Democratic Primaries

doompatrol39

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34. I'm not saying I have one...

Sun Mar 17, 2019, 10:44 AM

Mar 2019

...I don't have the answers. But the whole "History tells us we need to do this!" advice is pointless, and more often than not is being peddled by people with a vested interest in maintaining the status quo or being used to stop us from taking chances and imploring us to play it safe.

If we listened to the Very Wise peddlers of conventional wisdom we never would have nominated a Senator, from a northern state, who was an African American named Barack Obama. And that was over 10 years ago. As we've seen the past 2 years conventional wisdom is even LESS valid and accurate.

It's yet another shackle which Democrats seem to feel compelled to bind themselves, while Republicans do not (see also, caring about the deficit, or any number of other rules that only seem to apply to our side and mostly because we allow such a double standard) and it costs us more than it gains us.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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NYT ltte: Run a governor, not a Senator, for president in 2020 [View all] CTyankee Mar 2019 OP

I'm so glad we ran Gov. Obama lapfog_1 Mar 2019 #1

good point! CTyankee Mar 2019 #2

And Gov. Bush made a great president dalton99a Mar 2019 #4

He may have gotten elected due to his past governorship of Texas but he effed up royally CTyankee Mar 2019 #6

It's not an absolute, but since Carter, governors have done better than Senators. marylandblue Mar 2019 #5

Who knows? I'm sure the author of this piece would say the the Republicans would then stand a CTyankee Mar 2019 #8

sample size is too small lapfog_1 Mar 2019 #12

Good point, but nonetheless, there is a theme since Carter marylandblue Mar 2019 #15

Reagan pushed the "Federal Government Bad" meme lapfog_1 Mar 2019 #18

For their second term, incumbent advantage usually takes over, plus marylandblue Mar 2019 #20

The key phrase is "long time." Garrett78 Mar 2019 #21

(on paper) they ran a young dynamic governor for VP in 2008 crazycatlady Mar 2019 #36

LOL. Best governor Illinois ever had still_one Mar 2019 #10

Governor Lincoln would beg to differ! - n/t lapfog_1 Mar 2019 #13

This could go on for a while I think. So much for the NY Times editorial still_one Mar 2019 #23

lol.. I forget.. was Obama Gov of Illinois Cha Mar 2019 #28

We have a great governor running, Jay Inslee could take out Trump easy. Autumn Mar 2019 #3

I think it is worth it to take another look at Inslee, which I will do. CTyankee Mar 2019 #7

Plenty of room on the bandwagon. BlueWI Mar 2019 #11

While I'm disappointed that ONCE AGAIN we have to say to women "Sorry, not your turn yet... CTyankee Mar 2019 #24

Electing a female president is extremely important. BlueWI Mar 2019 #27

I think we have to be clear: just because I want to vote for a woman for president doesn't CTyankee Mar 2019 #30

All but a few agree with that. I am hoping Gov. Inslee Hortensis Mar 2019 #33

We need to stop with any kind of conventional wisdom... doompatrol39 Mar 2019 #9

I think we can look at history, but we have to look at the right history. marylandblue Mar 2019 #17

i, for one, could not fathom why Trump won. I went to bed on that election night thinking HRC CTyankee Mar 2019 #25

What's your plan, then? Squinch Mar 2019 #31

I'm not saying I have one... doompatrol39 Mar 2019 #34

So discard experience because things change and experience might not always give us the answer. Squinch Mar 2019 #35

What are you talking about? doompatrol39 Mar 2019 #39

Inslee, Hickenlooper, Bullock brooklynite Mar 2019 #14

Look at recent history Freddie Mar 2019 #16

Inslee's a great candidate. BlueStater Mar 2019 #19

Decline in governorship numbers really damaged our bench Awsi Dooger Mar 2019 #22

Maybe this LTTE will be discussed further in the NYT over the weekend and, hopefully, here CTyankee Mar 2019 #26

I like all of our incumbent senatorial candidates Rhiannon12866 Mar 2019 #29

Would love to see a political analysis about why this is true, but it is true. McCamy Taylor Mar 2019 #32

You could also run a Vice President and be done with it. nt UniteFightBack Mar 2019 #37

I'm suprised no one has mentioned President Dukakis. CrossingTheRubicon Mar 2019 #38

Excellent point! CTyankee Mar 2019 #40