Democratic Primaries

tonedevil

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97. Yes I do understand...

Wed Sep 18, 2019, 07:16 PM

Sep 2019

that FDR while managing to save the country from fiscal ruin had a terrible record regarding race. Given the time it would be hard to seriously think that Ms. Perkins didn't at the least accept the view that non-white people were in some way inferior. I see no evidence that she was extrordinary in her racism or that she was particularly invested in it. White people were very racist at the time and in fact if you think we are so much better now take the Implicit Race Test https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/user/agg/blindspot/indexrk.htm and get to know yourself a bit. I know I was surprised.
As far as the new found concern that Perkins was a segrgationist other than the obscure interview, that I can't find evidence was ever published, there aren't any other incidence of her making such statements. If it is problamatic to praise Perkins due to the racism she participated in and aparently approved of there is no person that it isn't problamatic to praise.

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Biden Quoting David Brooks Should Be Disqualifying Alone [View all] Blue_Adept Sep 2019 OP

Not a story Loki Liesmith Sep 2019 #1

Of course not, lets close our eyes and ears to every gaffe and love him more for it Perseus Sep 2019 #9

This ISn't a gaff. Uberpartisanship and demonizing lead to evil. Hortensis Sep 2019 #30

Point of order: Act_of_Reparation Sep 2019 #32

Can you name a Republican pundit who is not evil? If not... LAS14 Sep 2019 #71

Too easy LAS. I can think of Cartaphelius Sep 2019 #80

Fwiw, I could name a bunch here I feel may have better ideals, Hortensis Sep 2019 #87

The hardest job for the next president may be fixing Trump's mess Gothmog Sep 2019 #82

Oh please DownriverDem Sep 2019 #38

I wonder if the "who cares if he quotes a writer who's spent his career undermining Democrats" pass StarfishSaver Sep 2019 #42

Ok I get it people in other circles believe Biden supporters are like tRump voters njhoneybadger Sep 2019 #44

So right, these cringeworthy gaffes DO matter. Should go with a steadier candidate who's quick InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2019 #49

It wasn't a gaffe. It was exemplary of a healthy two party system. Which we have... LAS14 Sep 2019 #70

Warren supporter, of course. Butterflylady Sep 2019 #14

She'd had my vote as my Senator for years. Blue_Adept Sep 2019 #29

She has only been on a ballot twice. George II Sep 2019 #61

That would be years. /nt tonedevil Sep 2019 #64

Bazinga! melman Sep 2019 #75

Yes, which with six year terms, means years. Blue_Adept Sep 2019 #99

That particular quote is rather innocuous Sherman A1 Sep 2019 #2

All it says to me is that he likes more than just this from Brooks Blue_Adept Sep 2019 #4

You know what worrries me? Warren gets the nomination and goes down in the general. Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #34

That is precisely what would happen. Biden is battle tough and would prevail handily. George II Sep 2019 #62

Exactly...we probably get the Senate too...then we end the filibuster ...it is time... Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #66

What worries me is that we push too far to the center Sherman A1 Sep 2019 #63

We need votes in moderate states...Warren is run to far left for these states IMHO...but Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #65

I am much farther to the Left than is Warren so while I agree that Sherman A1 Sep 2019 #68

A bold move...will be seen as socialist policies...I am a progressive but I don't make the error of Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #72

We will have to agree to Sherman A1 Sep 2019 #74

Warren: Senator, yes DownriverDem Sep 2019 #39

I am a woman and wanted Hillary desperately in 16, but I sadly agree with you. Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #67

Nearly 66 million Americans voted for one last time John Fante Sep 2019 #79

this is where I stand as well nt Celerity Sep 2019 #25

Me too! True Dough Sep 2019 #51

Brooks may seem like a "smart guy" to Biden, but Joe is not acting very smart. n/t monmouth4 Sep 2019 #3

Brooks: Marianne Williamson Knows How to Beat Trump crazytown Sep 2019 #5

He has a very good staff BeyondGeography Sep 2019 #6

yes he does, and they have their hands full, lololol nt Celerity Sep 2019 #26

I'm sure they're on standby fundraiser duty BeyondGeography Sep 2019 #27

Brooks said he was voting for Obama/Biden. He endorsed them. mucifer Sep 2019 #7

Another self-appointed disqualifier. So tiresome. RelativelyJones Sep 2019 #8

The Voters will decide.. not those Cha Sep 2019 #10

I'm the one that said it. And I'm a voter. Blue_Adept Sep 2019 #11

I'm talking about the majority of Cha Sep 2019 #12

But like me you will of course vote for the Democratic nominee...even if it is Biden in a general. Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #36

