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In reply to the discussion: What did you think of Beto O'Rourke's idea of confiscating AK-47s and AR-15s? [View all]dalton99a
(96,289 posts)3. Wounds From Military-Style Rifles? 'A Ghastly Thing to See'
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/04/health/parkland-shooting-victims-ar15.html
Wounds From Military-Style Rifles? A Ghastly Thing to See
Trauma surgeons tell what it is really like to try to repair such devastating injuries. Bones are exploded, soft tissue is absolutely destroyed, one said.
By Gina Kolata and C. J. Chivers
March 4, 2018

Left, an X-ray of a leg showing a bullet wound delivered by an assault rifle used in combat. Right, an X-ray of a leg that sustained a bullet wound from a low-energy bullet, inflicted by a weapon like a handgun in Philadelphia. (Dr. Jeremy W. Cannon)
Perhaps no one knows the devastating wounds inflicted by assault-style rifles better than the trauma surgeons who struggle to repair them. The doctors say they are haunted by their experiences confronting injuries so dire they struggle to find words to describe them.
At a high school in Parkland, Fla., 17 people were recently killed with just such a weapon a semiautomatic AR-15. It was legal there for Nikolas Cruz, 19, the suspect in the shooting, to buy a civilian version of the militarys standard rifle, while he would have had to be 21 to buy a less powerful and accurate handgun.
Many factors determine the severity of a wound, including a bullets mass, velocity and composition, and where it strikes. The AR-15, like the M4 and M16 rifles issued to American soldiers, shoots lightweight, high-speed bullets that can cause grievous bone and soft tissue wounds, in part by turning sideways, or yawing, when they hit a person. Surgeons say the weapons produce the same sort of horrific injuries seen on battlefields.
Civilian owners of military-style weapons can also buy soft-nosed or hollow-point ammunition, often used for hunting, that lacks a full metal jacket and can expand and fragment on impact. Such bullets, which can cause wider wound channels, are proscribed in most military use.
A radiologist at the hospital that treated victims of the Parkland attack wrote in The Atlantic about a surgeon there who opened a young victim in the operating room and found only shreds of the organ that had been hit.
What follows are the recollections of five trauma surgeons. Three of them served in the military, and they emphasized that their opinions are their own and do not represent those of the armed forces. One has treated civilian victims of such weapons in American cities. And a pediatric surgeon treated victims of a Texas church shooting last year.

An X-ray of a rifle bullet wound to an arm. (Dr. Jeremy W. Cannon)
Wounds From Military-Style Rifles? A Ghastly Thing to See
Trauma surgeons tell what it is really like to try to repair such devastating injuries. Bones are exploded, soft tissue is absolutely destroyed, one said.
By Gina Kolata and C. J. Chivers
March 4, 2018

Left, an X-ray of a leg showing a bullet wound delivered by an assault rifle used in combat. Right, an X-ray of a leg that sustained a bullet wound from a low-energy bullet, inflicted by a weapon like a handgun in Philadelphia. (Dr. Jeremy W. Cannon)
Perhaps no one knows the devastating wounds inflicted by assault-style rifles better than the trauma surgeons who struggle to repair them. The doctors say they are haunted by their experiences confronting injuries so dire they struggle to find words to describe them.
At a high school in Parkland, Fla., 17 people were recently killed with just such a weapon a semiautomatic AR-15. It was legal there for Nikolas Cruz, 19, the suspect in the shooting, to buy a civilian version of the militarys standard rifle, while he would have had to be 21 to buy a less powerful and accurate handgun.
Many factors determine the severity of a wound, including a bullets mass, velocity and composition, and where it strikes. The AR-15, like the M4 and M16 rifles issued to American soldiers, shoots lightweight, high-speed bullets that can cause grievous bone and soft tissue wounds, in part by turning sideways, or yawing, when they hit a person. Surgeons say the weapons produce the same sort of horrific injuries seen on battlefields.
Civilian owners of military-style weapons can also buy soft-nosed or hollow-point ammunition, often used for hunting, that lacks a full metal jacket and can expand and fragment on impact. Such bullets, which can cause wider wound channels, are proscribed in most military use.
A radiologist at the hospital that treated victims of the Parkland attack wrote in The Atlantic about a surgeon there who opened a young victim in the operating room and found only shreds of the organ that had been hit.
What follows are the recollections of five trauma surgeons. Three of them served in the military, and they emphasized that their opinions are their own and do not represent those of the armed forces. One has treated civilian victims of such weapons in American cities. And a pediatric surgeon treated victims of a Texas church shooting last year.

An X-ray of a rifle bullet wound to an arm. (Dr. Jeremy W. Cannon)
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What did you think of Beto O'Rourke's idea of confiscating AK-47s and AR-15s? [View all]
kentuck
Sep 2019
OP
You might give them an option to keep it in a secure locker at an approved shooting range.
Gidney N Cloyd
Sep 2019
#8
The citizens of most countries are not nuts about things that are dangerous as automatic weapons!
Big Blue Marble
Sep 2019
#13
In 1995, political scientist Robert Spitzer said that the modern American gun culture is founded on
Celerity
Sep 2019
#51
Something needs to be done. It's totally out of control. The gun fetish cult needs to be stopped,
RKP5637
Sep 2019
#10
Sometimes I think they want some type of dystopian society with people roaming killing
RKP5637
Sep 2019
#42
Me too, he was brave to say it and it had to be said. I think it will help him too. n/t
monmouth4
Sep 2019
#20
I'm for a ban. I'm definitely for a voluntary buyback. Undecided on mandatory buyback
DrToast
Sep 2019
#22
What do I think? A good start. Seriously, Beto has signed off on his political career in Texas, but
Hekate
Sep 2019
#24
A ban and a voluntary buyback would start a natural process for eliminating them.
gulliver
Sep 2019
#63
I think he meant a buy back. I want this! The Constitution only guarantees flint lock guns.
McCamy Taylor
Sep 2019
#67
Its a good first step, but let's be honest, most gun deaths aren't from Assault Rifles, but...
Humanist_Activist
Sep 2019
#70
Principles over politics! How refreshing! Makes the Whole Democratic Party look good.
McCamy Taylor
Sep 2019
#74
They all praised his compassion and courage but no, none of them committed political suicide.
McCamy Taylor
Sep 2019
#77
Again, what Beto did is important because it Made the Whole Democratic Party Look Good.
McCamy Taylor
Sep 2019
#78
It is, hands down, the most effective soundbite for galvanizing the opposition
LongtimeAZDem
Sep 2019
#81