Democratic Primaries

Zaphod42

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46. Interesting thread...

Thu Sep 19, 2019, 09:47 PM

Sep 2019

I'm very much the newbie here at DU; I've seen more actual discussion on this thread than on any other that I've read (so far)....It seems that most of what I see here at DU consists of people posting links to articles from HuffPost or DKos, etc... and trading snarky comments.

Anyhoo, I digress...

Insurance, of any sort, has always confounded me. I carry insurance because it's stupid not to, but gawd!, the terms/conditions/limitations/exclusions, et al, are just almost indecipherable!

To your question...I think that M4A is the most desirable path, but is it politically doable? The ACA was a huge step forward, but obviously not a perfect fit for everyone. It seems like no one is talking about the actual cost of healthcare...I think that any discussion about healthcare needs to start there. WHY is healthcare in this country so much more expensive than almost anywhere else in the world? I don't know, but it's quite clear that "for profit" healthcare has failed most of the people who most need it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Which do you Favor and Why: Medicare for All or ACA expansion? [View all] kennetha Sep 2019 OP

I favor which ever one is most popular and will win us the election. Then get to work on the best dem4decades Sep 2019 #1

Medicare for all HopeAgain Sep 2019 #2

Care to elaborate kennetha Sep 2019 #3

She just gave you a serious argument. DemocracyMouse Sep 2019 #52

Not in my case... OneGrassRoot Sep 2019 #5

Affordable for you, maybe HopeAgain Sep 2019 #36

I absolutely agree it should be a right for all... OneGrassRoot Sep 2019 #44

ACA expansion would work better if EVERY state takes the Medicaid yellowdogintexas Sep 2019 #16

Right that was the law! kennetha Sep 2019 #20

How will you pay for it-societal savings are not tax revenues and cannot be used to pay for MFA Gothmog Sep 2019 #53

My mom was on ACA when she got cancer. Eko Oct 2019 #85

ACA has too many short falls. Prosper Sep 2019 #4

Poor people subsidizing rich people??? kennetha Sep 2019 #6

Traditional Medicare has copays and deductibles too but they are yellowdogintexas Sep 2019 #15

In 2019 the maxmium deductible allowed by the ACA is dflprincess Sep 2019 #33

Almost half of the members can't afford co-pays Prosper Sep 2019 #38

Underinsured means having insurance and can't use it. Prosper Sep 2019 #42

This message was self-deleted by its author Prosper Sep 2019 #39

This message was self-deleted by its author Prosper Sep 2019 #40

See 38 Prosper Sep 2019 #41

It is so easy to knock something with made up assumptions when what you support isn't even defined. wasupaloopa Sep 2019 #9

Nothing made up about ACA. Prosper Sep 2019 #31

This whole debate is about adding a public option. With that all your points are null and void wasupaloopa Sep 2019 #51

Completing the ACA would allow anyone who wanted it to sign Hortensis Sep 2019 #22

Good ideas posted 9/14 Pantagruel Sep 2019 #7

Private insurance gains nothing from disease prevention ?? kennetha Sep 2019 #8

This is rediculous. Desease prevention starts and ends with the individual. You can't force wasupaloopa Sep 2019 #10

Offering important screenings without deductible or copay yellowdogintexas Sep 2019 #18

Offering the screening with copays & deductibles is great dflprincess Sep 2019 #34

Thank you. Prosper Sep 2019 #56

So are you, or are you not, a Blue Dog Democrat? Could we clarify that? YOHABLO Sep 2019 #11

No kennetha Sep 2019 #12

Why did you give two of the same option? TCJ70 Sep 2019 #13

Universal Coverage is the end kennetha Sep 2019 #14

Medicare For All Who Want It. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2019 #17

Vote DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2019 #19

Offer both. Seriously. yellowdogintexas Sep 2019 #21

The Supremes said the law authorizing Medicaid would have to be rewritten! kennetha Sep 2019 #23

Yes. Anything that leaves no Americans without healthcare coverage is Politicub Sep 2019 #24

ACA Expansion Baked Potato Sep 2019 #25

Medicare for all - we need to nationlize healthcare bitterross Sep 2019 #26

Medicare For All because it is immoral to make profits from denying people healthcare. Nanjeanne Sep 2019 #27

