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Hortensis

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84. Harassment is harassment, regardless of the target.

Fri Sep 20, 2019, 12:30 PM

Sep 2019

It's also regardless of the method. A lot of lawsuits were filed against state parties and then dropped once the media moved on. Don't for a moment imagine the people of all those states wanted their donations to end up being used to answer phony, harassing lawsuits. OR for special security to guard against hack attacks, threats against officials and their homes, and mobs at party events.

Congrats on having Warren for a choice this time. Some of the same people are drawn to her, but they'll be the better for it if they stick. Good leaders elevate, and Warren feeds aspirations, not antagonisms.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Working Families Party Staffers Face Harassment After Warren Endorsement [View all] George II Sep 2019 OP

Ah.. ".. racial slurs against Black staffers.. " :( Cha Sep 2019 #1

Remember Portland 2016 and what happened to the BLM people at a Bernie rally. Blue_true Sep 2019 #11

Sounds like solid analysis Cha Sep 2019 #12

Yes. A lot of populists are at least somewhat socially conservative. Hortensis Sep 2019 #41

Dolores enid602 Sep 2019 #72

I haven't. The way Sarandon treated that legend was beyond shameful. nt Blue_true Sep 2019 #125

Ay Caramba!! LakeArenal Sep 2019 #2

They have no self awareness. Cha Sep 2019 #3

That's horrible MustLoveBeagles Sep 2019 #4

As a young man , Bernie marched with Dr. King ritapria Sep 2019 #5

Yeah we know. That doesn't excuse Cha Sep 2019 #6

OTOH, I wouldn't be surprised if some of those are not real Berners, but ratf**kers deliberately tblue37 Sep 2019 #69

I Was Going To Say That Me. Sep 2019 #70

No we don't.. Cha Sep 2019 #124

Bernie isn't responsible for these assholes did MustLoveBeagles Sep 2019 #7

He's responsible for Sirota, Turner, and Gray. George II Sep 2019 #9

Good reminder, George! Cha Sep 2019 #14

Yes he is MustLoveBeagles Sep 2019 #144

He already has cannabis_flower Sep 2019 #10

GMTA--I suggested the same thing: ratf**kers nt tblue37 Sep 2019 #71

No he didn't! He was AT the "March on Washington" back in 1963, along with 249,999 others.... George II Sep 2019 #8

Moscow Mitch was also in that crowd... SidDithers Sep 2019 #23

Was going to post the same.... Docreed2003 Sep 2019 #26

Bazinga! George II Sep 2019 #35

+1 dalton99a Sep 2019 #38

Thank you -- was coming here to state this obamanut2012 Sep 2019 #46

He attended a speech by Martin Luthur King. They didn't march together. comradebillyboy Sep 2019 #13

He also chained himself to a black woman... SidDithers Sep 2019 #22

Oh, right!!! An actual black woman. ehrnst Sep 2019 #126

Um, no, he didnt: LongtimeAZDem Sep 2019 #24

When I was younger I was a community organizer with Barack Obama. Oh wait, no.... George II Sep 2019 #36

He didn't march "with" Dr. King PhoenixDem Sep 2019 #47

So did Mitch McConnell mcar Sep 2019 #56

Yes, Ritapria, Sanders IS responsible as a populist leader Hortensis Sep 2019 #68

+1 betsuni Sep 2019 #138

The lives and myths of Bernie Sanders wasupaloopa Sep 2019 #94

Well, then so did Charleston Heston, by that definition. ehrnst Sep 2019 #123

Then he can disavow them and their aggressive harassment, but he doesn't, a fact that shows a emmaverybo Sep 2019 #127

LOL nini Sep 2019 #137

This type of conduct will alienate voters Gothmog Sep 2019 #15

BS is finished already PhoenixDem Sep 2019 #49

The WFP should release the vote count. Put all this conspiracy shit to rest. TCJ70 Sep 2019 #16

Long form birth certificate. Transcript of paid speech. Emails. Conspiracy theory. betsuni Sep 2019 #17

