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getagrip_already

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60. "Medicare for all" is not a thing... it's a dozen things..

Mon Mar 18, 2019, 09:52 AM

Mar 2019

MANDATED medicare for all is unpopular. An opt-in is popular. An opt-in for over 50 is even more popular. Government negotiated drug prices is very popular.

I hate those labels. "Medicare for all"... "The green new deal"... Even "Gun control/Gun Rights".

Those aren't things. They are labels. They mean too many things to too many different people to be of any use.

When you break down the positions on the actual policies, bernie is an extremist. That is generally unpopular. Just at right wing extremism is popular in a certain slice of the electorate, it's unpopular over all when you break it down into actual policy.

I'm not saying the positions are bad, they just don't have broad support. And if you are never elected, and sit in the senate and NEVER sponsor any of them as successful bills, what does a good policy even mean?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Breaking: Beto raises $6.1 million [View all] Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 OP

I try but can't seem to get excited over Beto katmondoo Mar 2019 #1

Me neither. Still waitin to see where he comes down on certain issues...seems to be all over the map InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #3

That's ok MyNameGoesHere Mar 2019 #10

Oh okay... nice dig. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #16

It is a dig and i suspect because it happens the other way around as well. lancelyons Mar 2019 #53

Young Joe Kennedy True Blue American Mar 2019 #98

Good to know. That RFK aura will connect with us seniors... Kahuna7 Mar 2019 #130

1,000,000,000,000%. nt Blue_true Mar 2019 #111

He beat Bernie's 24-hour haul BannonsLiver Mar 2019 #64

AnD oF CoUrSe ThE BeRnIe awesomerwb1 Mar 2019 #101

Yeah, seems to be a lot of saltiness today. BannonsLiver Mar 2019 #106

You're trolling someone Blue_true Mar 2019 #112

I KnOw MyNameGoesHere Mar 2019 #128

I need one of those. True Blue American Mar 2019 #150

You win DU for the day, no make that the week! George II Mar 2019 #161

YoU rOcK! NurseJackie Mar 2019 #165

LOL Gothmog Mar 2019 #166

Lol sheshe2 Mar 2019 #174

LoL! nt brer cat Mar 2019 #209

CNN is calling him the 6 Million Dollar Man! sheshe2 Mar 2019 #157

Good one sheshe! ucrdem Mar 2019 #255

This message was self-deleted by its author TexasTowelie Nov 2019 #305

Beto will have such a positive effect on political dialogue! ananda Mar 2019 #69

I think when a candidate has to work to find their footing on health care in different Autumn Mar 2019 #32

He's right not to be on a bandwagon that has already been R B Garr Mar 2019 #40

Medicare for All has not been rejected by the electorate. Autumn Mar 2019 #46

"Medicare for all" is not a thing... it's a dozen things.. getagrip_already Mar 2019 #60

This message was self-deleted by its author getagrip_already Mar 2019 #63

Lost in California in 2016. His groups lost in California in 2018. R B Garr Mar 2019 #131

It's been rejected is the reason so many Dems have running on it. Autumn Mar 2019 #136

They are not the electorate. And why not try to beat R B Garr Mar 2019 #138

I like the fact True Blue American Mar 2019 #99

I have been in a small group setting with Beto and he is amazing Gothmog Mar 2019 #167

Thank you True Blue American Mar 2019 #297

That's not "working to find a footing", that's being pragmatic open minded. George II Mar 2019 #180

THIS!!!! +1,000!!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #252

Your concern is hilarious, considering.. R B Garr Mar 2019 #34

When it comes to fundraising and support, he indeed IS "all over the map".... George II Mar 2019 #58

My favorite candidate so far is Harris but... Mars and Minerva Mar 2019 #70

Seems nobody learned anything from 2016, WTF............ Old Vet Mar 2019 #149

This message was self-deleted by its author Eliot Rosewater Mar 2019 #153

Is that what you read in my post? Mars and Minerva Mar 2019 #288

This message was self-deleted by its author Eliot Rosewater Mar 2019 #151

It is a totally different approach than we are Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 #8

I listened to what Beto True Blue American Mar 2019 #17

Yes, same thought crossed my mind n/t Lulu KC Mar 2019 #27

I didn't know Cruz had been fined ! Just goes to show you - I watch Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 #84

I read it on the net. True Blue American Mar 2019 #97

I posted a thread about it in the Texas Group this morning. TexasTowelie Mar 2019 #124

Thanks True Blue American Mar 2019 #137

I understand since it was posted in the wee hours of the morning. TexasTowelie Mar 2019 #146

