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Big Blue Marble

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7. A ban on these weapons will not be enough.

Fri Sep 13, 2019, 01:17 PM

Sep 2019

Millions are out there:.

"As of 2012, there are an estimated 2.5–3.7 million rifles from just the AR-15 family of rifles in civilian use in the United States; the total number of assault weapons in the United States among all types is not known, and can not be known because of the different definitions in different jurisdictions."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon.

Voluntary buybacks will fail, as the most dangerous, paranoid owners will keep them.

Confiscation will only partly be effective and most likely lead to violence and a thriving
black market with criminals making fortunes. Think Prohibition.

We need to change our culture; that will take time and only be partly successful. We live
amidst a huge gun cult. It grew around us and now we are paying the price in deaths
and destruction with little recourse in the short term.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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What did you think of Beto O'Rourke's idea of confiscating AK-47s and AR-15s? [View all] kentuck Sep 2019 OP

It had to be said sooner or later. world wide wally Sep 2019 #1

Agreed. HerbChestnut Sep 2019 #2

Wounds From Military-Style Rifles? 'A Ghastly Thing to See' dalton99a Sep 2019 #3

I think our Congress bdamomma Sep 2019 #28

I think Congress should be shown EXACTLY what Haggis for Breakfast Sep 2019 #43

This is silly hack89 Sep 2019 #49

It's badly framed brooklynite Sep 2019 #4

Agree. But, it sounded good last night, especially focusing on the ammo Hoyt Sep 2019 #15

many pistols are semi-auto Celerity Sep 2019 #48

Maybe just call it buy back. greymattermom Sep 2019 #5

Leave the guns, Take the bullets... Moostache Sep 2019 #6

Unconstitutional hack89 Sep 2019 #50

And even though you can only drive one car at a time, greymattermom Sep 2019 #80

A ban on these weapons will not be enough. Big Blue Marble Sep 2019 #7

You might give them an option to keep it in a secure locker at an approved shooting range. Gidney N Cloyd Sep 2019 #8

right answer but will never happen qazplm135 Sep 2019 #9

The citizens of most countries are not nuts about things that are dangerous as automatic weapons! Big Blue Marble Sep 2019 #13

probably not qazplm135 Sep 2019 #14

I know you are not defending it. Big Blue Marble Sep 2019 #18

I think the difference is technology qazplm135 Sep 2019 #29

You make an excellent point. Big Blue Marble Sep 2019 #33

most def qazplm135 Sep 2019 #36

Yes I love movies. Big Blue Marble Sep 2019 #60

In 1995, political scientist Robert Spitzer said that the modern American gun culture is founded on Celerity Sep 2019 #51

I agree it was founded on these traditions. Big Blue Marble Sep 2019 #59

oh yes, absolutely nt Celerity Sep 2019 #62

Really only about 25% of population are nuts about gunz. Hoyt Sep 2019 #54

Something needs to be done. It's totally out of control. The gun fetish cult needs to be stopped, RKP5637 Sep 2019 #10

people resorting to violence bdamomma Sep 2019 #30

It's incredible! It's all become a total WTF! n/t RKP5637 Sep 2019 #38

Sometimes I think they want some type of dystopian society with people roaming killing RKP5637 Sep 2019 #42

That somehow J_William_Ryan Sep 2019 #85

It needs to be culture change. n/t RKP5637 Sep 2019 #86

Here is Beto's campaign explanation for how this would work essadaw Sep 2019 #11

The explanations are weak and muddled. They answer nothing. Straw Man Sep 2019 #68

My problem is with the people that flaunt these weapons in public... kentuck Sep 2019 #12

They are insecure assholes who like to bully people with their toys. dalton99a Sep 2019 #21

My father was in law enforcement for over 30 years Haggis for Breakfast Sep 2019 #44

It means customerserviceguy Sep 2019 #16

Loved it. We were much better off when the assault weapon ban was in effect. Vinca Sep 2019 #17

