Democratic Primaries

emulatorloo

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36. Read the replies to your thread for historical context

Fri Sep 20, 2019, 05:31 PM

Sep 2019

It would be great if you wrote a positive thread about the candidates you feel a passion for. That would be very helpful for undecideds.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Remember Hubert Humphrey? He was supposedly the safe choice against the despised Richard Nixon. [View all] pnwmom Sep 2019 OP

Sorry,but the Vietnam war made many dislike LBJ. virgogal Sep 2019 #1

And then they really loved Nixon (n/t) PJMcK Sep 2019 #2

The OP said that Johnson was "very successful"---I was responding to that. They were chaotic times. virgogal Sep 2019 #9

Yes, you're right PJMcK Sep 2019 #14

Bobby Kennedy was a major factor: would have had the nomination pretty certainly. maddiemom Sep 2019 #56

Bobby Kennedy would have probably had the Dem's1968 nomination. maddiemom Sep 2019 #60

Yes. boomer_wv Sep 2019 #66

Let's be honest. With the curse of "social media" yes, it is a curse question everything Sep 2019 #82

This!! Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #102

Thank-you. That was one reason why Johnson stepped down. By that time it was an extremely still_one Sep 2019 #32

Exactly. Johnson came to be zentrum Sep 2019 #43

And let's not forget Nixon's treason kept the peace talks from advancing. n/t jaysunb Sep 2019 #50

Not forgetting that. The disaster.... zentrum Sep 2019 #70

Yes. I think about this all the time. And the bomb too - that war was over floppyboo Sep 2019 #97

He would have won, imo, but for perception he'd continue LBJ's (unsuccessful) elleng Sep 2019 #3

Who remembers that time when Nixon tried to sabotage the Vietnam peace talks to win an election? Gothmog Sep 2019 #105

Humphrey was hated by the progressives... brooklynite Sep 2019 #4

And then we got a progressive candidate in 1972, and Nixon crushed McGovern. highplainsdem Sep 2019 #16

Are you implying that Biden is not progressive? DemocracyMouse Sep 2019 #42

Biden's liberal. A moderate liberal by the standards of the left. His views are more in tune with highplainsdem Sep 2019 #68

Hmmmm. Add up all the progressive candidates percentages. DemocracyMouse Sep 2019 #71

hush now. They are all certain that polling at 30% is crushing it. Voltaire2 Sep 2019 #86

Voltaire! Rising from the literary dead to help democracy begin encore! DemocracyMouse Sep 2019 #90

You are so right!! demosincebirth Sep 2019 #64

Should it? crazytown Sep 2019 #18

That would involve re-litigating the last election. brooklynite Sep 2019 #20

Bobby would've smashed Tricky... Dennis Donovan Sep 2019 #5

Bobby would not have won the party's murielm99 Sep 2019 #41

I worked for Clean Gene after coming home from the war wasupaloopa Sep 2019 #58

We could've and would've had RFK Fiendish Thingy Sep 2019 #6

wait, wait, wait. you mean to tell me someone might have used the wrong adjective over 50 years ago? unblock Sep 2019 #7

Hillary was considered not safe by many simply because of her gender. n/t pnwmom Sep 2019 #10

Nixon sent an emissary to sabotage Vietnam peace talks just before the 1968 elections Gothmog Sep 2019 #106

Nixon also colluded with the South Vietnamese TheRealNorth Sep 2019 #8

Don't forget Nixon's racist Southern Strategy... rickyhall Sep 2019 #40

To be fair, I think it had a lot to do with R Kennedy assasinaton, Eugene McCarthy, George Wallace, Hoyt Sep 2019 #11

This ... plus BlueMTexpat Sep 2019 #27

Nixon did conspire w the South Vietnamese govt to sabotage peace talks Gothmog Sep 2019 #107

"Law and Order" won the day for the GOP after the chaos during oasis Sep 2019 #12

Nixon had a MUCH greater electoral and popular-vote victory against progressive McGovern in 1972 highplainsdem Sep 2019 #13

McGovern is the one always cited as too liberal. crazytown Sep 2019 #19

Most Electable Often Loses ritapria Sep 2019 #15

Humphrey lost by only 511,000 votes and he was saddled with LBJ's Vietnam War record. George II Sep 2019 #17

This too. eom BlueMTexpat Sep 2019 #28

No. He lost becasue many chose to stay home question everything Sep 2019 #21

Yes. It was "Clean Gene" and his purists Jakes Progress Sep 2019 #31

Humphrey was Mayor Daily's choice not the voter's. wasupaloopa Sep 2019 #63

And is getting Nixon, and five more years of war, worth it? question everything Sep 2019 #69

We did not cause Nixon's election. Life doesn't work that way. Standing up for what you belive in wasupaloopa Sep 2019 #73

And the "honorable" team gave us nixon Jakes Progress Sep 2019 #72

No they did not. Putting Nixon's election on those who opposed him is putting the responcibility wasupaloopa Sep 2019 #74

A nice ideal that doesn't help Jakes Progress Sep 2019 #85

You don't know anyone like that. You take responsibility wasupaloopa Sep 2019 #92

Agreed. BlueWI Sep 2019 #99

What does that even mean? Jakes Progress Sep 2019 #100

Biden supporters don't think he is only the safe choice, most of his support JI7 Sep 2019 #22