I am here in the wee hours True Blue American Mar 2019 #148

You rock TT Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 #197

Saw that thanks........ Old Vet Mar 2019 #241

He reminds me of Skidmore Mar 2019 #45

I've noticed a trend of posts like this Renew Deal Mar 2019 #21

And Warren leaves me cold. Adrahil Mar 2019 #61

I have excitement to go around. Politicub Mar 2019 #294

First 24 hrs Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 #2

Wow.. Cool! Cha Mar 2019 #4

There goes the theory that he was hiding the numbers... helpisontheway Mar 2019 #5

I congratulate Beto, but in the interest of full transparency, I'd like to see the source InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #18

I'd like to see Bernie's taxes OBrien Mar 2019 #30

2014 is already out. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #44

Already? MrsCoffee Mar 2019 #76

I believe this is 2019 George II Mar 2019 #239

Isn't that just an old short form summar from several years ago? N/T lapucelle Mar 2019 #285

2014-LOL! What is Bernie hiding? redstateblues Mar 2019 #77

You mean the 1040? No, that's a summary, not a full release. ehrnst Mar 2019 #114

One report of Bernie's 2014 release ...(& tax returns filed AFTER the 2016 race will be released): InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #152

Link to full return? mcar Mar 2019 #158

Just tellin you what's been reported...if you're really that interested, I'm sure you'll find it. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #159

Again the facts do not support this claim Gothmog Mar 2019 #176

So not true... see my discussion below... those are the facts. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #196

The Washington Post, CNN and other fact checkers have proven this claim to be false Gothmog Mar 2019 #214

Nope, as Time Magazine reported, Bernie released the SEVEN pages of his 2014 tax return... InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #219

Then provide a link Gothmog Mar 2019 #257

Where is the link to this report? Gothmog Mar 2019 #220

What has "been reported"? N/T lapucelle Mar 2019 #286

tax return vsrazdem Mar 2019 #281

Those were not full tax returns Gothmog Mar 2019 #175

So, you're still arguing 2014 was only a "summary page"??.... InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #199

sanders only released two pages-that is not a full tax return Gothmog Mar 2019 #212

Wrong again... I know you've read the Time article, so why fight it? InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #251

There is no time article in the real world Gothmog Mar 2019 #256

You have provided no link to this Time report Gothmog Mar 2019 #221

See post #233 & #280 InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #262

Again, you have refused to provide a link to this report? Why? Gothmog Mar 2019 #223

See post #233 & #280 InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #261

Is that the tax return TexasTowelie Nov 2019 #306

You're wrong. Tarheel_Dem Mar 2019 #115

Nope, you're wrong... Bernie released more than "a summary page"... it was SEVEN pages in total. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #155

Post #152 doesn't contain a link? Tapper says it was a two page summary. Hmmmm. Who to believe? Tarheel_Dem Mar 2019 #169

The quote came from Time Magazine... are you saying that Time is lying? InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #186

Repeating it doesn't make it so. Tarheel_Dem Mar 2019 #192

No link has been provided for a reason Gothmog Mar 2019 #224

See post #233 & #280 InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #258

Provide a link showing the full return Gothmog Mar 2019 #215

See post #233 & #280 InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #259

This message was self-deleted by its author InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #260

tax return vsrazdem Mar 2019 #282

That claim earned four Pinocchios Gothmog Mar 2019 #172

Tell that to Time Magazine... or did Time sposedly lie too? InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #187

You are wrong-I trust the Washington Post here Gothmog Mar 2019 #218

People sometimes do things, like release ADDITIONAL information AFTER an initial news story... InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #227

Then provide a link to this article that you claim to exist Gothmog Mar 2019 #229

LOL, why didn't you just Google "Time Magazine" "Bernie" "2014 taxes"? I could say like you just did InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #233

So this article does not exist Gothmog Mar 2019 #235

Riiiiiight... it's only the FIRST article that comes up in Google. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #236

LOL if you have a link show it - I have provided links to my sources Gothmog Mar 2019 #242

See post #233 & #280 InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #263

The real world is a nice place Gothmog Mar 2019 #267

You could just copy and paste into Google the 5-word search I gave you to find it... InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #269

CiTE iT Or it NeVer haPPenEd. N/t OilemFirchen Mar 2019 #244

See post #233 & #280 InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #264

You can not link to an imaginary article that does not exist in the real world Gothmog Mar 2019 #268

See post #233 & #280 InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #270

There is still no link to this imaginary article Gothmog Mar 2019 #266

See post #233 & #280 InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #271

Not in the real world Gothmog Mar 2019 #275

He initially released only the Form 1040, basically the summary. After being blasted.... George II Mar 2019 #184

