Democratic Primaries

Thekaspervote

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55. All I'm saying is you have to start somewhere and do what you can!

Reply to 5starlib (Reply #44)

Sun Sep 15, 2019, 01:54 PM

Sep 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Why single payer died in Vermont [View all] George II Sep 2019 OP

Was doomed to fail. drray23 Sep 2019 #1

correct qazplm135 Sep 2019 #3

But California IS trying and they're running into many problems too DrToast Sep 2019 #4

Vermont already had high taxes, on income, retirement, sales...one factor was that Vermont emmaverybo Sep 2019 #28

That is why it is so important to know exactly how much it will cost, and where the money will still_one Sep 2019 #2

Even the smaller countries in Europe can do this in one form or another of universal coverage. CTyankee Sep 2019 #5

Nearly all of them have VAT of 15-20% MichMan Sep 2019 #29

I am not an economist. However, it seems to me that you would have to look at the bigger CTyankee Sep 2019 #32

Even though all of those countries have liberal histories, Blue_true Sep 2019 #38

Haven't read up on their relative right wing policies but I haven't hear anything about their CTyankee Sep 2019 #39

It's not a question if they want to change their system to ours... MichMan Sep 2019 #45

Before we get to that, let's not skip over another option: Warren's tax reform plan whereby CTyankee Sep 2019 #48

Yes. Almost all the transfer of wealth has been from the higher-taxed Hortensis Sep 2019 #57

I like Senator Warren's plan. Blue_true Sep 2019 #58

Europeans like government, Americans don't...that's the big difference 5starlib Sep 2019 #40

Was it Denmark that got the highest grade on the "happiness" metric for their country? CTyankee Sep 2019 #42

It's the culture here that is different. 5starlib Sep 2019 #43

I mentioned earlier about this "not trusting the government" thing with what I like to say: CTyankee Sep 2019 #46

Would I not have to pay for my insurance premiums and deductibles? Cuthbert Allgood Sep 2019 #41

It seems to me that the answer to your first question is yes. Why? CTyankee Sep 2019 #49

AHA! Me. Sep 2019 #6

The problem with a State-based system, is that you can always cross the border brooklynite Sep 2019 #7

I agree with others that seeing the numbers is vitally important Docreed2003 Sep 2019 #8

Yes, the devil is in the details peggysue2 Sep 2019 #13

I remember hearing some of your hypotheticals during the Obamacare debate. CTyankee Sep 2019 #50

I think the difference in Obamacare is that it didn't fundamentally change the system Docreed2003 Sep 2019 #53

Shouldn't the FIRST question be: why are we out of step with every other country in the world CTyankee Sep 2019 #54

Buzz phrases don't necessarily make good policy. Nt BootinUp Sep 2019 #9

Green Mountain Care didn't fail for the lack of trying peggysue2 Sep 2019 #10

You point out a very important aspect of this issue. People sometimes mix "health care coverage"... George II Sep 2019 #14

I guess people LOVE paying $400 for insulin wellst0nev0ter Sep 2019 #19

My husband's diabetic peggysue2 Sep 2019 #30

Funny, public option alone won't bring down drug prices either wellst0nev0ter Sep 2019 #36

Excellent points. A great deal of political capital was spent on getting Obamacare done. I am in emmaverybo Sep 2019 #31

It seems to me, emmaverybo that . . . peggysue2 Sep 2019 #33

It also failed in California and Colorado, primarily because legislators didn't have the guts Hoyt Sep 2019 #11

That's the nuts and bolts, Hoyt peggysue2 Sep 2019 #15

I also suspect that voters think they're bullet proof and won't incur those health care items that CTyankee Sep 2019 #20

Agree completely. Always hate posting that opinion, knowing the "big idea" folks will bash me. :) Hoyt Sep 2019 #24

Quote from Mozloom.................National Federation of Independent Businesses turbinetree Sep 2019 #12

K&R for visibility lunamagica Sep 2019 #16

Adopting single payer in the US will be a major effort Gothmog Sep 2019 #17

There's another elephant in the room that no one wants to talk about. A good percentage of Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #18

It may come to prohibiting certain unhealthy things or... VarryOn Sep 2019 #21

Yes, those things all work!! Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #35

So what about the food deserts in urban areas? 5starlib Sep 2019 #44

All I'm saying is you have to start somewhere and do what you can! Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #55

There just isn't enough money NYMinute Sep 2019 #22

Where do you get your numbers? subterranean Sep 2019 #37

Most people like their insurance coverage Progressive dog Sep 2019 #23

K&R nt BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #25

Yup. greatauntoftriplets Sep 2019 #26

Sanders did nothing to help with this either JI7 Sep 2019 #27

They couldn't get access to the existing federal monies. zipplewrath Sep 2019 #34

I don't care... myohmy2 Sep 2019 #47

apples and oranges. Kurt V. Sep 2019 #51

Single payer is a looming Dem disaster for 2020! empedocles Sep 2019 #52

Careful. Some here will accuse you of spouting rightwing talking points for daring LincolnRossiter Sep 2019 #56

Speaker Pelosi-There's no need to reinvent health care -- just improve Obamacare Gothmog Sep 2019 #59

Societal Savings are not tax revenues and cannot be use to pay for this plan Gothmog Sep 2019 #60