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qazplm135

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36. this is true and something I don't understand why she doesn't do

Fri Sep 13, 2019, 02:49 PM

Sep 2019

she's overall correct, the cost of health care will go down but taxes will go up less.

So, she simply needs to fill in the details...health care costs you X right now, by switching to MFA, health care will cost you X-Y which is what you will pay in taxes (or words to that effect). The difference will be made up by a tax on this top 2 percent or that wall street transaction...and overall you will pay less just doing it through taxes, but your healthcare will be better and you won't have to worry about losing it because you don't work or because you change jobs.

That's "sellable." For some reason though, it's not being sold with that level of detail.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Warren told CBS reporter last night she won't be releasing her own health care plan. MFA is it. [View all] highplainsdem Sep 2019 OP

She never struck me as the stiff-necked ideologue that Bernie is, so I can't see why she's digging LincolnRossiter Sep 2019 #1

Maybe she believes it is the right thing to do, even if it's not incredibly popular? LudwigPastorius Sep 2019 #3

Why is it "more right" than a system that ensures coverage for everyone while allowing those who LincolnRossiter Sep 2019 #8

Biden's plan does not ensure health insurance coverage for everyone. HerbChestnut Sep 2019 #10

His current plan could leave between 2-3% of Americans uninsured, which is LincolnRossiter Sep 2019 #17

Of course, Warren's plan could end up leaving MORE people without healthcare... brooklynite Sep 2019 #29

Good perspective, cilla4progress Sep 2019 #28

We can't lose to fucking Trump so don't run on unpopular policy...politics 101. Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #31

What Senator Warren, and anyone else proposing M4A is how will it be paid for. You cannot just say still_one Sep 2019 #2

Trying to compare current Medicare costs/coverage to M4A doesn't work. HerbChestnut Sep 2019 #6

Bernie has explicited said that middle class taxes will go up to pay for it. LincolnRossiter Sep 2019 #11

Right, and just to be clear... HerbChestnut Sep 2019 #13

Then Sanders/Warren need to say - "For a family of 4 making $X, your taxes will increase Y. Hoyt Sep 2019 #21

this is true and something I don't understand why she doesn't do qazplm135 Sep 2019 #36

Exactly. Thank-you for articulating it so well still_one Sep 2019 #43

I, too, give Sanders credit on that admission peggysue2 Sep 2019 #34

"RaIsInG TaXeS!1!1!!" DrToast Sep 2019 #14

First of all I agree it cannot be done during a debate, and I didn't mean to suggest that, but they still_one Sep 2019 #26

Sanders has admitted taxes will go up even on the middle class. Warren dodges questions about that. highplainsdem Sep 2019 #12

While we are on that subject, how, in addition to the one proposal, pay for all the others she has emmaverybo Sep 2019 #35

That's awesome. HerbChestnut Sep 2019 #4

I wish she'd leave herself a little wriggle room. Mike 03 Sep 2019 #5

M4A is the best health insurance plan out there. HerbChestnut Sep 2019 #7

Every single thing you wrote is probably true. Mike 03 Sep 2019 #16

I defintely see her on a debate stage pummeling Trump. Biden, no so sure about. vsrazdem Sep 2019 #23

It is doubtful anyone will be on a debate stage with him. Anyone who brings the case against Trump emmaverybo Sep 2019 #38

Wriggle room is important. This will be hard to sell in the general. TreasonousBastard Sep 2019 #9

I Think This Might Be Her Creating Wiggle Room DrFunkenstein Sep 2019 #15

Hope so. If she wins the nod, I'd hate to see her go down over health care. TreasonousBastard Sep 2019 #18

Insightful. Mike 03 Sep 2019 #20

But I thought she has an iron clad plan for everything? calguy Sep 2019 #19

She must not want to win madville Sep 2019 #22

Says who? I don't know of a single person that is happy with their current insurance plan, vsrazdem Sep 2019 #24

The USC LA Times poll from a few days ago madville Sep 2019 #25

doesn't help running pharma and insurance co. fear ads during the debate floppyboo Sep 2019 #33

That's Not a Measure of Who is Happy With Their Insurance DrFunkenstein Sep 2019 #39

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2019 #27

This is another reason why I hope to God she is not the nominee...we will lose the general...trying Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #30

For a fantastic campaign, this is a monumental mistake. OnDoutside Sep 2019 #32

A monumental mistake for the GE perhaps crazytown Sep 2019 #41

Yes I agree she had to neutralise that alright but she will have to do OnDoutside Sep 2019 #45

FWIW, I see it as a huge vulnerability as well crazytown Sep 2019 #46

Oh yes, I forgot about that. OnDoutside Sep 2019 #47

Will she be releasing a realistic process of how it will become law elocs Sep 2019 #37

Does anyone ask Biden these same questions? TCJ70 Sep 2019 #40

What's plan B when MFA goes nowhere? elocs Sep 2019 #42

I wasn't trying to deflect, but I can see how it looks that way. Plan B? TCJ70 Sep 2019 #48

oh ... she doesn't have a plan for "that" BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #44