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BeyondGeography

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Fri Sep 20, 2019, 12:48 PM Sep 2019

Young Black Voters to Their Biden-Supporting Parents: 'Is This Your King?' [View all]

HOUSTON — A groan erupted at a debate watch party at Texas Southern University last week as former vice president Joseph R. Biden Jr. got a question about slavery and racism and gave an answer about Venezuela and record players.

But amid that exasperation, some students channeled their inner Beltway operatives and began a targeted rapid-response campaign. Tyler Smith, 19, texted his grandmother after the debate, hopeful that Mr. Biden's meandering answer may have swayed her from supporting him. Amaya St. Romain, 19, mounted a three-day lobbying blitz on her mother and her great-grandmother, making sure they had seen the former housing secretary Julián Castro’s criticisms of Mr. Biden onstage.

In meme-speak, the efforts amounted to Killmonger, the villain in the Black Panther movie, challenging the people of Wakanda: “Is this your king?”

...At Texas Southern University, a historically black university founded in 1927 and the site of last week’s Democratic debate, dozens of students, ages 19 to 23, differed on their top candidate. Senators Bernie Sanders of Vermont, Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, and Kamala Harris of California were among the favorites, as was one of the two Texans in the race, former Representative Beto O’Rourke.

For Mr. Biden, though, students carried mixed feelings. They respected his tenure as Barack Obama’s vice president, but implicitly rejected his campaign’s central premise, that the primary goal of Democrats in the 2020 election should be defeating President Trump. They pointed to systemic problems they said the country must address, such as inequality, climate change and gun violence. The Democratic nominee, they said, should embrace progressive proposals like canceling student loan debt, the Green New Deal and gun buyback programs.

More at https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/20/us/politics/joe-biden-black-voters.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage
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Fine. Take your eyes off the main goal & you'll get nowhere. oldsoftie Sep 2019 #1
This is actually not a great way to look at activism. Electoral politics is one tool to cause WhiskeyGrinder Sep 2019 #2
But it's a true statement Clash City Rocker Sep 2019 #3
Precisely why Bernie is the obvious choice!! InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2019 #30
But we want someone who can actually win. nt oldsoftie Sep 2019 #44
That's the thing. Many of us don't believe Biden would win the election. hedda_foil Sep 2019 #6
This. cwydro Sep 2019 #16
And many of us believe Biden has the best chance of beating Trump, and polls back us up. highplainsdem Sep 2019 #22
I remember when the polls said the same about Kerry and Clinton. Gore1FL Sep 2019 #35
Of all the top tier candidates, if nominated, Joe would have the WORST chance of defeating InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2019 #32
bwahahahahahahahahahaha BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #56
And I see this for Warren. SergeStorms Sep 2019 #43
Of course they'll come for Warren, but she's much more nimble and future oriented. hedda_foil Sep 2019 #50
And you know this.... SergeStorms Sep 2019 #53
A whole damn lot of experience. hedda_foil Sep 2019 #57
Me what? SergeStorms Sep 2019 #61
If he shows signs of weakness mentally that concerns me, I'll change. oldsoftie Sep 2019 #46
I don't think there are enough fence-sitting Trump voters to matter caraher Sep 2019 #51
Could be, but '16 showed a few things. oldsoftie Sep 2019 #70
My goal is to win back the White House Boomer Sep 2019 #17
Right now Warren is tied with Trump in WI. Joe is up 9 redstateblues Sep 2019 #27
General election polls this far out are virtually worthless Bradshaw3 Sep 2019 #29
Policy promises don't win elections. redstateblues Sep 2019 #78
And we have a year left to go Boomer Sep 2019 #47
Not everyone thinks Biden will be the strongest in the general, pnwmom Sep 2019 #24
...high popularity... tirebiter Sep 2019 #58
Not really. Just as with Hillary, he isn't as popular a candidate for President pnwmom Sep 2019 #59
+1000 blue-wave Sep 2019 #41
Some things are safe and inevitable, until they aren't Fiendish Thingy Sep 2019 #4
Well how about AOC as VP...do you think that would energize the youth vote? Anon-C Sep 2019 #28
It would, when she's old enough nt Fiendish Thingy Sep 2019 #34
... Anon-C Sep 2019 #42
She is too young to be Vice President whopis01 Sep 2019 #37
It would certainly energize the RIGHT, even if she was old enough to run. oldsoftie Sep 2019 #45
Yes, would LOVE it... but AOC's not eligible to be VP. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2019 #48
the status quo is not a winnable platform HeartlandProgressive Sep 2019 #5
Trump and Mitch McConnell are the "status quo" now emulatorloo Sep 2019 #19
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Hi there BeyondGeography Sep 2019 #8
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Actually I was a DeBlasio guy until this morning BeyondGeography Sep 2019 #10
Ha! That was a good one Bradshaw3 Sep 2019 #31
good let's go Joe ! stonecutter357 Sep 2019 #11
I guess there are some things you have to live long enough on this earth to know Dream Girl Sep 2019 #12
+1,000,000 oasis Sep 2019 #33
Thx for sharing personal experience.. so much more than just an opinion! Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #36
Younger voters have longer to.live in the world older folks created. BlueWI Sep 2019 #63
Off course we do. We need to listen to each other. Dream Girl Sep 2019 #75
majority of white people support trump JI7 Sep 2019 #13
Not seeing the relevance BeyondGeography Sep 2019 #21
it's very relevant. JI7 Sep 2019 #23
Gawd forbid old folks vote how they want to. Lol BootinUp Sep 2019 #14
Killmonger dies in the end of Black Panther Jose Garcia Sep 2019 #15
Exactly. It might be smartass, but really isn't smart, to echo the villain. highplainsdem Sep 2019 #25
It is only the author of the article who uses that phrase. whopis01 Sep 2019 #38
The line seems to be getting a lot of applause from Biden critics on Twitter. highplainsdem Sep 2019 #40
That may be - I just meant in context of the article. whopis01 Sep 2019 #77
I doubt bombarding one's relatives with clips of Castro's meltdown will change minds. emulatorloo Sep 2019 #18
lol right? What kind of strategy is that DrToast Sep 2019 #20
Except he was right wellst0nev0ter Sep 2019 #64
This is disqualifying Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2019 #26
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No it isn't. George II Sep 2019 #54
Depends upon the definition PhoenixDem Sep 2019 #55
They must be getting divisive propaganda to discourage them from voting at all. Because they ancianita Sep 2019 #39
I sure wouldn't extrapolate anything from the NY Times after the crap they pulled in 2016, and their still_one Sep 2019 #52
I hear you. But I despise Jeff Bezos for lots of non-news-related reasons. ancianita Sep 2019 #60
I believe all young voters have a poor turnout rate. NCLefty Sep 2019 #62
I wonder why...? wellst0nev0ter Sep 2019 #65
because young people are far more focused on other things . young people of every generation JI7 Sep 2019 #66
Or they are not inspired wellst0nev0ter Sep 2019 #67
no, they are just not focused on politics. they are newly independent in the world JI7 Sep 2019 #68
Millennials are almost as large as boomers and half of them voted in 2016 BeyondGeography Sep 2019 #69
Bill Clinton The First Black President, Biden The Third By Proxy DrFunkenstein Sep 2019 #71
Some young black voters probably have this mentality. LincolnRossiter Sep 2019 #72
I just can't with my millennial AA grandson... Kahuna7 Sep 2019 #73
I really don't get the antipathy toward Biden. He isn't even a conservative Democrat. LincolnRossiter Sep 2019 #74
This may be a fissure Russia can exploit Dream Girl Sep 2019 #76
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