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117. Now that admitting there is white privilege and that it's harder for black people

Sun Sep 15, 2019, 01:33 PM

Sep 2019

to function due to centuries of racist oppression is "blaming black parents for their shortcomings" you've stymied me. I guess it would be offensive and hurtful to admit that slavery, Jim Crow and discrimination have caused harmed to black people and is blaming black people for their disadvantages.

This is almost as good as how offensive it is to teach black history to a mixed-race class, because it will draw attention to the black children in the class and make them feel uncomfortable, while stiff unforgivable to teach it to race-separated classes to avoid that, and even worse to solve the problem by teaching black history to no one.

Creating these binds is not going to win over anyone and is not going to get Kamala out in front of Biden. Try something else!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Trump goes after Joy Reid this morning and DU promptly joins in with multiple threads trashing her [View all] EffieBlack Sep 2019 OP

Never thought I'd see the day I'd see DU members in lockstep with Donnie. rogue emissary Sep 2019 #1

No one at DU (excluding temporary "trolls" ) is in lockstep with Donnie. That is offensive. hlthe2b Sep 2019 #61

One man's troll is another man's supporter. rogue emissary Sep 2019 #124

You still haven't seen that day Bradical79 Sep 2019 #78

Our criticism of Joy Reid has nothing to do with the reasons why Trump went after her. highplainsdem Sep 2019 #2

Uh-Hunh. Just a coincidence that, after months of her "sniping," today was the day EffieBlack Sep 2019 #4

Today was the day she was pushig the idea that Biden should driop out. highplainsdem Sep 2019 #7

Really? Some here are claiming she's been doing it for weeks EffieBlack Sep 2019 #9

I haven't read all the replies in those threads, but I don't recall seeing any saying highplainsdem Sep 2019 #12

She didn't call for him to drop out today. That was her guest and she rebutted what he said. brush Sep 2019 #27

She allowed her guest to smear Biden at length, and she read from another Biden critic's column highplainsdem Sep 2019 #32

Post removed Post removed Sep 2019 #53

I'm not lying, and I posted the link to the interview in a thread defending Reid so people could highplainsdem Sep 2019 #62

That's a lie. Stop repeating it. Watch the show. It was her guest and she pushed back against it. brush Sep 2019 #28

highplainsdem has watched the show and this is Cha Sep 2019 #29

Cha, here's a direct link to the Facebook post where Joy asks her viewers about this: highplainsdem Sep 2019 #36

Mahalo! Right.. "not promoting".. Cha Sep 2019 #37

It called being complicit Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #81

I did not watch the show but did see True Blue American Sep 2019 #138

I did watch it. She gave her guest a lot of time to say Biden should drop out and condemn him as highplainsdem Sep 2019 #30

Did she herself say "Biden should drop out?" If not people are being cute with the facts. brush Sep 2019 #33

Again, it called being complicit Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #82

That's how I saw it. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2019 #131

Of course it doesn't have anything to do Cha Sep 2019 #10

You need to review the panel MSNBC had after the first debate Perseus Sep 2019 #18

There's nothing remotely like "fanaticism" in defending our strongest Democratic leaders from highplainsdem Sep 2019 #19

+1 From the outset, they have feared that Biden would run. He has. Now, their best hope is that emmaverybo Sep 2019 #21

This!! Biden is the only candidate that leaders of the free world begged to run. Dotard knows this Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #84

+1000 nt BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #71

+1000! JoeOtterbein Sep 2019 #63

Tired of the Joy Reid posts. I don't like it when we eat our own. secondwind Sep 2019 #3

i don't think one has anything to do with the other. but i do think Biden JI7 Sep 2019 #5

True EffieBlack Sep 2019 #6

Absolutly right. Biden's supporters would do well to emulate comradebillyboy Sep 2019 #31

If you look at the comments from Biden supporters In this thread alone, I don't see them being Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #85

Indeed Joe's supporters are relativly polite and civil, however comradebillyboy Sep 2019 #88