Ohhhhhh so Bernie DID exactly what he said he would do!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #190

No he didn't. He never said he'd release his 2014 return... George II Mar 2019 #193

All the discussion above is about whether Bernie released his 2014 tax returns... InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #207

Releasing a tax return from a year prior to the one he said he'd release is wanting too much? George II Mar 2019 #211

No, sanders lied-he has not released his full return Gothmog Mar 2019 #216

Why are you refusing to provide a link to this report you claim exists? Gothmog Mar 2019 #222

Try googling "Time Magazine" "Bernie" "2014 taxes"... voila!!! (1st article that comes up.) InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #237

I googled "Bernie" "2015 taxes", nothing. "Bernie" "2016 taxes", nothing. "Bernie" "2017 taxes".... George II Mar 2019 #240

The article does not exist in the real world Gothmog Mar 2019 #243

It's ok, I should have known better than to try having a serious conversation about Bernie... my bad InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #248

Okay, I was trying to have a serious conversation with you... my mistake. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #247

The point is that nobody cares about 2014 income tax returns, that was two years.... George II Mar 2019 #249

If no one cares about 2014 tax returns,why make up stories that Bernie only gave a summary of them? InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #250

No it isn't mcar Mar 2019 #144

Yes it is... see post #152 above. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #156

I trust the Washington Post, CNN and Politicfact Gothmog Mar 2019 #177

You do realize that you failed to provide any links or support in your post 152 Gothmog Mar 2019 #225

See post #233... the link is still there last I checked. You just don't want to look... InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #272

There is no link on that post or any of other posts Gothmog Mar 2019 #273

Yup, lead you right to it. Showed post #233 to my 94-year-old dad... he had no problem finding it InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #277

Again, no one is taking this claim seriously becuase there is no link Gothmog Mar 2019 #278

You have it, see post #233... also post #280 with Bernie's complete return as Time Magazine reported InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #290

Washington State is adopting a ballot access law Gothmog Mar 2019 #289

Tax return vsrazdem Mar 2019 #280

Bernie's full tax return has been easily accessible for a long time. But, hey, why admit the truth InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #291

Jake Tapper fact checked this claim and proved that it was false Gothmog Mar 2019 #171

Maybe Jake should update his fact checking if relying on old new...or else be fact checked himself. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #179

I trust Jake Tapper and CNN here Gothmog Mar 2019 #181

Think I'll go with Time Magazine's UPDATED report... but, hey, that's just me. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #230

For this thread Gothmog Mar 2019 #178

Maybe the report you're relying on is outdated...Time reported Bernie disclosed his 2014... InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #185

Your claims have been fact checked by numerous sources Gothmog Mar 2019 #217

I'm going to HeLp out here. MyNameGoesHere Mar 2019 #226

Oh okay... that clears up everything!! Thanks!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #228

I'm guessing that just about all of our candidates will release their tax returns... George II Mar 2019 #245

Yes, in 2016, AFTER the 2015 due and was filed. This is now 2019, still only 2014. FYI.... George II Mar 2019 #183

Ohhhh okay, so now it's "only 2014" and let's change the subject... InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #238

As well as Beto's taxes? progressoid Mar 2019 #295

Your concern is hilarious, considering... R B Garr Mar 2019 #36

Here is a dig...to some degree.. We didnt see the source for the Sanders numbers did we? lancelyons Mar 2019 #54

Lol qazplm135 Mar 2019 #55

Uh huh BannonsLiver Mar 2019 #67

There is an FEC report that Bernie made excuses for not filing TexasTowelie Mar 2019 #80

Have we EVER seen "the source and amounts" of Sanders' donations? George II Mar 2019 #168

The FEC filings will be released in a few weeks. lapucelle Mar 2019 #287

Good for him Meowmee Mar 2019 #6

They are my favorites too. Nt helpisontheway Mar 2019 #7

👍🏻Nt Meowmee Mar 2019 #12

Biden/ Beto? True Blue American Mar 2019 #11

Yep Meowmee Mar 2019 #13

Seems to be shaping up. True Blue American Mar 2019 #15

Yes Meowmee Mar 2019 #198

I'm down with that. I always say, I don't vote based on gender or race... Kahuna7 Mar 2019 #41

I voted the same True Blue American Mar 2019 #62

An all white male ticket is a bad idea. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #52

The weight of my vote goes to who I think can win. Got it? nt Kahuna7 Mar 2019 #90

All white male tickets have won 44 of 45 times (not including re-elections).... George II Mar 2019 #160

Certainly impressive... wishing Beto the best of luck. May the best Democratic candidate win! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #19

