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Celerity

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5. as long as Bernie stays in the race, Biden is a near lock for the nomination
Mon Sep 9, 2019, 12:18 PM
Sep 2019

There is no Plan B in the centre-left/moderate lane, and enough Sanders supporters (NOT speaking of the DU ones) will never switch and vote for Warren in numbers large enough to make up the difference. Harris had a chance to perhaps make a play for the middle, but she instead went hard left (why, I do not know) and is now in a diminishing limbo of not being favoured by the left and has alienated the potential pulls from Biden's lanes with her ill-informed attacks on him.

The nomination is Biden's to lose as long as Bernie stays in. The only way I see Warren having a shot at it is IF Bernie dropped out and wholeheartedly endorsed Warren. That will not happen. Many of his supporters will not listen to him even if he did that. He is Biden's best asset for the nomination (along with the penumbra of the Obama years), which is why I find it so curious that many of his supporters just tear into Sanders non-stop. If Warren dropped out, there would still not be enough of her support who would slide over to Bernie for him to win either.

The only way I see Biden not winning the nomination who be a complete systemic collapse or some major health issue appearing out of nowhere. Both of those are extremely unlikely.

IF Bernie had truly cared about having a progressive POTUS, he should have never run this time and jumped on the Warren train from the start. I do not think him capable of such an act. He projects an aura of 'It is only ME who can save us'. That is not a message that the country needs right now. We already see the results of that type of behaviour as it is.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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That statement was indefensible BeyondGeography Sep 2019 #1
Agree. zentrum Sep 2019 #4
I hope he's not the nominee. TCJ70 Sep 2019 #2
I'm hearing the same thing from Democrats who really like and admire Biden. Autumn Sep 2019 #3
Yes, I am one of those Democrats. Tipperary Sep 2019 #8
as long as Bernie stays in the race, Biden is a near lock for the nomination Celerity Sep 2019 #5
Agreed 100% TCJ70 Sep 2019 #6
"Biden is a near lock for the nomination" crazytown Sep 2019 #7
I stand by my post, we shall see how it plays out. nt Celerity Sep 2019 #11
If memory serves me all of those states but 3 or 4 are reliably red states in just Autumn Sep 2019 #13
I thought the question was about the nomination crazytown Sep 2019 #14
One leads to the other, they are connected. I'm not surprised at all that Biden or any other Autumn Sep 2019 #15
VT, CA, MA, MN are solid blue, NH, CO, NV, VA have leaned blue in recent elections karynnj Sep 2019 #17
I didn't say solid red. I said if memory serves three or 4 on that map are reliably red. I may Autumn Sep 2019 #19
You said all BUT 4 ... so you are significantly off karynnj Sep 2019 #20
I said if memory serves all those states but 3 or 4 are reliably red in the GE. It was a few more. Autumn Sep 2019 #21
considerably more than that dsc Sep 2019 #23
they told obama same stuff before iowa questionseverything Sep 2019 #27
re: "There is no Plan B in the centre-left/moderate lane" thesquanderer Sep 2019 #9
who is that? Celerity Sep 2019 #10
The bottom of your post has a pic of Mayor Pete. Plan B equals Buttigieg! (n/t) thesquanderer Sep 2019 #12
I'd rather deal with a gaffe prone President Biden than another 4 years of Trump 5starlib Sep 2019 #24
I feel the same way Bradshaw3 Sep 2019 #28
This is concerning to me. Joe941 Sep 2019 #16
I'd pretend the same as you if my narrative demanded it of me. LanternWaste Sep 2019 #18
what?? nt USALiberal Sep 2019 #25
Expecting coherence Bradshaw3 Sep 2019 #29
Ok, but does Biden know he misspoke? aikoaiko Sep 2019 #22
lol o my questionseverything Sep 2019 #26
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