I agree completely. I for one will defend, but will not go low. It doesn't help Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #92

In one breath you imply those critisizing Joy Reid are doing it for the same reason trump did still_one Sep 2019 #8

Ikr? She can't write an OP Cha Sep 2019 #134

I agree, and am disappointed in the OP for making that association with trump still_one Sep 2019 #135

I would say the one's doing Trump's bidding are the ones pushing for Biden to quit the race. n/t PoliticAverse Sep 2019 #11

+1,000,000 highplainsdem Sep 2019 #16

+a million and more. emmaverybo Sep 2019 #22

Exactly nt BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #72

Here here!! Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #86

I cannot stand Joy Reid. She lied about her bias Tipperary Sep 2019 #13

I saw her one night to say treestar Sep 2019 #49

post the words, or it's just a nonfactual smear. bigtree Sep 2019 #68

lol it's on film treestar Sep 2019 #103

She knew what her guest would say. She's done similar with different issues b4 and fained an Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #87

Not so. NanceGreggs Sep 2019 #14

Except Reid never called for Biden to get out of the race bigtree Sep 2019 #20

Didn't see the show. NanceGreggs Sep 2019 #23

. bigtree Sep 2019 #24

Well, I guess I know that now. n/t NanceGreggs Sep 2019 #25

Try FB and twitter.. it's all over those two platforms Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #89

it's funny about those 'platforms' bigtree Sep 2019 #93

what you see on those platforms depends on who you're following bigtree Sep 2019 #96

She does hate him, though treestar Sep 2019 #50

you obviously don't watch the show bigtree Sep 2019 #66

I quit after the night she and her guests treestar Sep 2019 #104

The two are totally unrelated. Are you hinting that loyal Democrats are lining up behind trump? George II Sep 2019 #15

This is a perfect example of false equivalency still_one Sep 2019 #17

Total nonsense and lazy logic is what it is. nt Kahuna7 Sep 2019 #98

Yes, and that is what I meant by false equivalency still_one Sep 2019 #99

... BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #73

Her opinions, whatever they are, are just that, and she's entitled to them. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2019 #26

That's exactly right. And posters should get their facts straight and not say she called for Biden.. brush Sep 2019 #35

Not everyone sees it that way.. Cha Sep 2019 #40

Here's the other side to it. She didn't say "Biden should step down." Accuracy counts. brush Sep 2019 #41

I know that.. but she's promoting it.. Cha Sep 2019 #42

Well said. still_one Sep 2019 #44

"Calls for Joe to drop out of the 2020 race grow". Like who the oasis Sep 2019 #43

Those calling for Biden to drop out are for other Cha Sep 2019 #45

She's complicit. If this involved laws or courts they would be on it like a dog with a bone! Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #90

She should make her opinions public then BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #75

like all news hosts do? bigtree Sep 2019 #83

Agree. but that would be too easy!! She has her marching orders and she goes by them Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #91

no other news host is held to that standard bigtree Sep 2019 #94

wow I missed the whole backlash against Joy it seems jcgoldie Sep 2019 #34

she's an entertainer. she is there to sell advertising. the wind changes direction every day nt msongs Sep 2019 #38

I think I've seen this movie before. democrank Sep 2019 #39

Finally someone who lives in the reality-based world. Well reasoned and best post of the day on... brush Sep 2019 #46

.... LovingA2andMI Sep 2019 #123

I thought what Giridharadas said was kind of weird and what Biden said was kind of weird. betsuni Sep 2019 #47

If you are a pundit, that's just part of life nowadays treestar Sep 2019 #48

Joy Reid is pushing her own losing agenda at the expense of the Democratic democratisphere Sep 2019 #51

Lol. Even Trump let this go hours ago EffieBlack Sep 2019 #52

When Joy Reid and her contributors spend her entire show democratisphere Sep 2019 #57

Yes, when they do that, you might have a point. But they haven't, so you don't EffieBlack Sep 2019 #59