I've seen many people suggest that he's the "most electable." That implies that he's pnwmom Sep 2019 #23

becsuse they are making the case for others to vote for him JI7 Sep 2019 #24

No I don't...really reaching now aren't you? Remember the super liberal who was supposed to beat Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #25

Nixon was pretty popular qazplm135 Sep 2019 #26

Also true. eom BlueMTexpat Sep 2019 #29

Hubert Humphrey was "the happy warrior" in the old glad-handing, baby kissing... EarnestPutz Sep 2019 #30

It was all about the Vietnam war. Humphrey wasn't the "safe" choice; The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2019 #33

+++ still_one Sep 2019 #35

I agree LeftInTX Sep 2019 #93

What happened outside the Democratic Convention Mr.Bill Sep 2019 #34

This! dhol82 Sep 2019 #61

It's not that disruption, disruptive protest is *NEVER* the right thing to do The Mouth Sep 2019 #114

Read the replies to your thread for historical context emulatorloo Sep 2019 #36

I've written lots of positive threads and I lived through the historical context. pnwmom Sep 2019 #37

I am not "bullying" you. It was just a suggestion. You should write whatever you want to emulatorloo Sep 2019 #39

Not how i remember it at all. yellowcanine Sep 2019 #38

Exactly. trof Sep 2019 #44

Not ashamed to say my very first vote was for Humphrey. TNNurse Sep 2019 #45

My 6th grade class held a presidential vote in 1968 Martin Eden Sep 2019 #53

Thank you. honest.abe Sep 2019 #46

Also, Humphrey was very progressive. yellowcanine Sep 2019 #51

Yeah, because McGovern in '72 was a much better choice. elocs Sep 2019 #47

Johnson/Humphrey was unpopular. Buzz cook Sep 2019 #48

That doesn't mean we should therefore make the "unsafe choice." gulliver Sep 2019 #49

Apples and oranges PhoenixDem Sep 2019 #52

You do remember the police riot during the Dem convention wasupaloopa Sep 2019 #54

apples and oranges EveHammond13 Sep 2019 #55

Cart before the horse and apples and oranges. TidalWave46 Sep 2019 #57

The lesson of 1968 is the Dems beat themselves. empedocles Sep 2019 #59

The Dems beat themselves radical noodle Sep 2019 #79

As I said in another thread, the further left Dems, or as LBJ called them, 'the red hots', empedocles Sep 2019 #80

You're exactly right... radical noodle Sep 2019 #87

Thank you. Nam was huge. Draft age people probably unaware of the Great Society wins. empedocles Sep 2019 #89

I'm afraid you're right radical noodle Sep 2019 #95

I do have some optimism - very cautious optimism. That if we let the Pelosi process play out; not empedocles Sep 2019 #98

in '68, Nixon opened a back channel to Vietnam (w/help from Kissinger) to sabotage peace talks Gothmog Sep 2019 #108

That is true, just like tricky dick. When LBJ first got convincing clues, empedocles Sep 2019 #113

Tom Lehrer remembers him on "Whatever Became of Hubert" MadLinguist Sep 2019 #62

1968 called and wants its situation back treestar Sep 2019 #65

It was the Dem Party split, led by LBJ's problem 'red hots' on the left, that overrode empedocles Sep 2019 #67

I was a McGovern. He was the progressive candidate of the time and we lost BIG. UncleNoel Sep 2019 #75

McGovern was '72, Humphrey was '68. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2019 #94

Progressive Bobby Kennedy Would Have Won DrFunkenstein Sep 2019 #76

Humphrey fought and made it a close election Grins Sep 2019 #77

He was tainted by the ongoing Vietnam War radical noodle Sep 2019 #78

Biden Is Tainted By Rolling Over For The Iraq War DrFunkenstein Sep 2019 #81

Total bullshit...that. Anyone who wanted to could have dissented. Fact is we lost Max Cleland and Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #84

Anyone Could Have Dissented - Just Not in Biden's Public Hearings DrFunkenstein Sep 2019 #91

Progressive.org Re-writing history...good luck with this. Your candidate will not win the rust belt Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #96

Vietnam became LBJ's war radical noodle Sep 2019 #88

Nixon's treasonous conspiracy with the South Vietnamese govt - to sabotage peace talks Gothmog Sep 2019 #109

Remember who ran in 72. Demsrule86 Sep 2019 #83

So I guess I should just stop flipping trump voters for Biden? Deb Sep 2019 #101

1968 was a traumatic year-- dawg day Sep 2019 #103

Nixon tried to sabotage LBJ's peace efforts concerning Vietnam Gothmog Sep 2019 #104

We are in a very different time Skidmore Sep 2019 #110

Excellent post, Skidmore. sheshe2 Sep 2019 #111

+1000. ehrnst Sep 2019 #116

Excellent post, Skidmore. brer cat Sep 2019 #119

Great post! I'm very fortunate... NurseJackie Sep 2019 #121

kick and rec +++ still_one Sep 2019 #122

Great post. murielm99 Sep 2019 #123

Every election is unique Politicub Sep 2019 #112

Humphrey was viable and would have won but for Nixon's treason Gothmog Sep 2019 #115

No I don't remember. And I'm 53 years old. GulfCoast66 Sep 2019 #117

HHH was too tied to LBJ RhodeIslandOne Sep 2019 #118

Sure. I remember very well. MineralMan Sep 2019 #120