How come DownriverDem Sep 2019 #41

i quote conservative ppl all the time.. sometimes they do say smart things. samnsara Sep 2019 #13

Perfect statement. oldsoftie Sep 2019 #17

Horseshit. Grasping at silly straws. oldsoftie Sep 2019 #15

This is just nonsense, and that they don't realize what a disservice to the candidate they support still_one Sep 2019 #22

It shouldn't. I don't think less of other Democrats because of blm Sep 2019 #33

People say that all the time...about how they like your candidate less because of something you said Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #37

No matter how annoying they can be, no one's posts here could possibly blm Sep 2019 #45

I agree with you there...I will vote blue no matter who...maybe I should hang out in the lounge Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #52

I agree, but unfortunately I think it does. I think we saw it the last time, and I am concerned still_one Sep 2019 #47

what is this.... quickesst Sep 2019 #16

LOL.. Cha Sep 2019 #18

Heh... quickesst Sep 2019 #20

Surely he should be able to speak an opinion on a columnist? cwydro Sep 2019 #19

I disagree. Quoting Brooks is not disqualifying Raven123 Sep 2019 #21

This quote in and of itself isn't a problem dsc Sep 2019 #23

He wants to try...and maybe it will work...what is your plan to never cooperate ever and get nothing Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #40

Yeah. We should just give up redstateblues Sep 2019 #50

No we need to be crystal clear dsc Sep 2019 #95

David Brooks' "Bobos in Paradise" is a good book. betsuni Sep 2019 #24

you are reaching Otto Lidenbrock Sep 2019 #28

lol evertonfc Sep 2019 #31

I didn't even know Biden was at a fund raiser...some have Biden derangement syndrome... Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #43

Oh the horror. themaguffin Sep 2019 #35

I'm with you. Polly Hennessey Sep 2019 #77

Wearisome! peggysue2 Sep 2019 #46

Well stated. nt LAS14 Sep 2019 #73

Not disqualifying at all SharonClark Sep 2019 #48

Oh nooooooooooooooooooooooo awesomerwb1 Sep 2019 #53

Oh, FFS. "Disqualifying" would be something like The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2019 #54

I like Joe as a person... Locrian Sep 2019 #57

Then support someone else, but all this nitpicking is just stupid. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2019 #58

i agree the David Brooks thing is stupid.... Locrian Sep 2019 #60

Nonsense, lol Sugarcoated Sep 2019 #55

Disqualification can only be determined by the primary voters treestar Sep 2019 #56

Ground bait thrown into the water to attract fish should be disqualifying as well. LanternWaste Sep 2019 #59

For me David Brooks is a beacon of hope for resuming a healthy two party system. nt LAS14 Sep 2019 #69

I look forward to the day when our party leaders prefer the words and wisdom of actual Democrats. LonePirate Sep 2019 #76

Now there's a headline I can get behind! Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2019 #78

We are in a battle for the soul of this nation. Gothmog Sep 2019 #81

He has the strongest message for "the moment we are in." And he was the first candidate to call emmaverybo Sep 2019 #88

Disturbing melman Sep 2019 #83

As long as we're into dumb nitpicking, Ann Coulter kinda likes Bernie: The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2019 #85

It's not nitpicking melman Sep 2019 #89

Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2019 #91

"most other people don't either" melman Sep 2019 #92

You can say that again rusty fender Sep 2019 #84

I know. I know. Warren has been criticized for praising racist Francis Perkins, so you come up emmaverybo Sep 2019 #86

If racist is the way you describe Francis Perkins, then I feel blm Sep 2019 #90

Racist is how many black people characterize her statements and stances. Pro-segregation? Victim emmaverybo Sep 2019 #93

Which black people are... tonedevil Sep 2019 #94

Hate to break it to you, but FDR had policies today considered racist and anti-Semitic. Her resume emmaverybo Sep 2019 #96

Yes I do understand... tonedevil Sep 2019 #97

OK. Yes, probably no white person, huh? I do see what you are saying. And it seems we should emmaverybo Sep 2019 #98

Completely incorrect! Blue_Adept Sep 2019 #100

Fair enough. I believe you. Not a tit for tat. Let's not go over the top, huh? Was hard for me to emmaverybo Sep 2019 #101

Elizabeth Warren was a registered Republican well into her 40s. stonecutter357 Sep 2019 #102

And there are plenty of people here who were Republicans once Blue_Adept Sep 2019 #103

So it's OK to vote for and it's ok to be a Republicon , But Quoting one is Disqualifying ? stonecutter357 Sep 2019 #104