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TomCADem

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8. Bernie Has Gone Scorched Earth on Democrats
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 12:13 AM
Sep 2019

Bernie has shown a willingness to go out of his way to tear down his opponents, and has no sense of loyalty to other Democrats while Bernie is largely spared from the onslaught of attack ads that a front runner would normally face. When Biden was asked about other Democratic candidates, Biden has said that his primary opponents could also beat Trump:

Joe Biden: 'I think almost anybody' in 2020 Democratic field could be the president
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2019/08/30/joe-biden-i-think-almost-anybody-could-beat-donald-trump-2020/2168099001/

In sharp contrast, Bernie has shown a willingness to go negative and make no holds barred attacks on his primary opponents and Democrats generally, which the GOP will happily utilize. For example, Bernie has already shown a willingness to attack Elizabeth Warren, who is more progressive than he is, as a corporate Democrat:

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/449346-sanders-knocks-warren-corporate-wing-of-democratic-party-is-anybody-but

Sanders knocks Warren: Corporate wing of Democratic Party is 'anybody but Bernie'

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) took a shot at Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) on Wednesday, a sign that the fight to be the Democratic Party’s progressive standard-bearer is heating up as Warren rises in the polls.

Sanders, referencing a Politico article about how centrist Democrats are flocking to Warren’s campaign in an effort to ensure he doesn’t win the nomination, tweeted that the “corporate wing” of the Democratic Party is intent on electing anyone but him.

“The cat is out of the bag,” Sanders tweeted. “The corporate wing of the Democratic Party is publicly ‘anybody but Bernie.’ They know our progressive agenda of Medicare for All, breaking up big banks, taking on drug companies and raising wages is the real threat to the billionaire class.”


Bernie's attacks on Warren and other Democrats as being corporate pawns are not a new thing. Bernie has done this before, and given Republican ammunition to use against Democrats in the General Election: https://gop.com/the-top-15-sanders-attacks-on-clinton/

This what concerns me about Bernie's candidacy more than any other. Bernie has repeatedly shown that he is willing to go scorched earth and make, repeat and amplify many of the right wing, Republican talking points that will be used against Democrats. For example, Republican have attacked the make believe racially tinged, boogie man of "open border" policies even though no Democrat is supporting open borders, not even AOC.

Of course, Trump repeatedly attacks Democrats as supporting open borders. Yet, rather than call out this fake talking point as racist, Bernie has repeated it and attacked "open borders" policies even though no one is supporting open borders, thus legitimizing a Republican talking point:

https://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-open-borders-poverty-world-immigration-1388767

BERNIE SANDERS SAYS U.S. CAN'T HAVE 'OPEN BORDERS' BECAUSE POOR PEOPLE WILL COME 'FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD'

Senator Bernie Sanders pushed back to clarify his position on immigration on Sunday after he was asked in Iowa about his reported support for open borders.

"I'm afraid you may be getting your information wrong," said Sanders, an independent from Vermont who is currently seeking the Democratic nomination to unseat President Donald Trump in 2020, The Washington Post reported. "I think what we need is comprehensive immigration reform," he said.