Ugh... TCJ70 Sep 2019 #20

WFP is a private organization -they don't have to do anything PhoenixDem Sep 2019 #50

Do you know the process they used for this vote? TCJ70 Sep 2019 #51

So what? Their organization, their rules PhoenixDem Sep 2019 #52

I LITERALLY WROTE "OBVIOUSLY NO ONE IS ENTITLED TO AN ENDORSEMENT". It's a rare day... TCJ70 Sep 2019 #55

I saw it ... but the rest of your post negated that line. n/t PhoenixDem Sep 2019 #59

TCJ, as Betsuni so succinctly says. You didn't really believe dozens of state Hortensis Sep 2019 #81

Just like PhoenixDem...why are you injecting arguments that weren't made... TCJ70 Sep 2019 #82

Harassment is harassment, regardless of the target. Hortensis Sep 2019 #84

They can make their own rules, just as the DNC can make their own rules..... George II Sep 2019 #98

I never said otherwise, only said what I thought would be... TCJ70 Sep 2019 #100

Who is "lumping all Sanders supporters into one category?" ehrnst Sep 2019 #130

PheonixDem did. And I quote: TCJ70 Sep 2019 #132

I thought that was about his staffers. (nt) ehrnst Sep 2019 #142

No one from the campaign is among the people in the complaints... TCJ70 Sep 2019 #143

Hillary "didn't clear up her speeches?" ehrnst Sep 2019 #90

As far as I know... TCJ70 Sep 2019 #91

Right, she thought that releasing her tax returns for 10 years was more important. ehrnst Sep 2019 #93

Ok. TCJ70 Sep 2019 #104

Ok. ehrnst Sep 2019 #105

She was a private citizen when she made those speeches, why should she have to.... George II Sep 2019 #99

Nothing that you wrote is relevant to the conversation at hand. TCJ70 Sep 2019 #103

Well, there were those who were going to jump on anything, real or fictional ehrnst Sep 2019 #106

It only continued to follow her because one person wouldn't let it go..... George II Sep 2019 #117

"Yet he was still hammering away at Clinton, invoking the words betsuni Sep 2019 #134

And the smearing of WFP continues. ehrnst Sep 2019 #128

This mcar Sep 2019 #58

... OilemFirchen Sep 2019 #61

It's 2019...not 2015. TCJ70 Sep 2019 #64

What "controversy"? (n/t) OilemFirchen Sep 2019 #65

That's why it's in quotes. n/t TCJ70 Sep 2019 #66

So much hate, you'd think these were Trump supporters IronLionZion Sep 2019 #18

must.. hold.. my.. tongue! -nt. Amimnoch Sep 2019 #27

Wish I could say what I think but I shouldn't. redstatebluegirl Sep 2019 #30

They are cranky and hateful like the old man dalton99a Sep 2019 #39

They could be trolls IronLionZion Sep 2019 #85

WFP is getting the same treatment Warren got from Sanders supporters when she endorsed HRC ehrnst Sep 2019 #129

Fucking despicable. Act_of_Reparation Sep 2019 #19

That really does reveal quite a lot, doesn't it? NurseJackie Sep 2019 #21

These miscreants have no place in our party DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2019 #25

+100, but I'm sure a lot of the most passionate aren't or Hortensis Sep 2019 #29

Williamson says love will defeat hate IronLionZion Sep 2019 #101

Tweets from Bernie and Nina Turner Autumn Sep 2019 #28

Yeah, that should do it LongtimeAZDem Sep 2019 #31

Not here to argue it. Just posted their responses condemning those actions, take it as you will. Autumn Sep 2019 #33

Two sentences from BS and one from NT. On twitter! George II Sep 2019 #32

If they are asked about it by the media I'm sure there will be more said. Posted because I Autumn Sep 2019 #37

Passive wording that doesn't include "I" doesn't really project ehrnst Sep 2019 #107

And BS' tweet doesn't address the problem of his supporters directly, just another campaign pitch. George II Sep 2019 #139

