Nixon ran against a moderate/liberal Democrat in 1968 and a progressive in 1972

[qazplm135]

30. this is a poor argument on multiple levels

1. It's neither 68 or 72, Trump isn't Nixon, Biden isn't Humphrey and no one is McGovern

2. Nixon started his second term at 68 percent approval in Gallup. It was just over 60 percent on election day in 72, which was I believe actually higher than when he started his presidency (59 in Jan 69).

3. Responding to a poor argument with a poor argument does nothing. The arguments about Humphreys and Biden and whatnot are also poor arguments. So no, no one should look back to Humphrey nor should they look back to McGovern for any real lessons about 2016.

I am tired of centrists arguing that somehow the nation is center right and that the WORST thing we can do is nominate a progressive because they will never win. Obama was portrayed as a communist and won twice. Hillary ran on the most progressive platform ever and won the popular vote by 3 million people. Trump fluked his way into an 80K votes across three states EC win. That's all it was. It was not "proof" that we need a centrist anymore than Humphrey is "proof" that we need a progressive or McGovern is proof of anything.

So all of these attempts at historical "analysis" whether done by centrists or progressives to "prove" anything need to go back into the weak sauce can from whence they came.