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Uncle Joe

(65,319 posts)
Wed Oct 9, 2019, 10:48 AM Oct 2019

The pundit class continues to misunderstand Bernie Sanders - and it shows [View all]



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In part, the media underestimates Bernie because it can’t understand Bernie. The new ad quotes CNN’s Nia-Malika Henderson saying it’s “really hard to imagine who the Bernie Sanders voter is at this point”. And it’s true: if you are, like Henderson, a Yale graduate living in Washington DC, or you are, like the New York Times’ Sydney Ember, a former financial analyst for an investment bank, the source of Bernie’s appeal must be mystifying. That’s because Sanders returns again and again to issues that are of little interest to the political media, like environmental policy, social welfare, and education.

Consider MSNBC. Combing through their home page a few days ago, I found that nearly every story was about Trump, Ukraine and impeachment. The one headline about climate change, an issue so important that it should be dominating every day’s deadlines, was “Watch London climate change protest involving 1,800 liters of fake blood go horribly wrong,” hardly a substantive discussion of science or policy.

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If you see MSNBC as “the left” and Fox as “the right”, then Bernie Sanders must be some strange aberration that doesn’t make sense. In fact, he’s just a person with a well-refined sense of what matters and what doesn’t. Sanders has been accused of mirroring Donald Trump in his scathing attacks on the media. But while Trump’s objection to the media is that they spend too much time exposing his crimes and lies, Sanders’ objection is that they don’t elevate the voices of ordinary people and they don’t inform the public about the most important issues.

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The reason the media doesn’t understand Sanders, then, is in part that they do not understand the problems he is speaking about or why they matter. To cover him fairly would require them to re-examine their entire values and priorities. And that wouldn’t be good for ratings.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/oct/08/the-pundit-class-continues-to-misunderstand-bernie-sanders-and-it-shows



This is a good read.
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The pundit class continues to misunderstand Bernie Sanders - and it shows: George II Oct 2019 #1
At this point it seems pretty obvious that Sanders and crew don't understand the media. TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #2
Indeed. (nt) ehrnst Oct 2019 #3
This +1 LongtimeAZDem Oct 2019 #58
If you're running for office it's up to you to make yourself understood. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2019 #4
Climate change, decades of stagnant wages, our high cost of health care, U.S. childhood poverty, Uncle Joe Oct 2019 #7
Of course, and we're aware of those things because the media report them, The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2019 #8
What percentage of total airtime time do you believe Uncle Joe Oct 2019 #9
I don't count the minutes, but since I know about these things The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2019 #12
... sheshe2 Oct 2019 #34
I doubt you'll give us your own objective analysis of that question. LanternWaste Oct 2019 #14
Media Matters just on the issue of climate change Uncle Joe Oct 2019 #16
What percent... sheshe2 Oct 2019 #30
What percent... Uncle Joe Oct 2019 #31
Why bring Hillary up? sheshe2 Oct 2019 #32
It pertained to my unanswered question Uncle Joe Oct 2019 #33
No. Sorry. sheshe2 Oct 2019 #35
The OP and multiple posts Uncle Joe Oct 2019 #37
You changed the topic from Bernie to Hillary. sheshe2 Oct 2019 #38
You changed the topic from this Uncle Joe Oct 2019 #43
You changed the topics. sheshe2 Oct 2019 #46
I'm not Uncle Joe Oct 2019 #47
P.S. Uncle Joe Oct 2019 #45
Hill handled it like a pro. sheshe2 Oct 2019 #48
He Did Name A Couple Of Post Offices Me. Oct 2019 #56
This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Oct 2019 #25
Obviously Bernie has made himself understood to the people that count, the voters, otherwise vsrazdem Oct 2019 #5
When you get people to make 800+ individual contributions averaging $3.14 you're going to have.... George II Oct 2019 #21
Bernie has over 1 million individual donors. The most individual donors or any candidate. vsrazdem Oct 2019 #23
So what. His campaign has been slowly sinking for the last 6 months. comradebillyboy Oct 2019 #51
Agree, votes count. vsrazdem Oct 2019 #57
I think the corporate media understands Bernie very well. jalan48 Oct 2019 #6
I actually believe they do as well jalan. Uncle Joe Oct 2019 #10
For elites living in a bubble things aren't so bad. jalan48 Oct 2019 #11
K&R for visibility. nt tblue37 Oct 2019 #13
I s'pose that's one way to justify a steady downward trend in the polls. LanternWaste Oct 2019 #15
And A Steadily Meteoric Rise In Fundraising corbettkroehler Oct 2019 #17
The recent decline is pretty clear without the need to "slant" anything. TwilightZone Oct 2019 #18
Inasmuch as 76% of his contributions are "unitemized", how do we really know where... George II Oct 2019 #24
Nice Try At Deflecting corbettkroehler Oct 2019 #50
He's only been in the Senate for 12 years. George II Oct 2019 #54
I Meant "Sitting Member Of Congress" - Care To Dispute The Other Arithmetic? corbettkroehler Oct 2019 #61
Cute ploy, but it's not going to work. George II Oct 2019 #62
Neither Is Your Insistence That Sanders' Support Has Waned corbettkroehler Oct 2019 #63
Sanders isn't even close to being one of the longest serving Senators obamanut2012 Oct 2019 #55
Years In Congress Plus Avoidance Of Ethics Complaints (And I Mentioned "Sitting") corbettkroehler Oct 2019 #60
Have you ever seen this? George II Oct 2019 #64
Since the reply deadline has passed without a maelstrom, I'm sure all is well corbettkroehler Oct 2019 #65
Roseanne Roseannadanna: "It's always something." George II Oct 2019 #22
I miss her. sheshe2 Oct 2019 #36
She was one of a kind. Good job finding that gif, I was looking for one like that, couldn't find it George II Oct 2019 #40
She was pricless. sheshe2 Oct 2019 #42
Everyone misunderstands poor wittle BS PhoenixDem Oct 2019 #19
It's his campaign's job to make him understood. TwilightZone Oct 2019 #20
Exactly. I don't see any of the other candidates whining about The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2019 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Oct 2019 #27
I'm beginning to think that not even his presidential ambitions, but another Gilda Radner.... George II Oct 2019 #41
Does the pundit class understand anything other than punditry. .. no. Kurt V. Oct 2019 #28
The pundit class specializes in drama and this gives sociopaths like Trump an inherent advantage Uncle Joe Oct 2019 #29
That was double-plus good. Newest Reality Oct 2019 #53
Voters seem to having trouble connecting as well. NT Happy Hoosier Oct 2019 #39
No they don't. Perhaps BS and his campaign "class"* misunderstand the way ALL campaigns are covered? George II Oct 2019 #44
Calling the media elites without using the actual word. betsuni Oct 2019 #49
Perhaps they understand him all too well? beachbumbob Oct 2019 #52
Sanders is like a left wing Spiro Agnew LongtimeAZDem Oct 2019 #59
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