Democratic Primaries

griffi94

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95. I stated straight up, that on its own, it's not a deal breaker.

Sat Sep 7, 2019, 03:05 PM

Sep 2019

So no, I'm not mad. I'm not mad at any of our candidates.
Biden is a centrist, corporate friendly Democrat. If he's the candidate, I'll vote for him.
I'm supporting Warren in the primary because I prefer a candidate that's more progressive than
Biden. Biden is down near the bottom of my list of preferred nominees.

You're argument about senators not thinking about the entire country and being specifically tasked with
supporting the state is pretty weak.
People in Delaware file for bankruptcy just like people in all the other states.
If what you meant was he voted for a bill that favored a particular industry that happens to bring a lot of money
into his state, then shouldn't senators from fossil fuel producing Red states get a pass for being pro-fracking or pro-coal?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Screaming about another gaffe by VP Biden does not shake his supporters up one iota [View all] Peacetrain Sep 2019 OP

I like Biden but he makes me nervous doc03 Sep 2019 #1

I feel the same way, I will be very disappointed if he gets the nom. Nice guy and all, but..... n/t monmouth4 Sep 2019 #2

No worries, Joe will not be the nominee... the writing's on the wall. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2019 #64

They can't win the EC IMO. nt doc03 Sep 2019 #105

But they can!! InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2019 #108

You really think people in PA, MI or Wisconsin will doc03 Sep 2019 #121

Abso-fuckin-lutely!! InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2019 #122

I certainly hope you are right. nt doc03 Sep 2019 #123

I trust President Obama's judgment Gothmog Sep 2019 #125

Not a bit worried.. he will either get the nod or he will not.. Peacetrain Sep 2019 #5

I will vote for whoever the Democratic mominee doc03 Sep 2019 #13

What? "others are too far left for me" DUar17 Sep 2019 #49

Lots of Democrats are more centrist. LakeArenal Sep 2019 #126

+1000 Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #68

When he is running against Orange Himmler gaffes won't be treestar Sep 2019 #84

How will he do against Romney? gldstwmn Sep 2019 #93

This Ferrets are Cool Sep 2019 #42

Very nervous... just a little too shakey, we can do better. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2019 #56

Well, crooked Don is no Bill Clinton Sugarcoated Sep 2019 #119

He makes mistakes but Trump just blatently doc03 Sep 2019 #3

Silencing Dissent Before The Iraq Invasion Wasn't a Gaffe DrFunkenstein Sep 2019 #4

Go forth and go on.. his reputation intact?? Peacetrain Sep 2019 #11

I think a lot of his support griffi94 Sep 2019 #18

It is past labor day.. name recognition is nothing now.. it is when Peacetrain Sep 2019 #20

Yep, Labor Day was last Monday. griffi94 Sep 2019 #25

Then you'll be safe if you run into "Serial Mom," maddiemom Sep 2019 #45

++Yep better not be wearing white again til next spring just in case lunasun Sep 2019 #51

Thanks...for the great catch! maddiemom Sep 2019 #109

EW & BS both have excellent name recognition Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #69

Bernie Sanders does griffi94 Sep 2019 #75

Exactly, people think they'll get 'Obama 2.0' and that's ridiculous. YOHABLO Sep 2019 #102

Agreed griffi94 Sep 2019 #107

Learned? He Learned That He Should Have Opposed Bush! DrFunkenstein Sep 2019 #23

Joe can try to rewrite history, but he's not gonna fool anybody. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2019 #65

*THIS* Funny how anti-Iraq War DU has shifted because of Hillary and Joe. SMC22307 Sep 2019 #72

Imagine What That $3 Trillion Could Have Paid For DrFunkenstein Sep 2019 #76

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2019 #91

Health care, climate change, gldstwmn Sep 2019 #96

Healthcare, infrastructure, green energy, education... SMC22307 Sep 2019 #97

You can never prove how Warren would have voted treestar Sep 2019 #104

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2019 #89

His support of a bankruptcy bill griffi94 Sep 2019 #17

Put up an op on your concerns... you will get feedback from all sides.. Peacetrain Sep 2019 #24

I'll happily vote for him griffi94 Sep 2019 #30

Great points!! Thx for posting Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #70

Ancient history...and people still get bankruptcies pretty easily...my sis got one last year... Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #27

The fall of Rome was ancient history griffi94 Sep 2019 #32

It is not a deal breaker...and people still get bankruptcies thanks to Sentors including Biden...who Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #117

Indeed they are still easy to get. I got one in 2014. I had to take Kahuna7 Sep 2019 #50

Same with sis. Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #116

That one REALLY burned me up!! InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2019 #66

Who are your Senators? treestar Sep 2019 #87

Aren't you mad at Elizabeth over the medical device industry then? treestar Sep 2019 #86

I stated straight up, that on its own, it's not a deal breaker. griffi94 Sep 2019 #95

No it's very strong. treestar Sep 2019 #103

Oil companies employ a lot of people griffi94 Sep 2019 #106

So her position on medical device corporations treestar Sep 2019 #110

Which part of "I prefer her more progressive policies" are you struggling with? griffi94 Sep 2019 #111

You're changing the subject treestar Sep 2019 #112

Go back and read it again griffi94 Sep 2019 #114

Oh please...the Senate had no desire for dissent...we were crushed in the next Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #22

I agree with what you say about Joe's "establishment politics"... it's outgrown its usefulness.. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2019 #58