Loved it! broiles Sep 2019 #19

Me too, he was brave to say it and it had to be said. I think it will help him too. n/t monmouth4 Sep 2019 #20

I'm for a ban. I'm definitely for a voluntary buyback. Undecided on mandatory buyback DrToast Sep 2019 #22

I agree with him, but it's political suicide. LincolnRossiter Sep 2019 #23

What do I think? A good start. Seriously, Beto has signed off on his political career in Texas, but Hekate Sep 2019 #24

I agree. Beto is on a mission! 42bambi Sep 2019 #79

It's a bad idea. Or in Beto-speak, "It's fukt up!" aikoaiko Sep 2019 #25

I agree... VarryOn Sep 2019 #55

It's long overdue. The sooner we start it, the better. LonePirate Sep 2019 #26

+1 K&R onetexan Sep 2019 #27

I like it melman Sep 2019 #31

The vast majority of Americans see no need for the weapons of war. guillaumeb Sep 2019 #32

I am ready for the list of candidates to dwindle so folks like Beto GumboYaYa Sep 2019 #34

Beto shows leadership andym Sep 2019 #35

I think it is a foolish and damaging proposal which is destined to fail Devil Child Sep 2019 #37

I think the word "confiscate" is not a good word to use. Doreen Sep 2019 #39

That was the one line in the entire debate the doc03 Sep 2019 #40

A Texas Congressman Basically Tweeted a Death Threat DrFunkenstein Sep 2019 #41

He lost me forever. aikoaiko Sep 2019 #46

I love it. ElementaryPenguin Sep 2019 #45

Desperation hack89 Sep 2019 #47

It sounds great and has a certain appeal to human necessity defacto7 Sep 2019 #52

Excellent ... GeorgeGist Sep 2019 #53

No. It will be a hurdle to just get them banned from being sold. Chemisse Sep 2019 #56

Bold, direct and brave Politicub Sep 2019 #57

Think it was wonderful and stupid. Amimnoch Sep 2019 #58

You're voting based on your fears instead of your heart nt liskddksil Sep 2019 #65

Voting your heart is stupid. Codeine Sep 2019 #71

Neither fear nor heart. Logic, reason, and analyzing. Amimnoch Sep 2019 #72

Totally agree Bev54 Sep 2019 #61

A ban and a voluntary buyback would start a natural process for eliminating them. gulliver Sep 2019 #63

The BOR is our social contract. k2qb3 Sep 2019 #64

Even David Jolly (Republican) agrees that this is sound strategy liskddksil Sep 2019 #66

I think he meant a buy back. I want this! The Constitution only guarantees flint lock guns. McCamy Taylor Sep 2019 #67

Yes, he meant mandatory buyback dalton99a Sep 2019 #69

Nowhere does the Constitution refer to flintlocks. Straw Man Sep 2019 #75

Its a good first step, but let's be honest, most gun deaths aren't from Assault Rifles, but... Humanist_Activist Sep 2019 #70

I like it. (n/t) Iggo Sep 2019 #73

Principles over politics! How refreshing! Makes the Whole Democratic Party look good. McCamy Taylor Sep 2019 #74

Did any candidates agree with Beto? Polybius Sep 2019 #76

They all praised his compassion and courage but no, none of them committed political suicide. McCamy Taylor Sep 2019 #77

Again, what Beto did is important because it Made the Whole Democratic Party Look Good. McCamy Taylor Sep 2019 #78

It is, hands down, the most effective soundbite for galvanizing the opposition LongtimeAZDem Sep 2019 #81

Foolish selfish move by Beto creeksneakers2 Sep 2019 #82

I like it lunamagica Sep 2019 #83

Beto Deserves Credit for His Courage waterwatcher123 Sep 2019 #84

Don't use the word confiscate... use mandatory buy back. Joe941 Sep 2019 #87

Mandatory buy back equals confiscation Devil Child Sep 2019 #88

It's called marketing and branding. Which makes a difference. Joe941 Sep 2019 #89

How does someone, like the federal government, Seeking Serenity Sep 2019 #90