sep 2019 #116
We all get cranky. Having to interact with people as much as any political aspirant ... marble falls Sep 2019 #119
I don't believe anyone is telling you not to vote for Sanders if he gets the nomination. ehrnst Sep 2019 #120
churchill wasn't always the nicest dude.. President Sauron Sep 2019 #127
Churchill? You are comparing him and what he dealt with and accomplished with this? Eliot Rosewater Sep 2019 #139
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Huge eye roll. Jirel Sep 2019 #135
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K&R betsuni Sep 2019 #144
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