I don't understand where your first one comes from but treestar Sep 2019 #85

Don't forget the NRA... gldstwmn Sep 2019 #94

Gaffe. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2019 #6

I went back and forth about the spelling and then settled on gaff.. well that one was wrong Peacetrain Sep 2019 #12

I'm fine with Biden griffi94 Sep 2019 #7

I have nothing but respect for Joe Biden. But he is not my choice. wasupaloopa Sep 2019 #8

You know if you have some good information Peacetrain Sep 2019 #16

I was a Hillary supporter in 2016. We were hunted here wasupaloopa Sep 2019 #26

I hear you...I remember it well...and you were not the only one who took a time out. Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #28

Oh my god I know what you are talking about.. I was O'Malley and he did not make it out of Iowa Peacetrain Sep 2019 #31

and the same old "corporate" "establishment" garbage treestar Sep 2019 #113

same old same old...and wanting candidates who will never win the electoral college...the map Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #118

But his emails!!! mn9driver Sep 2019 #9

yep.. I have thought about that more than once Peacetrain Sep 2019 #15

You can tell when people really don't care about something - they don't post about it. n/t PoliticAverse Sep 2019 #10

ha ha ha.. NT.. Peacetrain Sep 2019 #14

"Voters just don't care... they think that he's an honorable man..." Gothmog Sep 2019 #19

I was posting to someone earlier today, that VP Biden had been around so long Peacetrain Sep 2019 #34

We don't have 45 years of what Joe has been doing. If we did, we Kahuna7 Sep 2019 #21

Hand to God.. I was in my mid 30's, and I forgot the name of my first cousin Peacetrain Sep 2019 #33

Post removed Post removed Sep 2019 #29

Bernie doesn't make gaffes because he limits what he will say... Kahuna7 Sep 2019 #35

.. Cha Sep 2019 #37

Thanks for the good laugh... Bernie consistently speaks eloquently on ALL subjects. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2019 #61

yes. Psychologist have studied this for decades. jk. hehe Kurt V. Sep 2019 #36

Good post Pepsidog Sep 2019 #38

No one thinks it will. But it could affect people who don't yet have a favorite. nt pnwmom Sep 2019 #39

Yeah, yelling helped he eliminate one candidate liberal N proud Sep 2019 #60

This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Sep 2019 #40

Biden has been gaffe prone for years... cynatnite Sep 2019 #41

Biden's not my #1 choice, but I ignore all the guff about gaffes. philly_bob Sep 2019 #43

the fact that he hasn't nailed this down is why it's still a thing bigtree Sep 2019 #44

It's the same way they worked to tear down Hillary radical noodle Sep 2019 #46

The same goes for the feelings of Bernie supporters. JoeOtterbein Sep 2019 #47

Gaffes are disqualifying Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2019 #48

If not disqualifying, certainly concerning... imagine if Bernie was making several gaffes a day! InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2019 #62

I'm sure if Bernie started speaking gibberish the Washington post would be fine with it Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2019 #67

hahahaha!! yeah riiiight!! No doubt, everyone here would be fine with it too!! InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2019 #73

But he does!! Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #100

Then Dotard would not be President treestar Sep 2019 #88

Point to an incident of "screaming"... brooklynite Sep 2019 #52

Ha! Tipperary Sep 2019 #57

"Predators on the streets...without any conscience because they literally have not been socialized" DrFunkenstein Sep 2019 #53

So true... Joe's moderate incrementalism is not the way forward for the Democratic Party... InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2019 #63

But does it tire them out Peacetrain? crazytown Sep 2019 #54

Did something else happen? cwydro Sep 2019 #55

I like beden but he is concerning me. Joe941 Sep 2019 #59

No one is "screaming." SMC22307 Sep 2019 #71

Joe Biden still bests fellow Democrats on electability, polls show Gothmog Sep 2019 #74

In DECEMBER 2007, Clinton Bested Obama in Electability By 59% to 16% DrFunkenstein Sep 2019 #79

The attack on Biden's so called gaffes by the Right, Left and Media has only increased my support aeromanKC Sep 2019 #77

yep. maybe they should focus on the positives of their own candidates EveHammond13 Sep 2019 #78

Not on the Biden train awesomerwb1 Sep 2019 #80

This seems familiar - a politician with unwavering supporters no matter what. LonePirate Sep 2019 #81

+1000! nt USALiberal Sep 2019 #98

Hehe what's the latest? treestar Sep 2019 #82

Actually I think you're about 5 stories behind.... who can keep up??? Ridiculous isn't it??!! Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #99

Sometimes these thing take a while to build up. aikoaiko Sep 2019 #83

Post removed Post removed Sep 2019 #90

They should pay closer attention then. gldstwmn Sep 2019 #92

Amazing, this is all they have. Decades in politics, a high-profile and powerful emmaverybo Sep 2019 #101

Congratulations on using "iota" because it's hard to work that into everyday conversation. n/t elocs Sep 2019 #115

I'm not worried about his supporters. Act_of_Reparation Sep 2019 #120

Joe Biden's appeal actually isn't a mystery Gothmog Sep 2019 #124

Joe has a record that they pick apart and not look at the complete picture LakeArenal Sep 2019 #127

I agree with OP. Desert Dem Sep 2019 #128

These alleged gaffes are eye-rolling examples of the absurdity of the press or the woke left Gothmog Sep 2019 #129