"Oh my god, there's a lot of poverty in this world, and you're going to have people from all over the world. And I don't think that's something that we can do at this point. Can't do it," the senator added.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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Excellent job, thanks! George II Sep 2019 #1
Sanders is absolutely correct on this, and he is not the only candidate with this position. thesquanderer Sep 2019 #41
why? qazplm135 Sep 2019 #52
Yes, we take away all sorts of right, but not without reason. thesquanderer Sep 2019 #58
the very fact that POC are in prison qazplm135 Sep 2019 #59
so who disagrees with florida letting out of jail felons vote then? nt msongs Sep 2019 #2
Probably very very few here. But that's different from what Bernie has supported -- pnwmom Sep 2019 #6
Bigger issue, nobody should be on death row. thesquanderer Sep 2019 #46
I think it's a losing position to say that cold-blooded murderers should have the right to vote. pnwmom Sep 2019 #63
It was despicable and racist as hell, but that Willie Horton ad worked. And we all know the current Tarheel_Dem Sep 2019 #3
So, if you are correct, why would the Trump/GOP stop at Sanders, when they can smear any Dem? JoeOtterbein Sep 2019 #4
Sanders is the only one who has said crazytown Sep 2019 #5
There are way more pot smokers in jain than bombers or butchers in jail tonight. JoeOtterbein Sep 2019 #7
but not on death row crazytown Sep 2019 #9
So for Bernie to refuse to "compromise his principles" would cause him to lose?... JoeOtterbein Sep 2019 #12
1. I think he is wrong. crazytown Sep 2019 #14
Repugs look at all prisoners as dangerous. Even pot smokers... JoeOtterbein Sep 2019 #19
I am sorry Senator Sanders has taken this stand crazytown Sep 2019 #20
We have 2500 on death row of 2 million incarcerated. thesquanderer Sep 2019 #64
It may never be wrong, but it is often unwise. TreasonousBastard Sep 2019 #31
There should not be any people on death row. thesquanderer Sep 2019 #48
What Harris said about it... thesquanderer Sep 2019 #47
There are is a legal issue, an political issue, and an emotional one. crazytown Sep 2019 #49
But it IS Harris' position. Also, I disagree that they have lost all rights other than due process. thesquanderer Sep 2019 #54
The rights to health care, food, bedding, shelter are granted to them by law crazytown Sep 2019 #57
Bernie Has Gone Scorched Earth on Democrats TomCADem Sep 2019 #8
I'm not sure what the relevance of that was to the post you were replying to, but... thesquanderer Sep 2019 #50
Bernie Will Be A Dream Opponent for Trump in Two Ways TomCADem Sep 2019 #55
AND he is for what MOST Americans want. That's a great combination. Small wonder there's a lot of Doitnow Sep 2019 #18
This is about whether Bernie can beat the Orange Hitler treestar Sep 2019 #56
I have no use for Sanders, but this argument is specious. NNadir Sep 2019 #10
Sorry but crazytown Sep 2019 #11
Does it matter? Sanders will not be the nominee. The only question is the fraction... NNadir Sep 2019 #13
Agreed. crazytown Sep 2019 #15
Warren is white, and she's 70 years old. Or have you decided to switch your preference to a much highplainsdem Sep 2019 #17
As it happens, I'm old and white and male. I certainly know my Demographic. NNadir Sep 2019 #22
Good post, nnadr! True Blue American Sep 2019 #32
I want to make clear that I'm NOT a fan of Bernie Sanders. But I believe he's stuck to the same highplainsdem Sep 2019 #40
At the risk of sounding trite, I feel that being in the "flower of one's youth" does not involve... NNadir Sep 2019 #44
I agree.. your argument is the opposite of Cha Sep 2019 #30
If BS is the nominee, we'd lose 43 states. nt BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #16
And the House as well as giving the Pukes a supermajority comradebillyboy Sep 2019 #38
Lose 43 states? You think 2016 Clinton voters would switch to Trump rather than vote Sanders? thesquanderer Sep 2019 #60
If Bernie Sanders is nominated milk will become poison and sheep with become carnivorous. Gore1FL Sep 2019 #21
Why are we repeating right wing talking points on DU. vsrazdem Sep 2019 #23
I presented Senator Sanders answer in full. crazytown Sep 2019 #24
Thank you for this, crazytown.. Cha Sep 2019 #25
I've said my piece crazytown Sep 2019 #26
Thank you for saying it.. It's an Cha Sep 2019 #27
Michael Dukakis endorses Elizabeth Warren. Eric J in MN Sep 2019 #28
"Bernie Sanders is no Michael Dukakis" No he is not. crazytown Sep 2019 #29
People think the "bashing" is bad now? NurseJackie Sep 2019 #33
Politico - Bernie's mystery Soviet tapes revealed (Imagine if This Was Biden) TomCADem Sep 2019 #51
It's obvious: Bernie hasn't been fully vetted. NurseJackie Sep 2019 #61
If nominated, Elizabeth Warren will hand the 2020 election to Donald Trump Autumn Sep 2019 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author bahrbearian Sep 2019 #35
This is not 1988. Joe941 Sep 2019 #36
Exactly... DrToast Sep 2019 #39
Bernie's past is so ripe with potential Willie Horton moments calguy Sep 2019 #37
No kidding. Cha Sep 2019 #65
WHOEVER IS THE CANDIDATE FOR US WILL BE SMEARED TO A NEW LOW Otto Lidenbrock Sep 2019 #42
Joe Biden still bests fellow Democrats on electability, polls show Gothmog Sep 2019 #43
Ummm...o..k.... DrFunkenstein Sep 2019 #45
Well, Do You Have A Substantive Rebuttal? DarthDem Sep 2019 #53
At this point. Snackshack Sep 2019 #62
Republicans can't try Willie Horton because people know these days these ads are racist JonLP24 Sep 2019 #66
It is as certain as the sun rising on the East horizon every morning nt NYMinute Sep 2019 #67
the way I see it... myohmy2 Sep 2019 #68
Timely kick crazytown Sep 2019 #69
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