Whoever it is they have Meowmee Mar 2019 #200

Mine too... wild, wild horses couldn't drag me away!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #204

😹 nt Meowmee Mar 2019 #206

Can see why you like Joe...don't understand why he hasn't announced already given his popularity. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #47

Hearing all this talk about fundraising makes me Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 #66

If he doesn't announce an exploratory committee or collects donations TexasTowelie Mar 2019 #103

Interesting points. (nt) ehrnst Mar 2019 #117

I don't know Meowmee Mar 2019 #194

I hope so... Joe no doubt would do well, even though, politically, his views seem a bit outdated. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #203

Yes Meowmee Mar 2019 #208

No doubt he has a great chance to win...I do wonder though, the longer Joe waits to decide to run... InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #213

I was thinking the same thing Meowmee Mar 2019 #232

hahaha, yes!! that's funny too!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #234

That is why True Blue American Mar 2019 #9

No question Beto would wipe the floor with the pee-resident... InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #20

True! True Blue American Mar 2019 #22

You made me think...debates...bet trump just Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 #23

And the Sanders campaign. itsrobert Mar 2019 #33

It's the other way around... Bernie is The One they all fear... and for good reason. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #48

🤑🤑🤑 bearsfootball516 Mar 2019 #14

I hope he spends it on some advisors madville Mar 2019 #24

What's the hold up? InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #51

That's impressive. Nanjeanne Mar 2019 #25

That's GREAT!!! Stellar Mar 2019 #26

Still undecided about Beto but... AkFemDem Mar 2019 #28

Yeah, you put that so well! Cha Mar 2019 #29

So glad I was able to put him over the top 😉 Lefta Dissenter Mar 2019 #31

king maker. Kurt V. Mar 2019 #57

Did $250 myself. Amimnoch Mar 2019 #59

Damn! That's not nothing. SKKY Mar 2019 #35

I kind of like how he did this. WeekiWater Mar 2019 #37

Beto simply has superior instincts Awsi Dooger Mar 2019 #110

I have to admit True Blue American Mar 2019 #147

And when Beto expressed regret for going negative on Cruz TexasTowelie Mar 2019 #210

Congratulations! NurseJackie Mar 2019 #38

Hmmm. Well well well. Kahuna7 Mar 2019 #39

A new record. RandySF Mar 2019 #42

K&R stonecutter357 Mar 2019 #43

I realize the system is what it is today, Mr.Bill Mar 2019 #49

I'd like to hear who he got it from? Individual donors/big donors, what proportions? pdsimdars Mar 2019 #50

Here is the answer Gothmog Mar 2019 #68

+1 dalton99a Mar 2019 #87

Yes, would be interesting to see. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #274

Yeah Gothmog Mar 2019 #56

well, that negates the media narrative that he can't raise money or support nationally..... getagrip_already Mar 2019 #65

You Know What Ladies and Gentlemen, Dave in VA Mar 2019 #71

Has Beto figured out if he's in favor of Medicare for all yet? workinclasszero Mar 2019 #72

No, he hasn't! True Blue American Mar 2019 #74

A listening tour? Really? workinclasszero Mar 2019 #92

I want True Blue American Mar 2019 #100

Why not just lead on issues like Bernie does and convince people to follow you?! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #253

apparently qazplm135 Mar 2019 #78

True workinclasszero Mar 2019 #93

and what do you think it's going to show qazplm135 Mar 2019 #105

Who knows? He didn't release that info like every other campaign for some reason workinclasszero Mar 2019 #107

the only thing it might show qazplm135 Mar 2019 #108

It shows you who has the most grassroots support workinclasszero Mar 2019 #109

not really no qazplm135 Mar 2019 #113

He's in favor of seeing what would work best for everybody. M4A may not be the best solution. nt Kahuna7 Mar 2019 #96

Impressive. However, it would be more impressive if he disclosed where the money came from. borgesian Mar 2019 #73

Yeah funny that info wasn't released workinclasszero Mar 2019 #95

Large or small donors? Fiendish Thingy Mar 2019 #75

Well he says he doesn't take PAC or corporate money, so I would think it would be vsrazdem Mar 2019 #81

The fact there are 'truthers' who don't believe this number is embarrassing. ComradeFunk Mar 2019 #79

Amazing... give the man his due!!! Peacetrain Mar 2019 #82

It's worth noting Beto did not have a national campaign network already in place. herding cats Mar 2019 #83

Interesting. I know he got a lot of out-of-Texas contributions Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 #85

Apparently there were quite a few people watching him and holding out hope for a big P run. herding cats Mar 2019 #91

'Xactly! Also glad that he is eschewing the purity tests and labels.... Kahuna7 Mar 2019 #94

