Democratic Primaries

qazplm135

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52. why?

Sun Sep 8, 2019, 12:38 PM

Sep 2019

There are all sorts of rights we take away from prisoners.

They don't have the right to freedom of movement. Not the same rights to speech. Not the same rights to takings/own property.
No right to bear arms.

There are a plethora of rights that are restricted to prisoners.

Why is the right to vote (which technically isn't even in the Constitution...it should be, but it isn't) somehow sacrosanct vice the other rights lost while incarcerated?

I think the MOMENT you leave incarceration, including parole, you should regain your right to vote.

The issue with POC in prison is a different issue that definitely needs to be addressed on its own merits with other legislation like decriminalizing drugs, "unracifying" our CJ system, fixing our education system, etc etc.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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If nominated, Bernie Sanders will hand the 2020 election to Donald Trump [View all] crazytown Sep 2019 OP

Excellent job, thanks! George II Sep 2019 #1

Sanders is absolutely correct on this, and he is not the only candidate with this position. thesquanderer Sep 2019 #41

why? qazplm135 Sep 2019 #52

Yes, we take away all sorts of right, but not without reason. thesquanderer Sep 2019 #58

the very fact that POC are in prison qazplm135 Sep 2019 #59

so who disagrees with florida letting out of jail felons vote then? nt msongs Sep 2019 #2

Probably very very few here. But that's different from what Bernie has supported -- pnwmom Sep 2019 #6

Bigger issue, nobody should be on death row. thesquanderer Sep 2019 #46

I think it's a losing position to say that cold-blooded murderers should have the right to vote. pnwmom Sep 2019 #63

It was despicable and racist as hell, but that Willie Horton ad worked. And we all know the current Tarheel_Dem Sep 2019 #3

So, if you are correct, why would the Trump/GOP stop at Sanders, when they can smear any Dem? JoeOtterbein Sep 2019 #4

Sanders is the only one who has said crazytown Sep 2019 #5

There are way more pot smokers in jain than bombers or butchers in jail tonight. JoeOtterbein Sep 2019 #7

but not on death row crazytown Sep 2019 #9

So for Bernie to refuse to "compromise his principles" would cause him to lose?... JoeOtterbein Sep 2019 #12

1. I think he is wrong. crazytown Sep 2019 #14

Repugs look at all prisoners as dangerous. Even pot smokers... JoeOtterbein Sep 2019 #19

I am sorry Senator Sanders has taken this stand crazytown Sep 2019 #20

We have 2500 on death row of 2 million incarcerated. thesquanderer Sep 2019 #64

It may never be wrong, but it is often unwise. TreasonousBastard Sep 2019 #31

There should not be any people on death row. thesquanderer Sep 2019 #48

What Harris said about it... thesquanderer Sep 2019 #47

There are is a legal issue, an political issue, and an emotional one. crazytown Sep 2019 #49

But it IS Harris' position. Also, I disagree that they have lost all rights other than due process. thesquanderer Sep 2019 #54

The rights to health care, food, bedding, shelter are granted to them by law crazytown Sep 2019 #57

Bernie Has Gone Scorched Earth on Democrats TomCADem Sep 2019 #8

I'm not sure what the relevance of that was to the post you were replying to, but... thesquanderer Sep 2019 #50

Bernie Will Be A Dream Opponent for Trump in Two Ways TomCADem Sep 2019 #55

AND he is for what MOST Americans want. That's a great combination. Small wonder there's a lot of Doitnow Sep 2019 #18

This is about whether Bernie can beat the Orange Hitler treestar Sep 2019 #56

I have no use for Sanders, but this argument is specious. NNadir Sep 2019 #10

Sorry but crazytown Sep 2019 #11

Does it matter? Sanders will not be the nominee. The only question is the fraction... NNadir Sep 2019 #13

Agreed. crazytown Sep 2019 #15

Warren is white, and she's 70 years old. Or have you decided to switch your preference to a much highplainsdem Sep 2019 #17

As it happens, I'm old and white and male. I certainly know my Demographic. NNadir Sep 2019 #22

Good post, nnadr! True Blue American Sep 2019 #32

I want to make clear that I'm NOT a fan of Bernie Sanders. But I believe he's stuck to the same highplainsdem Sep 2019 #40

At the risk of sounding trite, I feel that being in the "flower of one's youth" does not involve... NNadir Sep 2019 #44

I agree.. your argument is the opposite of Cha Sep 2019 #30

If BS is the nominee, we'd lose 43 states. nt BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #16

And the House as well as giving the Pukes a supermajority comradebillyboy Sep 2019 #38

Lose 43 states? You think 2016 Clinton voters would switch to Trump rather than vote Sanders? thesquanderer Sep 2019 #60

If Bernie Sanders is nominated milk will become poison and sheep with become carnivorous. Gore1FL Sep 2019 #21

Why are we repeating right wing talking points on DU. vsrazdem Sep 2019 #23

I presented Senator Sanders answer in full. crazytown Sep 2019 #24

Thank you for this, crazytown.. Cha Sep 2019 #25

I've said my piece crazytown Sep 2019 #26

Thank you for saying it.. It's an Cha Sep 2019 #27

Michael Dukakis endorses Elizabeth Warren. Eric J in MN Sep 2019 #28

"Bernie Sanders is no Michael Dukakis" No he is not. crazytown Sep 2019 #29

People think the "bashing" is bad now? NurseJackie Sep 2019 #33

Politico - Bernie's mystery Soviet tapes revealed (Imagine if This Was Biden) TomCADem Sep 2019 #51

It's obvious: Bernie hasn't been fully vetted. NurseJackie Sep 2019 #61

If nominated, Elizabeth Warren will hand the 2020 election to Donald Trump Autumn Sep 2019 #34

This message was self-deleted by its author bahrbearian Sep 2019 #35

This is not 1988. Joe941 Sep 2019 #36

Exactly... DrToast Sep 2019 #39

Bernie's past is so ripe with potential Willie Horton moments calguy Sep 2019 #37

No kidding. Cha Sep 2019 #65

WHOEVER IS THE CANDIDATE FOR US WILL BE SMEARED TO A NEW LOW Otto Lidenbrock Sep 2019 #42

Joe Biden still bests fellow Democrats on electability, polls show Gothmog Sep 2019 #43

Ummm...o..k.... DrFunkenstein Sep 2019 #45

Well, Do You Have A Substantive Rebuttal? DarthDem Sep 2019 #53

At this point. Snackshack Sep 2019 #62

Republicans can't try Willie Horton because people know these days these ads are racist JonLP24 Sep 2019 #66

It is as certain as the sun rising on the East horizon every morning nt NYMinute Sep 2019 #67

the way I see it... myohmy2 Sep 2019 #68

Timely kick crazytown Sep 2019 #69