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emmaverybo

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35. While we are on that subject, how, in addition to the one proposal, pay for all the others she has
Fri Sep 13, 2019, 02:48 PM
Sep 2019

made?

She supports GND and proposes in addition: free 2 and 4 year college, universal childcare,
95 percent student debt cancellation, affordable housing, better housing for military families, 200 billion dollars for opioid crisis, 50 billion for black colleges, 200 more per month per person social security.

I see no proposals to protect current social security, Medicaid, Medicare—all under threat. I see no
proposals to fix broken, underfunded, or imperiled CURRENT social programs. We also need to make a sizable investment in infrastructure. And we need resources for 11 million immigrants we must put on a path to citizenship if we are to have sane and humane immigration reform. We also
must provide lawyers and judges to process asylum claims ASAP. We should be taking in a great many asylum seekers if we re-establish the criteria for being approved to enter the US.

We have a historically high deficit.

I can only think that we will be taxed much, much more if Warren makes good on these promises.
I am willing to pay more, but I don’t want M4All, believe debt relief can be given without going to the extent of 95 percent cancellation, think massive foreclosures need to be addressed, would prefer a reform of our welfare system, and more money to provide food stamps, than a token 200 per month in social security, want to see investment in two year colleges that are unable to accommodate demand and need to expand vocational offerings, and so much else fixing and protecting that bold, new ideas, giving to high income folksalong with low income are not speaking to.

These bold new ideas might juice things up in an election year. They sound good. But they do not
take into account what is not currently working in an array of social needs programs, other large and ongoing investments we must make, other types of crippling debt than student debt, or that as a country we are severely indebted. They are token and selective investments. Unfortunately, they are also potentially political killers.


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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She never struck me as the stiff-necked ideologue that Bernie is, so I can't see why she's digging LincolnRossiter Sep 2019 #1
Maybe she believes it is the right thing to do, even if it's not incredibly popular? LudwigPastorius Sep 2019 #3
Why is it "more right" than a system that ensures coverage for everyone while allowing those who LincolnRossiter Sep 2019 #8
Biden's plan does not ensure health insurance coverage for everyone. HerbChestnut Sep 2019 #10
His current plan could leave between 2-3% of Americans uninsured, which is LincolnRossiter Sep 2019 #17
Of course, Warren's plan could end up leaving MORE people without healthcare... brooklynite Sep 2019 #29
Good perspective, cilla4progress Sep 2019 #28
We can't lose to fucking Trump so don't run on unpopular policy...politics 101. Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #31
What Senator Warren, and anyone else proposing M4A is how will it be paid for. You cannot just say still_one Sep 2019 #2
Trying to compare current Medicare costs/coverage to M4A doesn't work. HerbChestnut Sep 2019 #6
Bernie has explicited said that middle class taxes will go up to pay for it. LincolnRossiter Sep 2019 #11
Right, and just to be clear... HerbChestnut Sep 2019 #13
Then Sanders/Warren need to say - "For a family of 4 making $X, your taxes will increase Y. Hoyt Sep 2019 #21
this is true and something I don't understand why she doesn't do qazplm135 Sep 2019 #36
Exactly. Thank-you for articulating it so well still_one Sep 2019 #43
I, too, give Sanders credit on that admission peggysue2 Sep 2019 #34
"RaIsInG TaXeS!1!1!!" DrToast Sep 2019 #14
First of all I agree it cannot be done during a debate, and I didn't mean to suggest that, but they still_one Sep 2019 #26
Sanders has admitted taxes will go up even on the middle class. Warren dodges questions about that. highplainsdem Sep 2019 #12
While we are on that subject, how, in addition to the one proposal, pay for all the others she has emmaverybo Sep 2019 #35
That's awesome. HerbChestnut Sep 2019 #4
I wish she'd leave herself a little wriggle room. Mike 03 Sep 2019 #5
M4A is the best health insurance plan out there. HerbChestnut Sep 2019 #7
Every single thing you wrote is probably true. Mike 03 Sep 2019 #16
I defintely see her on a debate stage pummeling Trump. Biden, no so sure about. vsrazdem Sep 2019 #23
It is doubtful anyone will be on a debate stage with him. Anyone who brings the case against Trump emmaverybo Sep 2019 #38
Wriggle room is important. This will be hard to sell in the general. TreasonousBastard Sep 2019 #9
I Think This Might Be Her Creating Wiggle Room DrFunkenstein Sep 2019 #15
Hope so. If she wins the nod, I'd hate to see her go down over health care. TreasonousBastard Sep 2019 #18
Insightful. Mike 03 Sep 2019 #20
But I thought she has an iron clad plan for everything? calguy Sep 2019 #19
She must not want to win madville Sep 2019 #22
Says who? I don't know of a single person that is happy with their current insurance plan, vsrazdem Sep 2019 #24
The USC LA Times poll from a few days ago madville Sep 2019 #25
doesn't help running pharma and insurance co. fear ads during the debate floppyboo Sep 2019 #33
That's Not a Measure of Who is Happy With Their Insurance DrFunkenstein Sep 2019 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2019 #27
This is another reason why I hope to God she is not the nominee...we will lose the general...trying Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #30
For a fantastic campaign, this is a monumental mistake. OnDoutside Sep 2019 #32
A monumental mistake for the GE perhaps crazytown Sep 2019 #41
Yes I agree she had to neutralise that alright but she will have to do OnDoutside Sep 2019 #45
FWIW, I see it as a huge vulnerability as well crazytown Sep 2019 #46
Oh yes, I forgot about that. OnDoutside Sep 2019 #47
Will she be releasing a realistic process of how it will become law elocs Sep 2019 #37
Does anyone ask Biden these same questions? TCJ70 Sep 2019 #40
What's plan B when MFA goes nowhere? elocs Sep 2019 #42
I wasn't trying to deflect, but I can see how it looks that way. Plan B? TCJ70 Sep 2019 #48
oh ... she doesn't have a plan for "that" BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #44
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