Mahalo for the additional Cha Mar 2019 #276

Oh, that's nice to see, Cha! herding cats Mar 2019 #283

Yes, that's ALL Cha Mar 2019 #284

This is the very reason True Blue American Mar 2019 #296

But it's fake news - let's see the cancelled checks and credit card receipts dalton99a Mar 2019 #86

Bazinga! George II Mar 2019 #195

Good for Beto. Looking forward to seeing what he brings to the national debate. aikoaiko Mar 2019 #88

I'm so glad and Proud that I contributed to his first 6 mil. I also bonniebgood Mar 2019 #89

Wow!! Very impressive Thekaspervote Mar 2019 #102

This is great Tiggeroshii Mar 2019 #104

Just saw on twitter that Beto gave the remaining 4.5 million from his senate campaign vsrazdem Mar 2019 #116

Interesting. TexasTowelie Mar 2019 #121

I don't have a problem with Our Revolution or the Texas Democrats giving their vsrazdem Mar 2019 #126

Bernie had about $9M in his Senate campaign fund prior to announcing his presidential campaign TexasTowelie Mar 2019 #142

Not sure about Bernie True Blue American Mar 2019 #139

I saw the FEC report that was filed after the election. TexasTowelie Mar 2019 #143

Good to know that, too. True Blue American Mar 2019 #145

Here is what the two candidates gave to their respective state parties: George II Mar 2019 #189

And now that it's been shown to be namahage Mar 2019 #298

It's not true.. Cha Mar 2019 #300

I'm still undecided but NastyRiffraff Mar 2019 #118

So I noticed he doesn't really say who those donors are.. Stellar Mar 2019 #119

That's because supposedly 4.5 mil came from Texas Democrats, the money he had vsrazdem Mar 2019 #120

I'd like to know how much Our Revolution gave to Bernie? TexasTowelie Mar 2019 #122

"Supposedly" OilemFirchen Mar 2019 #123

We will know for sure when he submits his reports. vsrazdem Mar 2019 #125

Hopefully he submits them, namahage Mar 2019 #132

Oh OK, so it wasn't a one day/24 donation. nt. Stellar Mar 2019 #129

This has already been debunked. ComradeFunk Mar 2019 #133

Well, that is good to know. vsrazdem Mar 2019 #134

Once again True Blue American Mar 2019 #141

+1. Such a blatant lie dalton99a Mar 2019 #162

Lotsa Hillary Haters and Bernie Beloveds on that thread. OilemFirchen Mar 2019 #231

Oy! Kahuna7 Mar 2019 #135

Google True Blue American Mar 2019 #140

No, the Texas Democratic Party did not give Beto O'Rourke $4.5M Cha Mar 2019 #301

The Texas party did not give Beto any money Gothmog Mar 2019 #302

OK, thanks. nt Stellar Mar 2019 #304

If he can mobilize millennials and beat Trump, count me in. Auggie Mar 2019 #127

He's charismatic, young, energetic, but I have to know more. Money raised isn't an issue for me. YOHABLO Mar 2019 #154

Impressive haul by O'Rourke! Devil Child Mar 2019 #163

In fundraising email, Sanders calls O'Rourke's first-day haul "bad news" Gothmog Mar 2019 #164

Quite a contrast from the reaction from Kamala Harris. NurseJackie Mar 2019 #188

That TPM article refers to "the general friendliness" among the contenders. Bernie's first public highplainsdem Mar 2019 #246

I like that he's very well groomed...great posture...he always looks sharp (whether formal or casual.) NurseJackie Mar 2019 #170

so do you think he would be a good mate for Biden? Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 #191

This message was self-deleted by its author NurseJackie Mar 2019 #201

It's difficult to tell what Biden is thinking. NurseJackie Mar 2019 #205

And it will be very exciting seeing this all play out. Everyone is good. It's Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 #265

I think a lot of people like the fact that Beto has more than one speech. I know... NurseJackie Mar 2019 #173

There is DEFINITELY a difference between someone who speaks from their heart Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 #202

MSNBC just did a story on O'Rourkes huge fundraising totals revmclaren Mar 2019 #182

That man is going places. ucrdem Mar 2019 #254

I have to say customerserviceguy Mar 2019 #279

$6.1 million day one fundraising haul came from 128,000 contributors and averaged $47 per donation. Gothmog Mar 2019 #292

Sanders supporter spreads false and baseless smear Gothmog Mar 2019 #293

BS supporter, Xavier Perez.. I did the research.. found him.. Cha Mar 2019 #299

What else has Beto accomplished? democratisphere Mar 2019 #303