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Boomer

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23. It's a complicated relationship

Sat Oct 5, 2019, 10:37 PM

Oct 2019

My mother was Mexican, and her family origins are a mix of European and Zapotec Indian, as is common among many of the inhabitants of Oaxaca, Mexico. My matrilineal/mitochondrial DNA is undeniably Zapotec, going back tens of thousands of years. I'm really proud of that connection, but I have no cultural ties to that heritage. I was born and raised in the U.S. and don't know anything more about Oaxaca than what I read on the internet.

So I'm not going to say "I'm a Zapotec Indian" but I can say "I come from Zapotec Indians." That avoids the problematic concept of being a % of a culture.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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To all those who still want to pound on Warren for her family history that turned out to be legend-- [View all] Hekate Oct 2019 OP

Thank you, Hekate. sheshe2 Oct 2019 #1

Thanks back atcha, She Hekate Oct 2019 #36

💕 sheshe2 Oct 2019 #55

for me your final point is the most important. not just trump, i see democrats using republicans Lib 4 Life Oct 2019 #2

This is a good post. My great-great grandmother Cassandra was supposed to be PatrickforO Oct 2019 #3

Good post. As for the Pocahontas thing - DURHAM D Oct 2019 #8

My uncle told me that he was 1/4 Cherokee and I was 1/8th. demigoddess Oct 2019 #20

How many generations ago did her ancestors even come here? AdamGG Oct 2019 #28

Nah, cause if you look at a generation as being around 20 years, PatrickforO Oct 2019 #38

It's definitely possible, it's just that a few generations back puts me at Ellis Island AdamGG Oct 2019 #61

Not sure how you figure. I can trace my family back to the 1600s in Europe. PatrickforO Oct 2019 #64

If you even go back 4 generations... MoonchildCA Oct 2019 #60

This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Oct 2019 #66

There sure are a lot of Irish, too. Every March 17th. blm Oct 2019 #4

You must mean Olaf Drumpf. keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #11

Her parents told her that her great great great grandmother Eric J in MN Oct 2019 #5

Uh huh Hekate Oct 2019 #7

So? nt DURHAM D Oct 2019 #9

yup, very stupid Skittles Oct 2019 #15

For the sake of being self-righteous, I'd pretend it's relevant as well. LanternWaste Oct 2019 #69

Is that a line from a movie? NT Eric J in MN Oct 2019 #73

Happy 57,000th post. guillaumeb Oct 2019 #6

Thank you Hekate Oct 2019 #40

Here's The Trump Family History (Bookmark This For Next Time Pocahontas Comes Up) DrFunkenstein Oct 2019 #10

Grandson Mme. Defarge Oct 2019 #18

I want his entire clan of grifters broken down so far they have to go back to the ancestral Yukon... Hekate Oct 2019 #41

I lived in Oklahoma for 20+ years catrose Oct 2019 #12

Interesting. I've heard similar views from other Oklahoma residents. blm Oct 2019 #14

Absolutely agree, Hekate! peggysue2 Oct 2019 #13

Love it about the Neanderthal strain! My mom the genealogist & the entire rest of the family... Hekate Oct 2019 #32

Still makes me laugh peggysue2 Oct 2019 #34

Hey, watch it. I'm one of those Neanderthals too. nolabear Oct 2019 #53

It's just an excuse for racism... Steven Maurer Oct 2019 #16

Bien dit, ma belle! Mme. Defarge Oct 2019 #17

Thank you, too Hekate Oct 2019 #42

Congrats on 57,000! And a hearty agreement with your post! KnR. Beartracks Oct 2019 #19

Thanks! Hekate Oct 2019 #43

When DNA tests are mentioned in relation to Native American ancestory it makes me cringe a bit Major Nikon Oct 2019 #21

It's a complicated relationship Boomer Oct 2019 #23

I was born during WWII. iows - I am old. DURHAM D Oct 2019 #24

My maternal grandmother would never admit to being Native American Major Nikon Oct 2019 #44

You make many good points here. And another is that even siblings, other than identical twins, pnwmom Oct 2019 #22

There's a lot going on here. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2019 #25

We share a home state BannonsLiver Oct 2019 #26

Not as simple as people think catchnrelease Oct 2019 #27

My daughter's significant other has a Hispanic name, dark eyes, and black hair. Deeply tanned.... Hekate Oct 2019 #39

both a son and a daughter of mine did 23, as did i. mopinko Oct 2019 #50

All my life I was told I had a Chickasaw great grandmother. rickyhall Oct 2019 #29

Obama's mother is white but Trump knows he was born in Kenya IronLionZion Oct 2019 #30

We always thought my grandfather was part Native American. Snarkoleptic Oct 2019 #31

My ancestor, Susie Redman, was said to be Cherokee. Lunabell Oct 2019 #33

Same here. OldRed2450 Oct 2019 #45

Except her family history wasn't legend Bradshaw3 Oct 2019 #35

Yep -- and did you see the thread in this forum today with poster after poster going after her... Hekate Oct 2019 #37

Trump's "Swedish" Heritage Wasn't Legend - It Was A LIE DrFunkenstein Oct 2019 #49

Indigenous Peoples is better term HockeyMom Oct 2019 #46

Native American Heritage--Im an anthrpolpgist UncleNoel Oct 2019 #47

Is someone doing that here? cwydro Oct 2019 #48

Several someones, ranging from "concerned" to "shocked," & it persists. Irks me every time... Hekate Oct 2019 #57

Thanks! I'll pay more attention. cwydro Oct 2019 #58

The same thing happened to my DIL was shocked at the results. dewsgirl Oct 2019 #51

Thank you, Hekate! BlueMTexpat Oct 2019 #52

Nothing "turned out to be legend" jcgoldie Oct 2019 #54

There are dancers in the dance nitpicker Oct 2019 #56

Hekate, even halfway principled people never bought into this Hortensis Oct 2019 #59

I recall the DNA proved Warren correct treestar Oct 2019 #62

Yes. But Trump's slurs & lies entered the public sphere, & now we've got people ... Hekate Oct 2019 #63

And it's aggravating that the Dotard treestar Oct 2019 #72

This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Oct 2019 #65

I'll admit that I was among those who were annoyed ecstatic Oct 2019 #67

Yes, it's one thing to say that you have a certain heritage, hughee99 Oct 2019 #68

"stop letting goddammed Trump set the goddam narrative about our candidates. Just stop it." TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #70

Who exactly is "pounding" brooklynite Oct 2019 #71

Several threads featuring Warren, given enough time several posters show up with everything from Hekate Oct 2019 #74