Medicare for All. Why? KPN Sep 2019 #28

Medicare for all. ACA really was unaffordable for too many. Joe941 Sep 2019 #29

Warren and Sanders say Americans don't like their health insurance. Polls don't back that up. Gothmog Sep 2019 #30

MFA is a pipe dream & promises everything but has little to no chance elocs Sep 2019 #32

I'm not in favor of leaving 10 million people uninsured wellst0nev0ter Sep 2019 #35

Medicare buy in option for the ACA exchanges krawhitham Sep 2019 #37

Speaker Pelosi-There's no need to reinvent health care -- just improve Obamacare Gothmog Sep 2019 #43

Buttigieg tells Medicare-for-all proponents to show their cards Gothmog Sep 2019 #45

+10000 emmaverybo Sep 2019 #55

Interesting thread... Zaphod42 Sep 2019 #46

Why is healthcare more expensive here? Blue_true Sep 2019 #48

I favor ACA expansion if the following are met. Blue_true Sep 2019 #47

Medicare for all, but I absolutely believe that the ACA, if allowed... SKKY Sep 2019 #49

The ACA actually exists in the real world. People are much more comradebillyboy Sep 2019 #50

It's not completely a binary choice Midnightwalk Sep 2019 #54

Start with Medicare for all and compromise down to ACA/public option IronLionZion Sep 2019 #57

NBC/WSJ poll shows Biden's healthcare stance (optional Medicare buy-in) much more popular Gothmog Sep 2019 #58

The ACA...MFA will never happen and why would we start over? Americans like the ACA and would Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #59

Voters will not tolerate an additional 10 or 15% paycheck deduction to fund M4A madville Sep 2019 #60

I'd like to go to Medicare for all; I don't think you can sell it in this election. brooklynite Sep 2019 #61

ACA expansion. nt Blue_true Sep 2019 #62

I'll go first. ACA expansion. trueblue2007 Sep 2019 #63

MFA with an optional opt-out andym Sep 2019 #64

Why Elizabeth Warren won't talk about the cost of 'Medicare for All' Gothmog Oct 2019 #71

She now has. She claims it will put 11 trillion dollars of savings in the pocket of the middle class andym Nov 2019 #87

I'm tired, and I could (really) write a short book on this, so I'll keep it short Algernon Moncrieff Sep 2019 #65

Medicare for All Eric J in MN Sep 2019 #66

Improve BOTH Medicare and Obamacare and begin phasing out the patchwork... TreasonousBastard Sep 2019 #67

Obamacare Has Made People Healthier Gothmog Oct 2019 #68

73% of people favor [the] public option that would keep private insurance in place Gothmog Oct 2019 #69

Support for a public option has been increasing, and for Medicare-for-All has been decreasing Gothmog Oct 2019 #70

Choices for Financing Medicare for All: A Preliminary Analysis Gothmog Oct 2019 #72

If those projection are anywhere close, MFA ain't gonna happen without big changes. That's unlikely. Hoyt Oct 2019 #77

I favor not being lectured to about what's "possible" Act_of_Reparation Oct 2019 #73

MFA. There is really nothing else that will work. nt Autumn Oct 2019 #74

A dose of reality for Medicare-for-all Gothmog Oct 2019 #75

That's depressing. But why Vermont, Colorado and Cal abandoned consideration of single-payer quickly Hoyt Oct 2019 #78

Vermont was unable to adopt a single payer plan Gothmog Oct 2019 #79

Yep. I figured the legislators in all those states just didn't have the guts to tell voters what it Hoyt Oct 2019 #81

ACA Expansion redstatebluegirl Oct 2019 #76

ACA expansion. nt lamp_shade Oct 2019 #80

MFA: everyone should have comprehensive health care. Voltaire2 Oct 2019 #82

Based on tax revenue JT45242 Oct 2019 #83

Honestly not sure. redqueen Oct 2019 #84

A good rule of thumb: Don't get to Pelosi's left Gothmog Oct 2019 #86

ACA expansion. Because it is feasible in any congress makeup we could imagine in 2021 scheming daemons Nov 2019 #88