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"We should not be afraid of big ideas". Sen Warren. Let's talk about this. [View all] Ninga Sep 2019 OP

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Nothing wrong with big ideas. But they cost big money & no one wants to talk about THAT oldsoftie Sep 2019 #2

Sen Warren is savvy, knowing 2 minute response is subject to major criticism. Somewhere on this Ninga Sep 2019 #4

But when you dont answer a direct question, THAT makes people roll their eyes. oldsoftie Sep 2019 #7

Everyone has their reasons. The corporate media format wins. Nt. Ninga Sep 2019 #9

I noticed it too woundedkarma Sep 2019 #27

Thats one thing about Sanders, he's admitted that everyone must pay. Not just the "rich" oldsoftie Sep 2019 #47

I liked Bernie's answer - Status Quo/ACA will cost $50 trillion, M4A $30 trillion Fiendish Thingy Sep 2019 #19

Did Bernie just pull that number out of his ass? dansolo Sep 2019 #69

I thought the same thing when i heard him say that. oldsoftie Sep 2019 #77

If your cost for health insurance each year is $8-10,000, and your taxes for blm Sep 2019 #12

Even those numbers are low. My employer based plan is $12,000/year... TCJ70 Sep 2019 #28

Costs are always underestimated. Savings & revenue are always overestimated. oldsoftie Sep 2019 #49

Mine, alone, is $7200 a year. And I still have a hefty deductible and $95 copays. blm Sep 2019 #50

So, what currently covered medical care Bettie Sep 2019 #55

We're over $12,000 per year ArcticFox Sep 2019 #67

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They are human dragons Bettie Sep 2019 #56

Perfect descriptio,Cm:"if your answer to global warming is move to Mars, you have too much money." stuffmatters Sep 2019 #61

Soak the rich all you want, you STILL wont raise enough money. oldsoftie Sep 2019 #70

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"But it will increase taxes" ArcticFox Sep 2019 #66

Bernie Sanders admits that EVERYONE will have to pay more taxes. Why cant others admit it? oldsoftie Sep 2019 #71

From what I can tell ArcticFox Sep 2019 #75

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Medicare for All is political suicide. If Warren wins the nomination redstateblues Sep 2019 #3

I am not afraid. I think of the hero LBJ every time I go to the doctor. He risked his entire Ninga Sep 2019 #5

Medicare cate94 Sep 2019 #13

I disagree. mwooldri Sep 2019 #26

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And the loss will take Obamacare with it. gulliver Sep 2019 #46

Unless you work for druidity33 Sep 2019 #48

Apparently many here dont think there are really people who like their current plans. oldsoftie Sep 2019 #76

And most of those people vote republican Bradshaw3 Sep 2019 #78

Big ideas are great, if they don't cost us the General Election. Hoyt Sep 2019 #6

We don't know what we don't know. Do you not think Sen Warren is not fully prepared to Ninga Sep 2019 #8

Nope, the GOP is not telling me that, nor the media, etc. Who is telling you her "big ideas" will Hoyt Sep 2019 #11

History paves the way. My OP shows examples of political big ideas winning. Nt Ninga Sep 2019 #32

Agree. Have never understood why we shouldn't just Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2019 #14

"And I will work to that end" progressoid Sep 2019 #17

Disagree. Zero chance anyone's plan will become law exactly as they are describing today. Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2019 #21

Medicare was passed, then changed. I don't think Sen Warren is under any illusion or is not Ninga Sep 2019 #34

Sure. But do all the potential voters? They take whats Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2019 #40

Nobody. Instead they just ask how would you KPN Sep 2019 #18

I guess its where I diverge into pragmatism. People get scared by big plans - just a fact. Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2019 #24

I'm almost 69. Voted D every election up and KPN Sep 2019 #30

I hear ya. But couldn't one think of ACA as the first increment toward Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2019 #39

It has been and continues to be plundered and undermined by the GOP; out of pocket costs continue KPN Sep 2019 #42

GOP can dismantle fully realized goal just as Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2019 #44

The gop will dismantle M4A just the same as they did the ACA..no doubt Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #52

Only if we have 2/3 of House and Senate. But minus those with an upcoming election Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2019 #65

Right there with ya. The American voting public does not want a crash and burn. Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #51

Kennedy didn't run on Medicare, LBJ had no mandate for it, it was the sheer strength of his Ninga Sep 2019 #57

I'm not afraid of big ideas. Amimnoch Sep 2019 #10

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they will continue to dominate framing as long as democrats ignore their talk radio monopoly certainot Sep 2019 #15

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Republicans controlled the House during much of Clinton's presidency. betsuni Sep 2019 #16

That is why the next Dem president needs to be bold, even radical Fiendish Thingy Sep 2019 #22

I apologize. My reference was clumsy. Please see my clarification below per Wikipedia Ninga Sep 2019 #35

Big ideas are absolutely vital to effect necessary change. NRaleighLiberal Sep 2019 #20

No one is afraid of big ideas treestar Sep 2019 #23

I don't think anyone is debating that the Senate needs to be flipped... TCJ70 Sep 2019 #33

I do wish Warren would LeftTurn3623 Sep 2019 #25

Social Security has a tax on income to pay for it Progressive dog Sep 2019 #31

FDR absolutely wanted health care in his Social Security proposal. Ninga Sep 2019 #45

FDR did not try to put health care into social security Progressive dog Sep 2019 #58

Social Security passed April 19, 1935. Most absolutely FDR explored and wanted health care Ninga Sep 2019 #59

The truth is that FDR did not begin to explore health care Progressive dog Sep 2019 #81

Everyone knows single payer as no chance DIVINEprividence Sep 2019 #41

So said the anti Social Security and Medicare/Medicare voices. Take comfort in our Ninga Sep 2019 #43

I don think anyone is questioning the need for change. It's how do we get there with the Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #54

This!! Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #53

Let's all give up before we try then ArcticFox Sep 2019 #68

i get FDR tingles w/ warren. wall street should be afraid. pansypoo53219 Sep 2019 #60

Love that:"FDR tingles" And Warren'll be her own Frances Perkins too! stuffmatters Sep 2019 #62

Frances Perkins - yes - I was noticing she was absent from the discussion. bloom Sep 2019 #64

I agree. Same with the gun debate. All the pundits ecstatic Sep 2019 #63

If she loses she goes home. brooklynite Sep 2019 #73

Gov regulations is another one vlyons Sep 2019 #79

If Trump is reelected, those big ideas will be going nowhere. elocs Sep 2019 #80