Yep. ehrnst Sep 2019 #141

A day late and a dollar short PhoenixDem Sep 2019 #43

Turner has no room to lecture anyone obamanut2012 Sep 2019 #48

I think she does, those people should not be posting things like that to the WFP staff. Autumn Sep 2019 #62

Would have been nice to have said "I, along with my campaign, condemn..." ehrnst Sep 2019 #73

Another missed opportunity. What a shame. NurseJackie Sep 2019 #114

Turner has said worse things about Hillary BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #87

Hear hear. (nt) ehrnst Sep 2019 #108

Indeed. (nt) ehrnst Sep 2019 #77

That is just wrong...no one should allow this in their campaign...it makes Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #34

Lol @ "allow this in their campaign" Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2019 #40

By setting an example PhoenixDem Sep 2019 #45

Question for you. What has he said or done that encourages someone to say anything Autumn Sep 2019 #53

Even the condemnations are done with a wink and a nod. PhoenixDem Sep 2019 #57

Which parts are the wink and a nod? No politician can "command" supporters to do anything Autumn Sep 2019 #67

It's not that he literally "encouraged" them to bully someone, of course he didn't ehrnst Sep 2019 #83

BS can command PhoenixDem Sep 2019 #86

I'm a supporter and I don't yell because he yells, I don't see it as yelling either. He talks loud Autumn Sep 2019 #89

lol PhoenixDem Sep 2019 #92

I disagree that Bernie gives tacit approval of of such tactics. I've seen nothing like that. Autumn Sep 2019 #95

By not stomping out militancy at every step he does imply approval n/t PhoenixDem Sep 2019 #102

Okay, sure. NurseJackie Sep 2019 #140

He couldn't and wouldn't want to do that. His brand is based in anger, and wanting people to be ehrnst Sep 2019 #122

Complaints about supporters' tone have been ubiquitous BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #88

I have seen similar actions and conduct close up by sanders supporters Gothmog Sep 2019 #63

I remember. (nt) ehrnst Sep 2019 #78

Did he publicly condemn the jeering of Rep. John Lewis by his supporters ehrnst Sep 2019 #75

It's not necessarily what he has said and done that are the problem.... George II Sep 2019 #96

I asked what Bernie has done George. Do you have a link to what Briahna Gray did? Autumn Sep 2019 #110

It's on twitter. She posts her tweets under her own name. So Sanders is absolved.... George II Sep 2019 #111

Do you have a link? I looked at a Briahna Gray on twitter and didn't see it. nt Autumn Sep 2019 #112

This message was self-deleted by its author TexasTowelie Sep 2019 #113

They run off the page quickly, hard to keep up with. But if you're on twitter, just follow her.... George II Sep 2019 #116

Thanks for the whole twitter name, I'll look for it. nt Autumn Sep 2019 #118

You're welcome. You might want to look at David Sirota's account, too... George II Sep 2019 #119

The sanders campaign had veto rights over his delegates at the national convention Gothmog Sep 2019 #79

Don't ignore this. Call it out ...say it won't be tolerated...that will stop some...any who are Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #80

You mean like he's already done? Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2019 #97

What about when they aren't anonymous twitter trolls? What if they're right there in front of him. ehrnst Sep 2019 #109

I doubt he wrote it himself. Those are someone else's words. He missed a golden opportunity... NurseJackie Sep 2019 #115

Well, I'm sure after it was written, he had to approve it. I understand that nothing happens without ehrnst Sep 2019 #120

Agreed. Something like that should get his personal attention... NurseJackie Sep 2019 #133

lulz George II Sep 2019 #135

Is anyone surprised? PhoenixDem Sep 2019 #42

No Gothmog Sep 2019 #60

Yes you have. crazytown Sep 2019 #74

A replay of 2016 obamanut2012 Sep 2019 #44

This is disgusting mcar Sep 2019 #54

If Bernie had won the WFP endorsement does anyone think Warren's comradebillyboy Sep 2019 #76

+1000. (nt) ehrnst Sep 2019 #121

Excellent question, comradebillyboy! Cha Sep 2019 #131

... Scurrilous Sep 2019 #136

Another victim Gothmog Sep 2019 #145