Alternative facts won't change what I am seeing with Joy Reid and her contributors. democratisphere Sep 2019 #125

Try putting on a pair of 'reality glasses'. alittlelark Sep 2019 #127

Perhaps I am watching an absurd "Reality TV" show. democratisphere Sep 2019 #130

You are ... I mistook u for another poster. Sorry alittlelark Sep 2019 #132

OK. Forgiven! democratisphere Sep 2019 #133

Aimed, pulled the bow.... and shot at the wrong poster. alittlelark Sep 2019 #126

I think you had better check your profiles. democratisphere Sep 2019 #128

i stopped at Joy Reid .. stonecutter357 Sep 2019 #54

Well, you may have stopped READING at Joy Reid EffieBlack Sep 2019 #55

Joy Reid is a homophobic bigot how is that for a bump ? stonecutter357 Sep 2019 #56

Bump away EffieBlack Sep 2019 #58

Effie, if Reid was white, DU would be responding the same way Hortensis Sep 2019 #60

that innuendo about her is bull bigtree Sep 2019 #64

There ya go personally insulting someone Cha Sep 2019 #129

Certainly A Lot Of Umbrage Going On Me. Sep 2019 #137

"Dirt-dumb and dishonest". Sweet. George II Sep 2019 #136

Is that a conclusion supported by objective data, or simply another allegation by a fan? LanternWaste Sep 2019 #139

at least I'm a regular watcher, unlike several critics going on and on about the content of her show bigtree Sep 2019 #142

You are right... the answer is yes. I stopped watching Chris Hayes for the same reason. Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #97

I keep telling myself to never be surprised mcar Sep 2019 #65

This OP should read: Trump goes after Joy Reid, then Joy promptly goes after Biden and it backfires Skya Rhen Sep 2019 #67

True that. nt oasis Sep 2019 #79

No. I knew nothing about Trump, just saw this OP and knew Hortensis Sep 2019 #116

I don't understand they need to kacekwl Sep 2019 #69

Oh another Joy Reid support thread .. meh BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #70

Joy Reid's despicable homophobic remarks were rather scum-like, to be honest... Skya Rhen Sep 2019 #74

And she danced around the truth on those as well. nt BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #76

Don't be stupid Bradical79 Sep 2019 #77

+1 demmiblue Sep 2019 #80

Watch a few more of her shows treestar Sep 2019 #112

Nonsense. I stopped watching her show because of her repeated attacks on Biden...sick of it. Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #95

You hate to see this TSIAS Sep 2019 #100

For the record, I started a thread without knowing what trump tweeted... Kahuna7 Sep 2019 #101

but yet, here we are bigtree Sep 2019 #106

AMJOY's first guest on yesterday was a sanders supporter who attacked Biden Gothmog Sep 2019 #102

she just had Biden surrogate on, Ed Rendell, attacking Elizabeth Warren bigtree Sep 2019 #105

mad that he gave such a good speech treestar Sep 2019 #107

no one is 'mad' he gave a speech bigtree Sep 2019 #108

Whatever, most people are not going to get into the "controversy" treestar Sep 2019 #110

well, when you broaden it to include things not said, you can surmise almost anything bigtree Sep 2019 #114

Now that admitting there is white privilege and that it's harder for black people treestar Sep 2019 #117

that's some spin bigtree Sep 2019 #119

You're doing the spinning treestar Sep 2019 #120

you're way too impressed bigtree Sep 2019 #121

Too much spinning treestar Sep 2019 #122

Cross and the Jason guy want fundamental change Gothmog Sep 2019 #109

That's overconfidence treestar Sep 2019 #111

I'm against notions that we need to abandon the push for fundamental changes to defeat Trump. bigtree Sep 2019 #113

I do not want four more years of trump Gothmog Sep 2019 #115

I get it bigtree Sep 2019 #118

I remember John Lewis getting trashed four year ago. Patterns and themes, indeed. LanternWaste Sep 2019 #140

White people are salty about Joy. nt LexVegas Sep 2019 #141